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Knock off : 20 -> 65 power


Soul

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Most moves have their gen 6-7 damage and accuracy.

I can definitely understand the need to keep outrage at 90 instead of 120,

but knock off seems to be a bit lackluster with 20 power (the effect is still amazing)

 

Weavile probably benefits the most of this and can also threaten Reuniclus which is everywhere in OU... now you have to run ttar/scizor/volcarona (other species are available)

It would make Weavile more viable in OU and adds some more variety to the tier.

 

 

 

 

(Weavile fan btw)

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Toupi said:

Knock-off is no-brainer in gen 6, and they have mega stones and fairies to somewhat counter it. Imagine it in PokeMMO environment

Even with mega stones Knock off was pretty cancerous, it became much more bearable with Z crystals around.

Also fairies don't really like switching into Knock Off spammers that much either, fairies tend to have more special bulk than physical and the most common Knock off spammers have a secondary STAB move they can follow up on. Had Steel type retained its Dark resist, it's more likely people would have found it less annoying.

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I agree that there isn't much to be done about knock off,

but on here you have the occasional tentacruel/gliscor/ferrothorn that carries it just for the item removal (the damage wouldn't matter here, maybe on gliscor)

 

What carries knock off in SM OU, off the top of my head: tangrowth, bisharp, weavile, scizor, mega sableye and mega mawile. only 3 of those are viable on here and I personally wouldn't run it on scizor over pursuit...

 

Let's add a little bit more aids to OU

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Chjul19 said:

Lf scald base power drop

Trust me if Masuda did that I'd hold Kyu at gunpoint to quickpatch it in.

34 minutes ago, Soul said:

Let's add a little bit more aids to OU

Don't worry that's planned already.

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