GhostTails724 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Since gen 5 TM's have infinite usage, it would be nice to see Kanto and Hoenn adapt this too. Link to comment
0 Matoka Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Infinite TM use is unhealthy for the economy of an MMO, TM's would effectively become worthless as you would only require one of them (and everyone can easily get one of them via story) so no one would buy or sell TMs anymore. I am fairly sure this was deliberately kept to being consumable for these reasons. (same reason why you don't get consumable hold items back after duels vs. players unlike in handhelds, such as Focus Sash, Berries, etc). Dibz, Dazuzi, Johnwaynee and 9 others 10 2 Link to comment
0 Minks Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Still, there's something to this. I've had breeds where the moveset cost me more than the actual mon, and i dont think thats a good thing. Maybe TMs should be cheaper or smth, idk. HermitG 1 Link to comment
0 Acarus Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Minks said: TMs should be cheaper or smth, idk. 10k to 30k is already cheap wdym ? noomuch, Iziksquirel, razimove and 1 other 4 Link to comment
0 GhostTails724 Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Matoka said: Infinite TM use is unhealthy for the economy of an MMO, TM's would effectively become worthless as you would only require one of them (and everyone can easily get one of them via story) so no one would buy or sell TMs anymore. I am fairly sure this was deliberately kept to being consumable for these reasons. (same reason why you don't get consumable hold items back after duels vs. players unlike in handhelds, such as Focus Sash, Berries, etc). Changes such as this really ruin the experience though in my opinion. They should've kept everything relatively the same, the economy is stupid anyway since it's really there just to benefit the devs. They could have made money off of things they actually made instead of making changes to the game itself Link to comment
0 suigin Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 hours ago, GhostTails724 said: Changes such as this really ruin the experience though in my opinion. They should've kept everything relatively the same, the economy is stupid anyway since it's really there just to benefit the devs. They could have made money off of things they actually made instead of making changes to the game itself ??????? Dibz, HumongousNoodle, RealMak and 7 others 7 3 Link to comment
0 Caliginosus Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) Dude, what are you talking about? One facepalm thread after another. What do TMs in the GTL have to do with dev money? They didn't change the game itself, they just decided that the older TM system suits the MMO better. You do understand what an MMO is? There needs to be progress, things to work towards, gated content. This is PokeMMO, not pokemon handhelds in slightly different. You will face many more changes that may seem odd to you but are (most of the time?) done for a reason, probably economy/battle/difficulty balance. Edited April 11, 2019 by Caliginosus Dibz, Toupi, HumongousNoodle and 2 others 5 Link to comment
0 gbwead Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, suigin said: ??????? I think he just meant that devs make a good living selling TMs to players through their NPCs distributors. We probably all dream of having a Pokeyen bank account like theirs to buy luxurious houses, cars and w.e. HumongousNoodle, Takens, Toupi and 4 others 7 Link to comment
0 razimove Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Why pa for pokeballs or anything tbh? Link to comment
0 MightyBoxer Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 tm70 flash and tm94 rocksmash should be made unlimited.They are alredy HM in kanto and hoenn and unlimited used there. Toupi 1 Link to comment
0 Toupi Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 53 minutes ago, MightyBoxer said: tm70 flash and tm94 rocksmash should be made unlimited.They are alredy HM in kanto and hoenn and unlimited used there. The only problem I see with this is, it might be confusing to make exception for just these two. Link to comment
0 YamatoOusama Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, MightyBoxer said: tm70 flash and tm94 rocksmash should be made unlimited.They are alredy HM in kanto and hoenn and unlimited used there. Here's an idea, go to the regions where they're HM's and use the HM? Link to comment
0 Dibz Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Coming next update: Communism? Link to comment
0 Harmonia2Side Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) Now, Unova TMs should be reusable. This is a crucial change made in 5 gen that greatly improved both build and exploration experience. I know this would greatly impact tm economy on the mmo, yet it is an important reflection of power progression over the story progression: the farther you go, the easier it is to build, until everyone reaches a cap. One thing that could be made as a 50/50 solutions is to make bought TMs consumable while the story TMs remained reusable Edited December 21, 2020 by Harmonia2Side Link to comment
0 RealMak Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) I believe that the unconsumable TMs would ruin the market. Plus, Dont forget that its an MMO, which means Massivelely Multiplayer Online. Edited December 21, 2020 by RealMak HumongousNoodle and Luke 2 Link to comment
0 Quakkz Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 wont happen anyways, but well if you wanna play a handheld experience go play an emulator HumongousNoodle, Luke and razimove 3 Link to comment
0 Harmonia2Side Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 9:05 AM, RealMak said: I believe that the unconsumable TMs would ruin the market. Plus, Dont forget that its an MMO, which means Massivelely Multiplayer Online. I see. Guess we can just try and adapt to it, I'll give it a shot and keep playing until getting the hang of managing teams and exploring without infinite tms at my disposal Link to comment
0 Harmonia2Side Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 1:09 PM, Quakkz said: wont happen anyways, but well if you wanna play a handheld experience go play an emulator Well, there's no need to be that rude. But that's actually an important point: pokemmo's objective is not to bring the original console game's experience to online multiplayer; it is to bring to MMO experience to the pokemon games by building on top of the games we already know. It's a different philosophy that leads to different design choices, and thus the differences we see from the original games. So, it's understandable that people expecting the classical handheld experience would be shocked or disappointed (as I was). It's a good thing to make that observation clear in discussions like this one, so people can better understand their frustration and make a conscious choice: "do I want this MMO experience? Or I just wanted the console back with lots of people to play with?" Sorry for the long text people I just had to say that at this point haha Link to comment
0 FC Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 It got 2 votes in 1.5 year. . . . Makes sense Link to comment
0 Rittz Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Why would anyone revive this thread? lmao Link to comment
0 ronarid Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 this one of the limited use of TMs it's another bs just to make virtually impossible to new players to become competitive, like the breeding system, the 4 badges requirement to use the market, the ridicolous level cap on your own pokemons, etc Link to comment
0 razimove Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, ronarid said: this one of the limited use of TMs it's another bs just to make virtually impossible to new players to become competitive, like the breeding system, the 4 badges requirement to use the market, the ridicolous level cap on your own pokemons, etc just quit then. Johnwaynee, Harmonia2Side, RysPicz and 3 others 6 Link to comment
0 ronarid Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 when a better game will exist i will Link to comment
0 Johnwaynee Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 This thread was dug up from the deepest place on earth Link to comment
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Since gen 5 TM's have infinite usage, it would be nice to see Kanto and Hoenn adapt this too.
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