suigin Posted January 14 (edited) I copied this from Smogon lololol This thread's purpose is to provide players with an easy to understand compendium of what each role in the game is and what Pokemon can fulfill that role in order to facilitate teambuilding. Suggestions welcome as this was quite a droning labor and I definitely missed or misplaced some stuff. Hazard setters: Spoiler Rocks: Spikes: Toxic Spikes: Hazard removers: Spoiler Defog: Rapid Spin: Hazard removal punishment: Spoiler Spinblock: Defiant: Dedicated Leads: Spoiler Suicide setter: Momentum gainer: Clerics: Spoiler Aromatherapy/Heal Bell: Healing Wish: Wish: Walls: Spoiler Physical: Special: Mixed walls: Wallbreakers: Spoiler Physical: Special: Mixed: Stallbreakers: Spoiler Taunt based: Setup based: Skill based: Trapping based: Set up sweepers: Spoiler Agility: Belly Drum: Bulk Up: Calm Mind: Charge Beam: Curse: Dragon Dance: Focus Energy: Hone claws: Nasty Plot: Shell Smash: Speed Boost: Swords Dance: Quiver Dance: Work Up: Anti-Setup: Spoiler Haze: Roar/Whirlwind: Encore: Setup-Supporters: Spoiler Dual Screens: Memento: Trappers: Spoiler Arena Trap: Shadow Tag: Magnet Pull: Pursuit: VoltTurn users: Spoiler U-Turn: Volt Switch: Status Inducers: Spoiler Sleep Powder: Spore: Stun Spore: Thunder Wave: Toxic: Will-O-Wisp: Choice Item users: Spoiler Choice Band: Choice Specs: Choice Scarf: Priority users: Spoiler Aqua Jet: Bullet Punch: ExtremeSpeed: Fake Out: Ice Shard: Mach Punch: Prankster: Quick Attack: Shadow Sneak: Sucker Punch: Vacuum Wave: Trick Room abusers: Spoiler Setters: Abusers: Rain abusers: Spoiler Setter: Abusers: Sand abusers: Spoiler Setters: Abusers: Sun abusers: Spoiler Setter: Abusers: Special thanks to @AurumPegasus for helping me correct some embarrassing mistakes. Edited November 13 by suigin 34 3 Imabetheverybest1, NikhilR, MknsZblex and 34 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post
RysPicz Posted January 14 Slap Whimsicott with Encore into anti-setup imo. 3 1 GodofIshean, suigin, Lvkee and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post
OrangeManiac Posted January 14 Skill based stallbreaking is the most accurate thing anywhere ever. Really like the idea of this thread though. 3 1 DeadGorilla, razimove, Tyrone and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post
Kamowanthere Posted January 14 (edited) Lilligant is used as sun sweeper and can use Sleep Powder Also It is Quiver Dance Petal Dance sweeper Edited January 14 by Kamowanthere Share this post Link to post
Winterclaw Posted January 14 (edited) how come aero is special wall? :O Missplaced? Edited January 14 by Winterclaw Share this post Link to post
Bubaili Posted January 14 Quote how come aero is special wall? :O Missplaced? Was about to ask too. I wondered if there was a secret build I never heard about... Anyway good job here, a very useful thread ! Share this post Link to post
MightyBoxer Posted January 14 (edited) Nice guide.Always nice to have some more PvP guides.Especialy newer ones since pvp tactics always change when updates add more pokemons moves items and such. If salamence is a physical wall.Would gyarados also be a physical wall?It has same ability to help physical defense and same hp stats.And almost same defense stats. Gyarados has better spe def but less speed.Or could it be because of moves?Or its type has more threats? Edited January 14 by MightyBoxer 1 Jerryzoo reacted to this Share this post Link to post
OrangeManiac Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Winterclaw said: how come aero is special wall? :O Missplaced? 38 minutes ago, Bubaili said: Was about to ask too. I wondered if there was a secret build I never heard about... Anyway good job here, a very useful thread ! I heard some defensive players use Aero as a special wall. It's a very niche pick and only fits the said specific team I guess but it is used indeed as a Special Wall. 29 minutes ago, MightyBoxer said: Nice guide.Always nice to have some more PvP guides.Especialy newer ones since pvp tactics always change when updates add more pokemons moves items and such. If salamence is a physical wall.Would gyarados also be a physical wall?It has same ability to help physical defense and same hp stats.And almost same defense stats. Gyarados has better spe def but less speed.Or could it be because of moves?Or its type has more threats? Salamence has Roost and that's the reason you can really call it a "wall". After Intimidate, some physical threats simply cannot 2HKO Salamence so Roost will essentially make them useless and force them to switch out. Gyarados has no reliable recovery move - only Rest, which makes its usefulness much more limited. I've actually used max defensive Gyarados as a niche Pokemon and it's actually quite alright - it just doesn't "wall" opponents and quite rather focuses only on Dragon Tailing for hazard chip damage. For the lack of recovery I think "tank" is a better word to describe that, rather than a "wall". But again it goes down to the definitions. 1 MightyBoxer reacted to this Share this post Link to post
Kaitha Posted January 14 Great guide! gg We should make this for every single tier btw 1 Pholo reacted to this Share this post Link to post
Winterclaw Posted January 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, OrangeManiac said: I heard some defensive players use Aero as a special wall. It's a very niche pick and only fits the said specific team I guess but it is used indeed as a Special Wall. I'd like to see that special wall aero set and reason behind it to make one, i mean to wall what pokemon etc. I'm asking this beacuse i want to see how effective she can be as a defensive rather than her usual offensive roles in team. Edited January 14 by Winterclaw 1 OrangeManiac reacted to this Share this post Link to post
RysPicz Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Winterclaw said: I'd like to see that special wall aero set and reason behind it to make one, i mean to wall what pokemon etc. I'm asking this beacuse i want to see how effective she can be as a defensive rather than her usual offensive roles in team. People were using special wall aero set with pressure to deal with Volcarona. Set was Rock Slide/ Sub/ Roost/ Protect I think. Whoever invented that bad mon has probably already stopped from using it, judging from Aero's usage. Share this post Link to post
suigin Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, RysPicz said: People were using special wall aero set with pressure to deal with Volcarona. Set was Rock Slide/ Sub/ Roost/ Protect I think. Whoever invented that bad mon has probably already stopped from using it, judging from Aero's usage. It has a niche at beating Togekiss too but yeah Share this post Link to post
mago1993 Posted January 14 rain abusser if possible u can add a swampert, with waterfall + rain is very nice damage Share this post Link to post
AurumPegasus Posted March 7 11 minutes ago, suigin said: kill me imgur.com Share this post Link to post
tecenetQQ Posted March 21 (edited) Great guide! Edited March 21 by tecenetQQ Share this post Link to post
Maelstrom Posted May 5 I love how it is not limited to OU pokemons only. Thank you for guide! Share this post Link to post
JorgeFirebolt Posted November 12 (edited) @suiginlooks like some pokemon images from the original post won't show up, may you post the names + images? (pd: only happens with mobile version or atleast that's how it looks like to me) Edited November 13 by JorgeFirebolt Just realized only happens with mobile version. 1 suigin reacted to this Share this post Link to post