hihats Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) Speedruns are pretty popular in many games. The goal is to finish the game as fast as possible. There are lots of pokemon speed run videos on youtube. In many MMO's, people do speed runs of elite areas, where beating the instance as fast as possible is great for the end loot and bragging rights. I used to play Guild Wars 1, and a popular end game aspect was (and still is) to speed clear elite areas for the rewards. Tons of teamwork and cooperation is required to keep pushing those records. What I hope with this thread is create such an environment where we can innovate together and find the most efficient/fun ways to beat E4. So what I am proposing here is a 1,000,000$ reward to the first person who can beat any Elite 4 (kanto, hoenn, unova) in less than 35 minutes. I believe this is hard, but achievable. My personal best is about 55 minutes. The best time I have seen is from @Crazyhell, 46 minutes for Unova E4. Requirements: -Lvl 100 elite 4 -Time <= 35 minutes -Provide team build, moves, EV spreads, items, etc... -a video should be used as proof, but... -I just might accept a screenshot displaying the cooldown timer as proof WE HAVE A WINNER. Congratulations Shuck! Current records: Kanto: Aard - 16:29 Hoenn: ______ Unova: Crazyhell - 46 minutes Previous records: Kanto: -Shuck - 18:36 -Shuck - 21:21 -Shuck - 29:30 -mago1993 - 47minutes Hoenn: Unova: Proof: Spoiler P.S. If some mods want to get involved I will mail you the reward money. Edited August 1, 2018 by hihats Kanto World record by Aard SweeTforU, RysPicz and Crazyhell 3 Link to comment
yourmajezty Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 how much money is made after doing all 3 regions? Link to comment
hihats Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 well you get 82k with amulet coin and 2k Battle Points for unova elite 4, not sure about the other two. should be similar. Link to comment
sephiroth1977 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 35 mins is far to small a time. Its impossible! Even if you had perfect mons for every level cap and rng was on your side its impossible. Maybe with the original games its possible, as theres glitches and exploits that allow crazy completion times. But not here on pokemmo. Link to comment
hihats Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, sephiroth1977 said: 35 mins is far to small a time. Its impossible! Even if you had perfect mons for every level cap and rng was on your side its impossible. Maybe with the original games its possible, as theres glitches and exploits that allow crazy completion times. But not here on pokemmo. Well I have had some fights against leaders last around 5-6 minutes. So 5 fights X 6 minutes is 30 minutes. Hence the challenge. I believe 35 mins should be possible, that is just 11 minutes less than the current record. What I noticed takes time is when i'm stalling out turns forcing switches for spikes damage. So yeah hyper offense would be a possible way to be fast. 2-3 years ago it would take me 20 minutes to beat the first round of E4 before the level caps. Just realized you are maybe thinking about a speedrun for the whole game. What I meant is a speedrun of just the elite 4 instance once they have lvl 100 teams. Link to comment
Crazyhell Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 End of your event ? 24 minutes ago, sephiroth1977 said: 35 mins is far to small a time. Its impossible! Even if you had perfect mons for every level cap and rng was on your side its impossible. Maybe with the original games its possible, as theres glitches and exploits that allow crazy completion times. But not here on pokemmo. let me proof 35min it's enough i think i can beat the E4 in 25min Link to comment
hihats Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 50 minutes ago, Crazyhell said: End of your event ? let me proof 35min it's enough i think i can beat the E4 in 25min The event is still on! Man if you can hit 25 mins that would be awesome! Link to comment
Kizhaz Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Kanto should be much simpler since there are only 7 leaders and no crazy puzzles. Unova has 11 leaders (12 if you do morimoto) with some puzzles that take a few minutes. I like the idea but I think 35min across the board might need to be reworked ;) Link to comment
aftershocker Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 26 minutes ago, Kizhaz said: Kanto should be much simpler since there are only 7 leaders and no crazy puzzles. Unova has 11 leaders (12 if you do morimoto) with some puzzles that take a few minutes. I like the idea but I think 35min across the board might need to be reworked ;) This is e4, not gyms :p Link to comment
Kizhaz Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, aftershocker said: This is e4, not gyms :p In my defense I just woke up when I posted that RysPicz, aftershocker, Matoka and 9 others 12 Link to comment
Munya Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 It takes Kizhaz 5 minutes to do the elite 4. Lightningvolt, Bestfriends, Kizhaz and 2 others 5 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 @Tranzmaster razimove and Shuck 2 Link to comment
simm Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 good luck to anyone attempting this ! Link to comment
mago1993 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Kanto 47minutes hihats and Toupi 1 1 Link to comment
hihats Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 15 hours ago, mago1993 said: Kanto 47minutes mago1993, that is awesome. I will update the main post to list you as current Kanto champion. The $1,000,000 reward has yet to be claimed. CMON guys and gals! Link to comment
mago1993 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 just now i finish a league kanto again, in 42 minutes, but i'm forgot recording =( Link to comment
hihats Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Haha that's fine just make sure you record if you make it to 35 mins or less ;) Link to comment
hihats Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 the offer is still on guys, cmon! Link to comment
Shuck Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) I did a couple tries and I gotta say its hard to get a consistent time in the E4 because of their team diversity and the RNG factor. This is my best time and I'm done for now, made a few mistakes and misclicks but whatevs I wont get any luckier than this. Time: 36:50(time ends after I get the "you won" message) Sorry for the shitty quality, my recorder sucks. Edited June 1, 2018 by Shuck hihats, mago1993, Toupi and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Archiver Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 @Shuck Can you post the IVs for your team? I'm interested in trying it out. And have you thought about doing it with a full Baton Pass team or would that not work? Link to comment
mago1993 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 in the future i try with a same team but with any changes vaporeon without scald, with protec... or change hydreigon for other poke. (togekiss, durant or gliscor with baton pass for example, its posible) 4 hours ago, Shuck said: I did a couple tries and I gotta say its hard to get a consistent time in the E4 because of their team diversity and the RNG factor. This is my best time and I'm done for now, made a few mistakes and misclicks but whatevs I wont get any luckier than this. Time: 36:50(time ends after I get the "you won" message) Sorry for the shitty quality, my recorder sucks. Link to comment
Shuck Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Archiver said: @Shuck Can you post the IVs for your team? I'm interested in trying it out. And have you thought about doing it with a full Baton Pass team or would that not work? The whole team has perfect IV's since they are/were my comps. Vaporeon is Bold 252 HP 252 Def Espeon is Timid 252 HP 252 Spe Hydreigon is Modest 252 Spa 252 Spe Gyarados is Jolly 252 Atk 252 Spe Volcarona is Timid 252 Spa 252 Spe Jolteon is Timid 252 Spa 252 Spe This team is FAR from being optimal, so a full BP team should be faster and easier but not by much since you still need good match ups and not get crit while doing your chain. Edited June 1, 2018 by Shuck Link to comment
Shuck Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) Alright made a few adjustments to the team and got a 29:30 ish Baton pass is definitely the key to fast E4's, I need to try Ninjask and physical sweepers sometime. Edited June 2, 2018 by Shuck Better run hihats and Deadwind 1 1 Link to comment
Archiver Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) @Shuck I was planning on using a similar team using Ninjask, Vaporeon, Togekiss, Gliscor and Espeon. I want to use Reflect and Light Screen on Togekiss for more damage reduction and try to get more Nasty Plot boosts behind it. Ninjask is a guaranteed +2 speed boost and with enough EVs on speed for Vaporeon all of them can outspeed a 252EV, 31IV, Timid Jolteon which is pretty much the fastest thing the E4 has; +4 speed is needed if Jolteon is using a Choice Scarf which is done by using Agility on Gliscor since it can pretty much take anything Jolteon throws at it (except HP ice if it runs it). Also I noticed your Espeon isn't using Stored Power. Why not? With enough boosts it can pretty much OHKO anything. Unfortunately this is still in the building stage since I still need to breed those pokemons so they have 4x31 at least. If you have the Pokemons and want to try it here's the text stuff to import on Pokemon Showdown: Spoiler Ninjask @ Leftovers Ability: Speed Boost EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe Impish Nature IVs: 0 Atk / 0 SpA - Baton Pass - Substitute - Protect - Swords Dance Togekiss @ Light Clay Ability: Serene Grace EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe Calm Nature IVs: 0 Atk / 0 SpA - Baton Pass - Reflect - Light Screen - Nasty Plot Vaporeon @ Leftovers Ability: Water Absorb EVs: 244 HP / 136 Def / 128 Spe Bold Nature IVs: 0 Atk / 0 SpA - Baton Pass - Substitute - Acid Armor - Aqua Ring Gliscor @ Leftovers Ability: Sand Veil EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD Calm Nature IVs: 0 Atk / 0 SpA - Baton Pass - Substitute - Protect - Agility Espeon @ Leftovers Ability: Synchronize EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD Bold Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Baton Pass - Calm Mind - Stored Power - Hidden Power [Fighting] Edited June 2, 2018 by Archiver Link to comment
Shuck Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 @Archiver Yea I forgot about Stored Power, my Espeon wasnt a baton passer and I didnt breed any mon specifically for the E4 or else I would be using Modest volcarona, Calm Togekiss etc... The team looks good, GL on the team build and future runs. Link to comment
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