Popular Post suigin Posted January 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) I copied this from Smogon lololol This thread's purpose is to provide players with an easy to understand compendium of what each role in the game is and what Pokemon can fulfill that role in order to facilitate teambuilding. Suggestions welcome as this was quite a droning labor and I definitely missed or misplaced some stuff. Hazard setters: Spoiler Rocks: Aerodactyl Archeops Bisharp Blissey Bronzong Chansey Dugtrio Empoleon Excadrill Ferrothorn Forretress Garchomp Gigalith Gligar GliscorGolurk Hippowdon Infernape Kabutops Krookodile Mamoswine Metagross Nidoking Nidoqueen Skarmory Smeargle Swampert Torkoal Tyranitar Spikes: Cloyster Ferrothorn Forretress Froslass Heracross Roserade Skarmory Smeargle Toxic Spikes: Cloyster Cofagrigus ForretressNidokingNidoqueen Roserade Smeargle Tentacruel Hazard removers: Spoiler Defog: Crobat Empoleon Flygon Gligar Gliscor Hydreigon Mandibuzz Mantine Pelipper Rotom Salamence Scizor Sigilyph Skarmory Staraptor Whimsicott Rapid Spin: Cloyster Excadrill Kabutops Starmie Tentacruel Torkoal Hazard removal punishment: Spoiler Spinblock: Chandelure Cofagrigus Froslass Gengar Golurk Jellicent Defiant: Bisharp Dedicated Leads: Spoiler Suicide setter: Aerodactyl Archeops Cloyster Electrode Froslass Garchomp Infernape Mamoswine Nidoking Serperior Skarmory Smeargle Momentum gainer: Crobat Hydreigon Infernape Jolteon Magnezone Mienshao Pelipper Rotom Staraptor Zoroark Clerics: Spoiler Aromatherapy/Heal Bell:Blissey Chansey Clefable Lanturn Togekiss Umbreon Vaporeon Healing Wish:Chansey Clefable Wish:Chansey Clefable Togekiss Umbreon Vaporeon Walls: Spoiler Physical:Cofagrigus Forretress Gastrodon Gligar Gliscor Hippowdon Pelipper Reuniclus Rotom Salamence Skarmory Slowbro Swampert Special: Aerodactyl Blissey Chansey Empoleon Rotom Snorlax Tentacruel Tyranitar Umbreon Mixed walls: Bronzong Gastrodon Gigalith Hippowdon Ferrothorn Mantine Mandibuzz Milotic Porygon2 Rotom Togekiss Vaporeon Wallbreakers: Spoiler Physical:Arcanine Breloom Cloyster Conkeldurr Darmanitan Dragonite Excadrill Garchomp Gliscor Haxorus Heracross Infernape Lucario Mamoswine Mienshao Scizor Staraptor Toxicroak Tyranitar Special:Chandelure GengarHydreigonInfernape Kingdra Lucario Porygon-Z Reuniclus Togekiss Mixed: Dragonite Eelektross Hydreigon Infernape Salamence Stallbreakers: Spoiler Taunt based:Crobat Gengar Gyarados Haxorus Hydreigon Infernape Mandibuzz Setup based:Chandelure Garchomp Gengar Infernape Lucario Porygon-Z Reuniclus Togekiss Venomoth Volcarona Skill based:Togekiss Trapping based:Dugtrio Trapinch Set up sweepers: Spoiler Agility:Empoleon Gliscor Kingdra Lucario Magnezone Metagross Rampardos Belly Drum:Azumarill Linoone Bulk Up:Breloom Conkeldurr Gallade Scrafty Calm Mind:Chandelure Reuniclus Slowbro Charge Beam: Magnezone Curse:Snorlax Dragon Dance:Dragonite Gyarados Haxorus Hydreigon Scrafty Salamence Tyranitar Focus Energy:Kingdra Salamence Hone claws:DurantGarchomp Nasty Plot:Cofagrigus Gengar Hydreigon Infernape Lucario Mismagius Porygon-Z Rotom Togekiss Toxicroak Zoroark Shell Smash:Cloyster Blastoise Speed Boost: Yanmega Swords Dance:Bisharp Breloom Excadrill Gallade Gliscor Haxorus Heracross Infernape Kabutops Lucario Mienshao Scizor Toxicroak Zoroark Weavile Quiver Dance:Venomoth Volcarona Work Up:Hydreigon Anti-Setup: Spoiler Haze: Cofagrigus Mantine Milotic Quagsire Tentacruel Vaporeon Roar/Whirlwind:Empoleon Hippowdon Mandibuzz Skarmory Swampert Encore: Whimsicott Wobbufett Setup-Supporters: Spoiler Dual Screens: Blissey Bronzong Chansey Electrode Jolteon Metagross Rotom Serperior Starmie Memento: Chandelure Dugtrio Smeargle Whimsicott Trappers: Spoiler Arena Trap:Dugtrio Trapinch Shadow Tag:Wobbuffet Magnet Pull:Magnezone Pursuit:Bisharp Krookodile Heracross Metagross Scizor Snorlax Staraptor Tyranitar Weavile Momentum Gainers: Spoiler U-Turn:Crobat Darmanitan Flygon Gligar Gliscor Infernape Mienshao Hydreigon Scizor Staraptor Zoroark Volt Switch:Forretress Jolteon Lanturn Magnezone Rotom Teleport:Blissey Chansey Clefable Porygon2 Slowbro Baton Pass:Shedinja Umbreon Status Inducers: Spoiler Sleep Powder:Roserade Venomoth Venusaur Spore:Breloom Smeargle Stun Spore:Whimsicott Thunder Wave:Blissey Chansey Ferrothorn Gyarados Hydreigon Porygon2 Reuniclus Rotom Slowbro Togekiss Toxic:Blissey Chandelure Chansey Cofagrigus Gastrodon Gligar Gliscor Hippowdon Milotic Mandibuzz MantinePorygon2 Quagsire Reuniclus Salamence Slowbro Swampert Tentacruel Toxicroak Umbreon Will-O-Wisp:Arcanine Cofagrigus Chandelure Gengar Jellicent Rotom Choice Item users: Spoiler Choice Band:Arcanine Azumarill Dragonite Crobat Flygon Ferrothorn Haxorus Heracross Infernape Mamoswine Metagross Rampardos Salamence Scizor Snorlax Staraptor Tyranitar Weavile Choice Specs:Gengar Chandelure Hydreigon Jolteon Kingdra Magnezone Pelipper Porygon-Z Reuniclus Starmie Typhlosion Yanmega Choice Scarf:Cloyster Chandelure Darmanitan Flygon Garchomp Gengar Haxorus Heracross Hydreigon Infernape Magnezone Mamoswine Mienshao Pelipper Porygon-Z Salamence Staraptor Starmie Togekiss Toxicroak Tyranitar Priority users: Spoiler Aqua Jet:Azumarill Dragonite Empoleon Kabutops Bullet Punch: Lucario Medicham Metagross Scizor Toxicroak ExtremeSpeed: Arcanine Dragonite Linoone Lucario Fake Out:Infernape Medicham Mienshao Weavile Ice Shard:Cloyster Mamoswine Weavile Mach Punch:Breloom Conkeldurr Infernape Prankster:Whimsicott Quick Attack:Scizor Staraptor Shadow Sneak:Gallade Sucker Punch:Bisharp Dugtrio Toxicroak Vacuum Wave:Lucario Toxicroak Trick Room abusers: Spoiler Setters:Bronzong Cofagrigus Jellicent Porygon2 Reuniclus Slowbro Slowking Abusers:Azumarill Cofagrigus Conkeldurr Eelektross Escavalier Ferrothorn Gigalith Machamp Rhyperior Torkoal Ursaring Rain abusers: Spoiler Setter:Pelipper Abusers:Azumarill Dragonite Ferrothorn Jolteon Kabutops Kingdra Ludicolo Scizor Toxicroak Sand abusers: Spoiler Setters: Gigalith Hippowdon Tyranitar Abusers: Excadrill Garchomp Gliscor Mandibuzz Reuniclus Rhyperior Sigilyph Stoutland Sun abusers: Spoiler Setter:Torkoal Abusers: Arcanine Chandelure Darmanitan Exeggutor Infernape Typhlosion Victreebel Vileplume Volcarona Special thanks to @AurumPegasus for helping me correct some embarrassing mistakes. Back up in case the images break again Edited October 1 by suigin FlaFlaPT, Unnefable, DiosSlurpuff and 49 others 45 7 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Slap Whimsicott with Encore into anti-setup imo. GodofIshean, suigin, Lvkee and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Skill based stallbreaking is the most accurate thing anywhere ever. Really like the idea of this thread though. Tyrone, suigin, BrokenJoker and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment
Ventus Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 hazard setters toxic spikes you forgot weezing lokpmn 1 Link to comment
Kamowanthere Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Lilligant is used as sun sweeper and can use Sleep Powder Also It is Quiver Dance Petal Dance sweeper Edited January 14, 2019 by Kamowanthere Link to comment
Winterclaw Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) how come aero is special wall? :O Missplaced? Edited January 14, 2019 by Winterclaw Link to comment
Bubaili Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Quote how come aero is special wall? :O Missplaced? Was about to ask too. I wondered if there was a secret build I never heard about... Anyway good job here, a very useful thread ! Link to comment
MightyBoxer Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Nice guide.Always nice to have some more PvP guides.Especialy newer ones since pvp tactics always change when updates add more pokemons moves items and such. If salamence is a physical wall.Would gyarados also be a physical wall?It has same ability to help physical defense and same hp stats.And almost same defense stats. Gyarados has better spe def but less speed.Or could it be because of moves?Or its type has more threats? Edited January 14, 2019 by MightyBoxer Jerryzoo 1 Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Winterclaw said: how come aero is special wall? :O Missplaced? 38 minutes ago, Bubaili said: Was about to ask too. I wondered if there was a secret build I never heard about... Anyway good job here, a very useful thread ! I heard some defensive players use Aero as a special wall. It's a very niche pick and only fits the said specific team I guess but it is used indeed as a Special Wall. 29 minutes ago, MightyBoxer said: Nice guide.Always nice to have some more PvP guides.Especialy newer ones since pvp tactics always change when updates add more pokemons moves items and such. If salamence is a physical wall.Would gyarados also be a physical wall?It has same ability to help physical defense and same hp stats.And almost same defense stats. Gyarados has better spe def but less speed.Or could it be because of moves?Or its type has more threats? Salamence has Roost and that's the reason you can really call it a "wall". After Intimidate, some physical threats simply cannot 2HKO Salamence so Roost will essentially make them useless and force them to switch out. Gyarados has no reliable recovery move - only Rest, which makes its usefulness much more limited. I've actually used max defensive Gyarados as a niche Pokemon and it's actually quite alright - it just doesn't "wall" opponents and quite rather focuses only on Dragon Tailing for hazard chip damage. For the lack of recovery I think "tank" is a better word to describe that, rather than a "wall". But again it goes down to the definitions. HumongousNoodle and MightyBoxer 2 Link to comment
Kaitha Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Great guide! gg We should make this for every single tier btw Pholo 1 Link to comment
Winterclaw Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, OrangeManiac said: I heard some defensive players use Aero as a special wall. It's a very niche pick and only fits the said specific team I guess but it is used indeed as a Special Wall. I'd like to see that special wall aero set and reason behind it to make one, i mean to wall what pokemon etc. I'm asking this beacuse i want to see how effective she can be as a defensive rather than her usual offensive roles in team. Edited January 14, 2019 by Winterclaw OrangeManiac 1 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Winterclaw said: I'd like to see that special wall aero set and reason behind it to make one, i mean to wall what pokemon etc. I'm asking this beacuse i want to see how effective she can be as a defensive rather than her usual offensive roles in team. People were using special wall aero set with pressure to deal with Volcarona. Set was Rock Slide/ Sub/ Roost/ Protect I think. Whoever invented that bad mon has probably already stopped from using it, judging from Aero's usage. Link to comment
suigin Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, RysPicz said: People were using special wall aero set with pressure to deal with Volcarona. Set was Rock Slide/ Sub/ Roost/ Protect I think. Whoever invented that bad mon has probably already stopped from using it, judging from Aero's usage. It has a niche at beating Togekiss too but yeah Link to comment
mago1993 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 rain abusser if possible u can add a swampert, with waterfall + rain is very nice damage JorgeFirebolt 1 Link to comment
AurumPegasus Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, suigin said: kill me imgur.com Link to comment
tecenetQQ Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Great guide! Edited March 21, 2019 by tecenetQQ Link to comment
Maelstrom Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I love how it is not limited to OU pokemons only. Thank you for guide! JorgeFirebolt 1 Link to comment
JorgeFirebolt Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) @suiginlooks like some pokemon images from the original post won't show up, may you post the names + images? (pd: only happens with mobile version or atleast that's how it looks like to me) Edited November 13, 2019 by JorgeFirebolt Just realized only happens with mobile version. suigin 1 Link to comment
JorgeFirebolt Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Empoleon was more used as an special wall in Gen 5. May you add empoleon as an special wall too? Link to comment
suigin Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, JorgeFirebolt said: Empoleon was more used as an special wall in Gen 5. May you add empoleon as an special wall too? Typing kinda allowed it to do both but sure why not. JorgeFirebolt 1 Link to comment
NonoPetitRobot Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 @suigin You forgot Ferrothorn as a Twave user :x suigin 1 Link to comment
MavrosHL Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 i think u forgot as a rain abuser: Tentacruel Link to comment
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