gbwead Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gunthug said: I actually agree that the secondary showdown tier hasn't ever really had the quality we had hoped for. But the notion that mmo players spend more time planning, testing, and teambuilding than showdown players is laughable, and also completely beyond proof. The level of dedication required to play competitive mmo is considerable for psl and therefore no one would waste their time grinding for comps if prior to that they hadn't taking the time to break down the meta. Showdown players don't have to do anything to play on a simulator. 10 minutes ago, BurntZebra said: That's not really true in theory. With showdown, you are not limited by resources/building comps, so all of your time investment goes into scouting, teambuilding, and testing, which is much easier to do with a huge playerbase for SM OU. In theory, you are absolutely right. Showdown players have more time to teambuild, plan and all that prep before competing, but every PSL most people end up disappointed by the performances of Showdown players. Imo, this indicates that the time showdown players save from not having to grind is not used towards their prepation, but moreso to not caring as much about PSL. Edited December 21, 2017 by gbwead Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 To weigh in, I totally agree that the Showdown tier has it's own value. It not only brings back dead players that are reluctant to let go of the game, but it also bridges the gaps between various metas. Unfortunately, the HYPE around a second showdown tier has failed time and time again. From ADV to BW to SMOU to VGC15, 16, and 17... the competitive level is always pretty darn shit. I'd love to have another Showdown tier, but historically speaking there is no evidence stating it will be any different than before. SMOU was a complete shit show last season and it was honestly really boring to watch. Considering that, it's time to venture away from Showdown and highlight the one tier that we do have a diverse and skilled playerbase in, "DPP", while promoting our own tiers. LC will be a mainstay of PokeMMO and it shouldn't come as a surprise that we will support that here. There will not be a 2nd Showdown tier sadly. SejuaniSupport, SirAlbert and gbwead 3 Link to comment
Telf Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, DoubleJ said: To weigh in, I totally agree that the Showdown tier has it's own value. It not only brings back dead players that are reluctant to let go of the game, but it also bridges the gaps between various metas. Unfortunately, the HYPE around a second showdown tier has failed time and time again. From ADV to BW to SMOU to VGC15, 16, and 17... the competitive level is always pretty darn shit. I'd love to have another Showdown tier, but historically speaking there is no evidence stating it will be any different than before. SMOU was a complete shit show last season and it was honestly really boring to watch. Considering that, it's time to venture away from Showdown and highlight the one tier that we do have a diverse and skilled playerbase in, "DPP", while promoting our own tiers. LC will be a mainstay of PokeMMO and it shouldn't come as a surprise that we will support that here. There will not be a 2nd Showdown tier sadly. but we still having VGC r-r-right? notmudkip0, DoubleJ and RysPicz 3 Link to comment
Nawe Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 if people dont have time, why they play this im not saying that in psl dont play showdown, but no more than dpp please 10tiers= 2 showdown 8 tiers = 1 showdown prioritize pokemmo, the deads are that, deads Zymogen, aftershocker and gbwead 3 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 3 hours ago, NikhilR said: Kay vs Pipe, Doc v. Yubell, Osuki vs XPLOZ @giantpipe my son :) Camyy, Moisesrg, TiToooo and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Suneet Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 9 hours ago, Nawe said: 10tiers= 2 showdown 8 tiers = 1 showdown Forgot bout this, what are the thoughts on 10 tiers? We could add NU and a 2nd showdown tier too Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 59 minutes ago, Suneet said: Forgot bout this, what are the thoughts on 10 tiers? We could add NU and a 2nd showdown tier too You should probably log on every once in a while. Link to comment
Suneet Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, DoubleJ said: You should probably log on every once in a while. Can't, irl issues, but why? Is NU completely dead? DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
GeneralVenican Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) so the name is baenninenexl? Edited December 22, 2017 by GeneralVenican Link to comment
Bilburt Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Suneet said: Can't, irl issues, but why? Is NU completely dead? NU is just a no Link to comment
Mkns1070 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Suneet said: Can't, irl issues, but why? Is NU completely dead? NU now ? Rip man all > NU atm Link to comment
giantpipe Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 23 hours ago, KaynineXL said: @giantpipe my son :) hahahaha good joke my girl or my son , i rekt u many times i lost count Camyy, Moisesrg, DoubleJ and 1 other 4 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 Donations are slow, but we are getting them to trickle in. Shout out to @giantpipe for dropping a dime. Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, giantpipe said: hahahaha good joke my girl or my son , i rekt u many times i lost count jajajajaa Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 Lord @LKrenz our reigning champion has vowed to devote his tournament winnings to the PSL. Let's see if he can win two in one day. Sashaolin, Nawe, Camyy and 2 others 5 Link to comment
LKrenz Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 3 hours ago, DoubleJ said: Lord @LKrenz our reigning champion has vowed to devote his tournament winnings to the PSL. Let's see if he can win two in one day. Everyone should blame Coolio, he stole another million that was going to be destined to psl. DoubleJ, Bilburt, Nawe and 1 other 4 Link to comment
DaftCoolio Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Small revenge for think stealing 20mil in season 3 Telf, DoubleJ, LKrenz and 2 others 5 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 Tbf he only got 500k Link to comment
DaftCoolio Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Just now, DoubleJ said: Tbf he only got 500k So sad Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, DaftCoolio said: So sad I tried to help you, but nope... stubborn snake. Link to comment
DaftCoolio Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DoubleJ said: I tried to help you, but nope... stubborn snake. Kabutops is bad Edited December 23, 2017 by DaftCoolio DoubleJ and BurntZebra 2 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 55 minutes ago, DaftCoolio said: Kabutops is bad You know nothing Coolio Snow. Link to comment
Fabbroo Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 shit name #1 Telf and DoubleJ 2 Link to comment
Bilburt Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, Fabbroo said: shit name #1 idk if you're referring to this PSL, or the team Link to comment
gbwead Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bilburt said: idk if you're referring to this PSL, or the team Cmon Bil, I know V4 have plenty of trashbois, but I wouldn't call their team shit. Parke 1 Link to comment
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