Bartolomew Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) The move Thief:I´ll just say the basics. For more information about this move check this: http://bulbapedia.bu...ki/Thief_(move).Thief inflicts damage and steals the target's held item if it is holding any. If the target is not holding an item or the user is already holding an item, Thief only inflicts damage and will not be able to steal an item.TM for Thief, to be exact TM46 it is only obtainable in Mt.Moon (Go down through the second stairs. In that room go down the stairs again. There u will see one Team Rocket Grunt. Defeat him and head toward the only item on floor. That is TM46). The move Covet:Again only the basics. For more information about this move check this: http://bulbapedia.bu....net/wiki/Covet .Covet inflicts damage and steals the target's hold item if it is holding any. If the target is not holding an item or the user is already holding an item, Covet only inflicts damage and will not be able to steal an item. Thief and Covet changes from update 14/10/2013: (PvE) THIEF/COVET will now have a chance to break the item if the caster of THIEF/COVET and wild encounters' level difference is too high:<=5: 100% chance to successfully grab item 6: 85% chance to successfully grab item 7: 60% chance to successfully grab item 8: 45% chance to successfully grab item 9: 30% chance to successfully grab item >=10: 20% chance to successfully grab item Which means it got nerfed a little. To get it simple, if difference of your Pokemon and wild Pokemon less or is less or equall of 5 levels it will steal item without miss (Example: you try to use thief with Meowth lvl 20 on lvl 20 Shuckle u will get item 100%). But if difference is more then 5 level your chances of getting item are smaller (Example: you try to use thief with Meowth lvl 100 on lvl 20 Shuckle and you wont get item for sure, only 20% of time). Though its not all bad. You will get notification if wild pokemon is holding item and you were unable to steal it due to level difference. Differences between Thief and Covet:Thief Dark type move TM46 60 base power 25 PP (30 PP after one PP UP, 35PP after two PP UPs and 40 PP after three PP UPs or one PP Max) Physical move 100% Accuarcy affect all Pokemon 155 Pokemon can learn it by TM in this state of game 3 Pokemon can learn it naturally in this state of game 1 Pokemon can learn it by its pre-evolve in this state of game Covet Normal type move no TM 40 base power 25 PP (30 PP after one PP UP, 35PP after two PP UPs and 40 PP after three PP UPs or one PP Max) Physical move 100% Accuarcy do not affect Ghost Pokemon 7 Pokemon can learn it naturally in this state of game 1 Pokemon can learn it by its pre-evolve in this state of game 59 Pokemon can learn it by breeding So its your own choice which move u will choose. As of 19/08/2014 update Thief got buff from 40 base power to 60 base power and increased PP from 10 to 25. Covet got decreased PP from 40 to 25.Wild Held Items:These are all items that are available with 5% rarity (with the best places to get them): Silver Powder on Butterfree. [Pattern Bush at night - 16% encounter rate] Poison Barb on Beedrill. [Pattern Bush at night - 10% encounter rate]Sitrus Berry on Raticate. [Pokemon Mansion - 30% encounter rate]Sharp Beak on Fearow. [Mt. Ember (outside) - 25% encounter rate]Poison Barb on Arbok. [Victory Road or Route 23 - 2.5% encounter rate]Light Ball on Pikachu. [Power Plant - 25% encounter rate]Soft Sand on Sandslash. [Route 23 - 2.5% encounter rate]Moon Stone on Clefairy. [Mt. Moon B2F - 6% encounter rate]Big Mushroom on Parasect. [Cerulean Cave 1F - 25% encounter rate]Silver Powder on Venomoth. [berry Forest - 5% encounter rate]Nugget on Meowth. [Route 7 - 40% encounter rate]King´s Rock on Poliwhirl. [Routes 22 - (fishing with Super Rod) - 40% encounter rate]Twisted Spoon on Abra. [Routes 24 - 15% encounter rate]Twisted Spoon on Kadabra. [Cerulean Cave B1F - 25% encounter rate]Focus Band on Machoke. [Mt. Ember Summit Path 2F - 20% encounter rate] Claw Fossil on Geodude. [Route 114 (rock smash) - 100% encounter rate] Root Fossil on Geodude. [Route 114 (rock smash) - 100% encounter rate] Everstone on Graveler. [Lilycove City (rock smash) - 100% encounter rate]Hard Stone on Graveler. [Mt. Ember Summit Path 2F (rock smash) - 35% encounter rate]King´s Rock on Slowbro. [seafoam Island BF4 - 7.5% encounter rate]Metal Coat on Magnemite. [Power Plant - 30% encounter rate]Magnet on Magneton. [Cerulean Cave 1F - 20% encounter rate] Stick on Farfetch´d. [Route 12 (swarm) - 50% encounter rate] Never Melt Ice on Dewgong. [seafoam Islands BF4 - 10% encounter rate] Spell Tag on Haunter. [Lost Cave - 30% encounter rate]Hard Stone on Onix. [Victory Road - 30% encounter rate]Thick Club on Cubone. [Pokemon Tower 7F - 10% encounter rate]Thick Club on Marowak. [seavault Canyon - 10% encounter rate]Lucky Egg on Chansey.* [Kanto Safari Zone Area 2 - 4% encounter rate]Metal Powder on Ditto. [Cerulean Cave B1F - 25% encounter rate]Dragon Scale on Dratini.* [Kanto Safari Zone Area 1 (fishing with Super Rod) - 15% encounter rate]Dragon Fang on Dragonair.* [Kanto Safari Zone Area 1 (fishing with Super Rod) - 1% encounter rate]Oran Berry on Sentret. [Canyon Entrance - 30% encounter rate] Yellow Shard on Chinchou. [Route 10 at night (fishing with Super Rod) - 40% encounter rate]Spell Tag on Misdreavus. [Lost Cave (room with items) - 10% encounter rate]Persim Berry on Girafarig. [Hoenn Safari Zone Area 1 - 20% encounter rate] Sitrus Berry on Teddiursa. [Alternate Cave (Cycles 1,2,5) - 9% encounter rate] Sitrus Berry on Ursaring. [Victory Road (swarm) - 50% encounter rate] Red Shard on Corsola. [Ever Grande City (fishing with Super Rod) - 15% encounter rate]Sharp Beak on Skarmory. [seavault Canyon - 2.5% encounter rate]Pecha Berry on Poochyena. [Route 103 - 40% encounter rate] Pecha Berry on Mightyena. [Route 120 at night - 10% encounter rate]Oran Berry on Zigzagoon. [Route 103 - 50% encounter rate] Sitrus Berry on Linoone. [Route 119 - 30% encounter rate] Silver Powder on Beautifly. [Pattern Bush at night - 15% encounter rate] Silver Powder on Masquerain. [berry Forest at night - 5% encounter rate] Chesto Berry on Whismur. [Rusturf Tunnel - 100% encounter rate] Chesto Berry on Loudred. [Victory Road 1F - 10% encounter rate] King´s Rock on Hariyama. [Victory Road B1F - 35% encounter rate] Leppa Berry on Skitty. [Route 116 - 2% encounter rate]Hard Stone on Aron. [Granite Cave B1F - 40% encounter rate] Hard Stone on Lairon. [Victory Road B1F - 18.33% encounter rate]Poison Barb on Roselia. [Route 117 - 20% encounter rate] Big Pearl on Gulpin. [Route 110 - 15% encounter rate]Deep Sea Tooth on Carvanha.** [not available anymore]Chesto Berry on Spinda. [Route 113 - 70% encounter rate] Soft Sand on Trapinch. [Route 111 - 35% encounter rate]Poison Barb on Cacnea. [Route 111 - 15.33% encounter rate] Moon Stone on Lunatone. [Meteor Falls 1F 2R - 23.33% encounter rate] Sun Stone on Solrock. [Meteor Falls 1F 2R - 23.33% encounter rate] Perism Berry on Kecleon. [Route 118 - 1% encounter rate]Spell Tag on Shuppet. [Mt. Pyre 1F - 66.67% encounter rate] Spell Tag on Banette. [sky Pillar 1F - 10% encounter rate]Spell Tag on Duskull. [Mt. Pyre 1F - 33.33% encounter rate] Spell Tag on Dusclops. [sky Pillar 1F - 5% encounter rate] Blue Shard on Clamperl. [Route 124 (dive) - 65% encounter rate] Green Shard on Relicanth. [Route 124 (dive) - 5% encounter rate]Dragon Scale on Bagon. [Meteor Falls B1F 2R - 25% encounter rate] Metal Coat on Beldum. [Meteor Falls Steven´s Cave - 10% encounter rate] These are all items that are available with 6% rarity (with the best places to get them): Big Pearl on Shellder. [Pallet Town (fishing with Super Rod) - 20% encounter rate] Star Piece on Staryu. [Pallet Town (fishing with Super Rod) - 20% encounter rate] These are all items that are available with 10% rarity (with the best places to get them): Big Mushroom on Paras. [Mt. Moon B1F - 100% encounter rate] Stardust on Staryu. [Pallet Town (fishing with Super Rod) - 20% encounter rate] These are all items that are available with 12% rarity (with the best places to get them): Pearl on Shellder. [Pallet Town (fishing with Super Rod) - 20% encounter rate] These are all items that are available with 20% rarity (with the best places to get them): Tiny Mushroom on Paras. [Mt. Moon B1F - 100% encounter rate] These are all items that are available with 50% rarity (with the best places to get them):Oran Berry on Raticate. [Pokemon Mansion - 30% encounter rate]Rawst Berry on Vulpix. [Route 8 - 10% encounter rate]Oran Berry on Jigglypuff. [Route 3 - 10% encounter rate]Tiny Mushroom on Parasect. [Cerulean Cave 1F - 25% encounter rate]Rawst Berry on Growlithe. [Route 8 - 10% encounter rate]Aspear Berry on Seel. [seafoam Islands BF3 - 60% encounter rate]Aspear Berry on Dewgong. [seafoam Islands BF4 - 10% encounter rate]Oran Berry on Teddiursa. [Alternate Cave (Cycles 1,2,5) - 9% encounter rate] Oran Berry on Ursaring. [Victory Road (swarm) - 50% encounter rate]Aspear Berry on Swinub. [icefall Cave B1F - 50% encounter rate] Oran Berry on Linoone. [Route 119 - 30% encounter rate] Heart Scale on Luvdisc. [Ever Grande City - 40% encounter rate]Pokemon that will always hold items (100%) (with the best places to get them):Chesto Berry on Snorlax.*** [Route 11 - use PokeFlute on sleeping Snorlax]Berry Juice on Shuckle. [Alternate Cave (Cycles 1,2,5) - 9% encounter rate] Moomoo Milk on Miltank. [Hoenn Safari Zone Area 6 - 5% encounter rate] Rawst Berry on Numel. [Route 112 - 75% encounter rate] Mystic Water on Castform. [Weather Institute - Gift] Note: * = items not obtainable with thief (or covet) because they are in Safari Zone.** = this Pokemon do not have this item anymore.*** = limited encounter with that Pokemon. green = items confirmed by me. italic = percantage of item or encounter rate is not confirmed, it is approximately NPC trainer´s Pokemon held items: As of 14/10/2013 there are NO more NPC trainer´s Pokemon hold items. FAQS AND ANSWERS:I used the move but i did not get item, why?-Probably because your Pokemon is holding item or wild Pokemon was not holding any item, or your thieving Pokemon was higher level then wild Pokemon.Which Pokemon should i teach move too?-Currently there is no difference in which Pokemon have thief.How many times I must attack Pokemon to get item from it?-If wild Pokemon holds item and your Pokemon don´t have held item and difference between your Pokemon and wild Pokemon is 5 levels, you only need to attack once to get it. But if difference is higher then 6 lvls, you might attack few times. If that is the case u will get message that tells you were unable to steal item due to level difference. Then attack few times more and you will get it.Does it notify me if i stole item from Pokemon?-Yes u got message on your battle screen or just check your Pokemon stats by right clicking them. Edited January 18, 2015 by Bartolomew Squall, Skydrill, Venun and 14 others 17 Link to comment
Heavenol Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Nice list. Thanks and great job Bartolomew! Link to comment
Squall Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 This is an excellent post Bartolomew!! B) It's extremely helpful!! ;) Arcaniox 1 Link to comment
Cubes Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 You should add the trainer's pokemon that you can steal from as well. I'm not sure which, but I think on 1 island there's a black belt trainer where you can thief black belts off repeatedly with vs seeker. And of course, the cool trainer with the chansey in victory road. A great idea though =] Link to comment
Bartolomew Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 You missed this?? There are few npc trainers in game which have Pokemon with held item: Crush Girl Shannon (last Trainer on surface of Kindle Road) - Black Belt on her Mankey. And tnx for cool trainers chansey btw. which item does it hold? Ill update then. Link to comment
aengis Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 some berries on elite 4, i dont know if other items, didnt have the chance to try all. Link to comment
Cubes Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 You missed this?? And tnx for cool trainers chansey btw. which item does it hold? Ill update then. Oops lol. The chansey has a 5% chance to hold a lucky egg =3 Link to comment
Heavenol Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Oops lol. The chansey has a 5% chance to hold a lucky egg =3 Really? I think we just found our next suicide farming NPC EDIT: Maybe that explains all the ridicolous new trade threads where they offer tons of lucky eggs. Welp, maybe the staff should change that NPC, because that takes away all the value of the lucky egg completely. Link to comment
Bartolomew Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Updated with more trainers on Island 1. Link to comment
aengis Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 what trainer has a chansey? Link to comment
Bartolomew Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Really? I think we just found our next suicide farming NPC EDIT: Maybe that explains all the ridicolous new trade threads where they offer tons of lucky eggs. Welp, maybe the staff should change that NPC, because that takes away all the value of the lucky egg completely. Dont know if true is that trainer is holding egg. Can someone else confirm this?? Link to comment
LabMonkey Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 You should also add that Dewgongs have a chance to hold an aspear berry too. Which is really annoying when you're looking for NeverMeltIce. Link to comment
Diaple Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I just fight vs cool trainer whom has the chansey, nothing got. Anyway, i suicide, so i'll try again and this time i'll beat her. Link to comment
badgerjesus Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Isn't it slowBRO that has the King's Rock? Link to comment
MrMasonMan Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 You're kidding right Cubes? This would explain why they are hurrying out an update. Why didn't you tell me earlier ;_; Also I'm pretty sure Covet is working which does the same thing as thief but is normal type. And snorlax learns that as a level up move. Link to comment
Bartolomew Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 @LabMonkey This is 5%rarity, ill add others later. @badgerjesus Press ctrl+f and search for Slowbro. With new update there have been confirmed Lucky Egg on that Chansey is not available. Link to comment
Diaple Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Anyone know if they reduced the rate of kings rock in wild poliwhirls and metal coat in magnemites? Cause I fight vs +50 of each and still nothing and in the other hand, i obtain 2 twistedspoon with only 10 abras... Link to comment
Cirno Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Anyone know if they reduced the rate of kings rock in wild poliwhirls and metal coat in magnemites? Cause I fight vs +50 of each and still nothing and in the other hand, i obtain 2 twistedspoon with only 10 abras... Luck and Chance, there's all there is to it. Link to comment
Palpatine Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 which trainer was the one that had the lucky egg btw? Link to comment
Heavenol Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 which trainer was the one that had the lucky egg btw? You are to late. The latest patch fixed it apperantly. Link to comment
Palpatine Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 You are to late. The latest patch fixed it apperantly. shhhhh I havent downloaded that patch Link to comment
MrMasonMan Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 shhhhh I havent downloaded that patch lol it doesn't work like that malzzzy 1 Link to comment
Palpatine Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 lol it doesn't work like that well fuck Robofiend 1 Link to comment
Diaple Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 And pikachu is not having equipped Light balls?? Link to comment
Danzee Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Does it notify you if you have obtained an item? Link to comment
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