Senile Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 Update 2: The UU list is now in the OP. Still quite subject to change, but now everyone should have an idea of what NU, UU, and OU will look like. Link to comment
suigin Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Will they notice? Senile 1 Link to comment
YettoDie Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 hours ago, DoubleJ said: While it might not strike many as an immediate OU, we should probably consider the immediate impact Venusaur will have on the tier. It's a sure fire switch in for Ferrothorn, especially with the heavy number of HP Fire Venu's we already have. It also handles Jellicent fairly well, as well as stalling Chansey and Blissey with Leech Seed. It is also an ez switch for Breloom and can threaten Scizor if healthy. Our lord and savior has spoken. xXBlu3BreathXx, Senile and cchiovitti527 3 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 hour ago, suigin said: Will they notice? Zoroark? Link to comment
suigin Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, DoubleJ said: Zoroark? That's a good point we were told he wasn't coming out, why is it in the list? But no I meant a thicker mon. DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, suigin said: That's a good point we were told he wasn't coming out, why is it in the list? But no I meant a thicker mon. Oh you mean Snorlax? When I read your post I was hoping for a legendary to be revealed, but then I saw Zoroark and was like "hmmm... how they gonna implement that?" Next Gen UU is about to be our current Gen OU. Link to comment
suigin Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Yeah I kind of expected a big backlash when it came to it or at least a mention. DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
Kimikozen Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It's gonna be really interesting to see how rain develops in this meta compared to original black white. This may be a radical opinion, but I honestly think it could be as just as strong in some ways. Stuff like rain stall and rain balance is probably dead, as 5 or 8 turns simply is just not enough to sustain defensive teams that rely on rain. But offense rain might just be as strong. Despite in this meta not having many rain threats like Tornadus, Thundurus, Toxicroak, Keldeo, etc, we do have Pelipper > Politoed. I think Pelipper will be huge bcuz it has U-turn which is going to be amazing for momentum. I think Pelipper/Ferrothorn/Kingdra/Kabutops will be an archetype in this meta, and it will function similarly to SM OU rain. Although the biggest difference between SM and this new meta rain archetype with pelliper is that Ttar will probably be on every single team in this meta and that will hurt Rains ability to do work. But on the contrary, there is no Rotom wash, Celebi, regenerator amoongus, gastrodon to check/wall common rain mons. Zymogen 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Wait fam, is there team preview?! Link to comment
Senile Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, DoubleJ said: Wait fam, is there team preview?! Not right now, but apparently it should be added somewhere between "Soon" and "Eventually". Draekyn, Munya, ORBFLUX and 11 others 14 Link to comment
Telf Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 real quick question, why is peliper ou? Link to comment
Senile Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Telf said: real quick question, why is peliper ou? Drizzle. Link to comment
Telf Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Senile said: Drizzle. oh for some reason i thought it was a hidden ability Link to comment
Kizhaz Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Kimikozen said: It's gonna be really interesting to see how rain develops in this meta compared to original black white. This may be a radical opinion, but I honestly think it could be as just as strong in some ways. Stuff like rain stall and rain balance is probably dead, as 5 or 8 turns simply is just not enough to sustain defensive teams that rely on rain. But offense rain might just be as strong. Despite in this meta not having many rain threats like Tornadus, Thundurus, Toxicroak, Keldeo, etc, we do have Pelipper > Politoed. I think Pelipper will be huge bcuz it has U-turn which is going to be amazing for momentum. I think Pelipper/Ferrothorn/Kingdra/Kabutops will be an archetype in this meta, and it will function similarly to SM OU rain. Although the biggest difference between SM and this new meta rain archetype with pelliper is that Ttar will probably be on every single team in this meta and that will hurt Rains ability to do work. But on the contrary, there is no Rotom wash, Celebi, regenerator amoongus, gastrodon to check/wall common rain mons. I imagine seismetoad will become a popular counter to rain teams. Stuff like hp grass Kingdra may come to light Link to comment
Senile Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Kizhaz said: I imagine seismetoad will become a popular counter to rain teams. Stuff like hp grass Kingdra may come to light BigFatToad only gets Water Absorb as a hidden ability, so it's terrible against rain. Kizhaz, DoubleJ and Goldeneyes 3 Link to comment
Suneet Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Will there be a tutor for roost in Unova? Link to comment
Darkshade Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, Suneet said: Will there be a tutor for roost in Unova? Shortly after release, yes. Link to comment
Suneet Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Darkshade said: Shortly after release, yes. Exactly how long would you expect it to be released by? Link to comment
Darkshade Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Suneet said: Exactly how long would you expect it to be released by? Honestly I couldn't tell you, but ideally a week tops. DarylDixon, Zymogen, xXBlu3BreathXx and 6 others 9 Link to comment
Suneet Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Darkshade said: Honestly I couldn't tell you, but ideally a week tops. Sounds pretty good, I was expecting something like a month or two, which would suck, but 1 week seems like a short enough wait Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Darkshade said: Honestly I couldn't tell you, but ideally a week tops. Oh that's dope. Hopefully we comp minded folks will have finished the storyline by then. Perfect timing imo. Link to comment
DarylDixon Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 5 hours ago, Darkshade said: Honestly I couldn't tell you, but ideally a week tops. just soontm right' Link to comment
RysPicz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, DarylDixon said: just soontm right' eventually (tm) Link to comment
Kite Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Can we talk about Scarf Excadrill? EQ, Rock Slide, Rapid Spin, Iron Head could be a really good set. Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 27 minutes ago, Kite said: Can we talk about Scarf Excadrill? EQ, Rock Slide, Rapid Spin, Iron Head could be a really good set. Not really that great, unless you want to be able to revenge kill other excadrills in sand (which would mean you would also have to be sand rush and not mold breaker). Excadrill's utility comes from being able to swords dance and that set doesn't really accomplish it. Locking yourself into rapid spin is generally a bad idea Link to comment
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