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7 minutes ago, Mnemosyne said:

@gbwead how is it possible that people with 0-1 have more points then me (I go 1-1) 


What is this dumb system lmao

The scaling will be reworked next season to prevent that, but right now it only means that the 0-1 player lost to a player with very good ratio while the 1-1 players played against more mediocre players. I don't think it would be fair to adjust the scaling after the season has started, but it will be changed dw.

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3 minutes ago, gbwead said:

The scaling will be reworked next season to prevent that, but right now it only means that the 0-1 player lost to players with very good ratios while the 1-1 players played against more mediocre players. I don't think it would be fair to adjust the scaling after the season has started, but it will be changed dw.

Well maybe a bit overreacted by how I mentioned you but I kinda thought it was just pretty weird that people with 0-1 can have more points then someone going 1-1.

 

Maybe do something that you get 0 points for losing?

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Ya, I wanted initially to have a W/L score that rewards the players that play the most, so that a 1-0 player would not have the same score as a 4-3 player even though they both theorically have a positive ratio with only 1 more win than their amount of losses. The problem is that I scaled it so much in favor of the players that played a lot that the 0-1 player that lost to a 7-0 player like Lkrenz ended up with a match-up score so high that 1-0 players could not compete with that. 

 

Unless someone disagrees, I will probably use option 2 or 3 next season to avoid that 0-1 players beat 1-0 players.

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Ok I've looked at the rankings and I'll give my opinion.

 

fix the 0-1 to 1-0 issue inside of individual tiers. Also, In individual tiers wins should take precedent and be worth more, and losses worth way less. I believe ELO rewards quantity of wins more than just quality to fix some of the 5-2 to 2-0 issues. (IMO 5-2 guy should > 2-0 guy). Your ranking typically doesn't have this problem so as long as you fix the 0-1issue this will be fine.

 

In overall tiers, losses should be worth more and hurt performance rank more. The 0-1 player should be higher than the 0-7 player, even if the the 0-7 guy had harder matchups. Overall considers all factors it just tier strength, so you have to consider who is more valuable within the algorithm. If you lose 7 games your useless and hurting your team every week, if ur 0-1, it's just a minor loss. Maybe instead of point based on who has the highest points,  you should try the average chance that player can beat any other play. (Similar to gxe on showdown). 

 

I am not  statistician or whatever so hopefully that makes sense. 

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10 minutes ago, Kimikozen said:

Ok I've looked at the rankings and I'll give my opinion.

 

fix the 0-1 to 1-0 issue inside of individual tiers. Also, In individual tiers wins should take precedent and be worth more, and losses worth way less. I believe ELO rewards quantity of wins more than just quality to fix some of the 5-2 to 2-0 issues. (IMO 5-2 guy should > 2-0 guy). Your ranking typically doesn't have this problem so as long as you fix the 0-1issue this will be fine.

 

In overall tiers, losses should be worth more and hurt performance rank more. The 0-1 player should be higher than the 0-7 player, even if the the 0-7 guy had harder matchups. Overall considers all factors it just tier strength, so you have to consider who is more valuable within the algorithm. If you lose 7 games your useless and hurting your team every week, if ur 0-1, it's just a minor loss. Maybe instead of point based on who has the highest points,  you should try the average chance that player can beat any other play. (Similar to gxe on showdown). 

 

I am not  statistician or whatever so hopefully that makes sense. 

Thanks for the feedback, I'll try to come up with something for next season that takes all you said into account.

@LionKIng, I just added the Overall Cost/Score ratio in the OP. I'm not sure how to do it week by week like you suggested, but I'll try to figure it out as well.
 

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Rank Players Total Score Credit cost Cost/Score Ratio
1 Kamimiii 182,56 2 91,28
2 Linken 182,00 2 91,00
3 Nahwel 163,00 2 81,50
4 TheFireLion 146,90 2 73,45
5 OscarFail 118 2 59,00
6 AlitoFernando 115,5 2 57,75
7 Pinklabel 104,83 2 52,42
8 Mnemosyne 100,25 2 50,13
9 Chjul 93,75 2 46,88
10 CrissCy 88,00 2 44,00
10 AxLKghost 88 2 44,00
12 Jostarr 87,95 2 43,98
13 Takens 87,64 2 43,82
14 Zigh 123,78 3 41,26
15 IIIKhan 82 2 41,00
16 Calculatrize 81,13 2 40,56
17 Spaintakula 80,33 2 40,17
18 aftershocker 199,36 5 39,87
19 Bilburt 79,25 2 39,63
20 Redav 76,25 2 38,13
21 Cheels 111,83 3 37,28
22 Fredrichnietze 70,00 2 35,00
23 StriderXD 100,88 3 33,63
24 Jaawax 98,50 3 32,83
25 BulBAEsaur 65,17 2 32,58
26 Pachima 157,50 5 31,50
27 Moisessssssssss 182,89 6 30,48
28 YungTor 84,86 3 28,29
29 Sweendog 109,59 4 27,40
30 RLotus 157,40 6 26,23
31 EfronX 156,38 6 26,06
32 Zymogen 104,20 4 26,05
33 HXIN 101,60 4 25,40
34 Axellgor 226,13 9 25,13
35 Barrage 100,00 4 25,00
36 Oltann 149,90 6 24,98
37 Kriliin 149,05 6 24,84
38 Suneet 91,60 4 22,90
39 gypss 87,57 4 21,89
40 YettoDie 192,39 9 21,38
41 Goldeneyes 188,89 9 20,99
42 bulldogblue 79,50 4 19,88
42 Kriger 79,50 4 19,88
44 SirVector 57,38 3 19,13
1 Elcoolio 281,71 15 18,78
46 Excavalier 112 6 18,67
47 TheChampionMike 130,17 7 18,60
48 Souu 123,00 7 17,57
49 Bluejim 169,50 10 16,95
50 Yosoyarca 184,44 11 16,77
51 Rikoudo 163,50 10 16,35
52 NightWingX 63,50 4 15,88
53 Forfiter 188,11 13 14,47
54 JhowCrazy 90,30 7 12,90
55 kimikozen 231,06 18 12,84
56 MadaraSixSix 120,94 10 12,09
57 xSparkie 152,80 13 11,75
58 Yaritan 55,67 5 11,13
59 ZhikoDark 152,65 14 10,90
60 Stelian 75,56 7 10,79
61 Artemiseta 80,67 8 10,08
62 MaatthewMLG 102,59 11 9,33
63 iJulianFNT 108,41 12 9,03
64 Gbwead 215,50 24 8,98
65 Yangsam 103,30 12 8,61
66 Predakiller 140,21 17 8,25
67 Rendiz 138,55 17 8,15
68 LifeStyle 226,75 28 8,10
69 BlueBreath 236,69 30 7,89
70 LKrenz 280,64 36 7,80
71 SejuaniSupport 128,27 17 7,55
72 Aerun 93,60 13 7,20
73 Ketze 57,25 8 7,16
74 DoubleJ 115,45 18 6,41
75 Senile 96,00 15 6,40
76 Rynners 44,70 7 6,39
77 Enchanteur 188,67 30 6,29
78 SweeTforU 145,50 26 5,60
79 Gunthug 109,41 20 5,47
80 MaeKaaay 109,05 20 5,45
81 BurntZebra 162,55 31 5,24
82 Lazaaro 77,67 15 5,18
83 Giantpipe 112,32 22 5,11
84 Sebat 82,46 17 4,85
85 Schuchty 81,46 18 4,53

 

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5 hours ago, RysPicz said:

Playoffs not included at all?

I wasn't planning to include playoffs. I feel it would be weird to compare players that could only compete for 7 weeks to players that were able to compete 10 weeks. 

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