Gunthug Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 hours ago, NikhilR said: Because it feels bad when you get your SPL trophy taken away + then don't get drafted this season :( Hide contents mid season hype? Haha yeah exactly, that's why I don't play spl. Because I don't want my trophy taken. Not because I don't exist to those people NikhilR 1 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Gunthug said: Haha yeah exactly, that's why I don't play spl. Because I don't want my trophy taken. Not because I don't exist to those people do you exist here tho Suneet, Laz, gbwead and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Gunthug Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, KaynineXL said: do you exist here tho Can't hear you over the deafening sound of my psl trophy cabinet. All those championship trophies are rattling around in there NikhilR 1 Link to comment
Kizhaz Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Gunthug said: Can't hear you over the deafening sound of my psl trophy cabinet. All those championship trophies are rattling around in there better warn Ari there's another earthquake then Suneet, Telf, DoubleJ and 7 others 10 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Gunthug said: Can't hear you over the deafening sound of my psl trophy cabinet. All those championship trophies are rattling around in there @DaftCoolio Link to comment
DaftCoolio Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, DoubleJ said: @DaftCoolio a lion doesn't concern himself with the opinion of a sheep aftershocker and DoubleJ 2 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, DaftCoolio said: a snake doesn't concern himself with the opinion of a mouse Link to comment
DaftCoolio Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, DoubleJ said: hiss hiss DoubleJ, Suneet and KaynineXL 3 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, DaftCoolio said: hiss hiss Let's be teammates finally. We can rule the galaxy together as father and son (you the son). Link to comment
Toast Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 5 hours ago, DaftCoolio said: hiss hiss kevin durant is that you Link to comment
DaftCoolio Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 17 minutes ago, Toast said: kevin durant is that you Nah he only got 1 ring Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Toast said: kevin durant is that you Must be Jon Snow, cuz this young man knows nothin' 43 minutes ago, DaftCoolio said: Nah he only got 1 ring The Black Mamba ez. Link to comment
DaftCoolio Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I'll donate once i make 8 more posts about it Goldeneyes and DoubleJ 1 1 Link to comment
Spaintakula Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Does anyone know if coolio will donate oh Link to comment
Linken Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 there would have been skill in sm ou last season but my coach never let me play it ^^ how about bw or oras ou? oras did work pretty well 2 or 3 seasons ago iirc Link to comment
Kizhaz Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Why are we debating taking out an MMO tier? DoubleJ and Nawe 2 Link to comment
Nawe Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, Kizhaz said: Why are we debating taking out an MMO tier? because some people dont understand that this is a pokemmo tourney POKEMMO TIERS > showdownshit *POKEMMO BROKEN TIERS > showdownshit gbwead 1 Link to comment
NikhilR Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Those that prefer MMO tiers over Showdown tiers don't understand that the players who prefer showdown do not wish to spend thousands of hours grinding just to be able to compete and be on the same level as others in MMO tiers. It requires an extreme amount of your time + dedication towards getting $$$ for comps, ev training them, obtaining tutor moves, pp maxing them, and then cteaming your opponent. KaynineXL and Gunthug 2 Link to comment
Gunthug Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 "WHY do the devs keep adding more and more grind, god i hate how much grind this game is" "Showdown tiers are shit, only pokemmo tiers where you have to grind and grind and grind to play should be in PSL" Link to comment
DaftCoolio Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Kizhaz said: Why are we debating taking out an MMO tier? Idk if you can call LC a tier KaynineXL and amanisnoone 2 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 Hate saying this but, LC is going to be a PSL tier this season. There are three conditions that need to be met before we can start the season: Eviolite Implement the remaining common abilities Implement the remaining moves that are missing (or at least most of them, this has the lowest priority) Once we get those things, we can rock and roll. gbwead 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 As much as I hate grinding myself, I think the grind is what make MMO tiers preferable to Showdown tiers in PSL. 2 hours ago, NikhilR said: Those that prefer MMO tiers over Showdown tiers don't understand that the players who prefer showdown do not wish to spend thousands of hours grinding just to be able to compete and be on the same level as others in MMO tiers. It requires an extreme amount of your time + dedication towards getting $$$ for comps, ev training them, obtaining tutor moves, pp maxing them, and then cteaming your opponent. The fact that people have to grind so much in order to compete in MMO is the reason why MMO players spend much more time planning, testing and teambuilding than Showdown players. Every PSL, we usually get very hyped matches for MMO tiers where there is better competition than any secondary showdown tier that gets picked. DoubleJ, SirAlbert and Zymogen 3 Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, gbwead said: As much as I hate grinding myself, I think the grind is what make MMO tiers preferable to Showdown tiers in PSL. The fact that people have to grind so much in order to compete in MMO is the reason why MMO players spend much more time planning, testing and teambuilding than Showdown players. Every PSL, we usually get very hyped matches for MMO tiers where there is better competition than any secondary showdown tier that gets picked. That's not really true in theory. With showdown, you are not limited by resources/building comps, so all of your time investment goes into scouting, teambuilding, and testing, which is much easier to do with a huge playerbase for SM OU. I guess the fault of the showdown tiers in PSL used to lie in the fact that they were a target for the inactive players who were not willing to make new comps for MMO, so they just settled for showdown tiers. But now, I feel that the showdown tiers have a broader appeal to the general playerbase, as we gain new pokemon and new mechanics, the gap between PokeMMO and certain showdown tiers is less than before, and learning how to play gen 4-7 on showdown will broaden your knowledge and teambuilding for MMO. Link to comment
Gunthug Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, gbwead said: As much as I hate grinding myself, I think the grind is what make MMO tiers preferable to Showdown tiers in PSL. The fact that people have to grind so much in order to compete in MMO is the reason why MMO players spend much more time planning, testing and teambuilding than Showdown players. Every PSL, we usually get very hyped matches for MMO tiers where there is better competition than any secondary showdown tier that gets picked. I actually agree that the secondary showdown tier hasn't ever really had the quality we had hoped for. But the notion that mmo players spend more time planning, testing, and teambuilding than showdown players is laughable, and also completely beyond proof. Link to comment
NikhilR Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) Just now, gbwead said: The fact that people have to grind so much in order to compete in MMO is the reason why MMO players spend much more time planning, testing and teambuilding than Showdown players. Every PSL, we usually get very hyped matches for MMO tiers where there is better competition than any secondary showdown tier that gets picked. I am not sure about what approach you take towards breeding, but I like to breed almost everything because you'll never know when you need something. I've spent the last one week grinding my ass off, and I still have a lot more pokemon to breed with various sets. Like a Lucario can run several sets such as SD / CC / Crunch / Bullet Punch / Espeed or alternatively a special set, and I just have one atm. I don't plan in advance of whether or not I will be able to slot it into a team, but more of the fact that I'd like to have it in hand incase the occasion to use it arises sometime during a tour. So I can only speak for myself here gb. However, when it comes to PSL, I usually build from scratch because as one of the GOAT (I can't hold back on showing off bro), I believe that PSL is a better platform to showcase your creativity, which requires new comps / changes, although it need not be from scratch. But the path I need to take to get there is so huge, that I cannot imagine signing up to play UU since I haven't even finished with breeding for OU. We do get a lot of hype for MMO tiers, but I think that's mostly because people are more familiar with MMO tiers than with showdown, and also because there's some drama behind it, like Kay vs Pipe, Doc v. Yubell, Osuki vs XPLOZ etc. I rarely ever got hyped for ORAS / VGC matches because I had absolutely no clue of what was happening. The surprise factor is something that most people look forward to in almost every event, except that the "surprise" can more common in Showdown because of players' lack of knowledge. Examples of surprise moments are Custap Berry Magnezone ( @Oltan) , my healing wish Jirachi to Cresselia vs Gunt, his crazy ass Raikou set vs me etc. DPP Showdown has always been hyped because it's mostly between experienced players like myself, Gunt, XPLOZ, Kimi, Sweet, (and anyone else I forgot, my b) etc. EDIT: You're right, our secondary showdown tiers have always sucked like ADV, VGC, ORAS, but personal bias aside, DPP has always been exciting, and it's a completely different excitement when you're the one playing it. Edited December 21, 2017 by NikhilR DoubleJ, Mike and Camyy 3 Link to comment
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