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Here's a list of pokes which will most likely require a hidden ability from gens 1-3. A'ka, these are pokes we will have to breed from scratch, rather than re-breeding them. I have included legendaries just for fun hue.

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Chlorophyll Venusaur

Solar Power Charizard

Tinted Lens Butterfree

Sniper Beedrill

Hustle Raticate

Sniper Fearow

Lightning Rod Pika/ Raichu

Sand rush Sandslash

Sheer Force Nidos

Unaware Clef

Drought Tales

Infiltrator Bat

Effect Spore Vileplume

Swift Swim Golduck

Defiant Primeape

Justified Arcanine

Swift Swim Poliwrath

Drizzle Politoed

Magic Guard Alakazam

Flame Body Rapidash

Regenerator Slowbro/ King

Poison Touch  Muk

Overcoat Cloyster

Sheer Force Steelix

Sheer Force Kingler

Aftermath Electrode

Harvest Exeggutor

Unburden Hitmonlee

Cloud9 Licky

Regenerator Tangela

Lightning Rod Seaking

Dry Skin Jynx

Moxie Pinsir

Moxie Gyarados

Sheer Force Tauros

Guts Flareon

Magic Bounce Espeon

Gluttony Snorlax

Flame Body Moltres*

Static Zapdos*

Multiscale Dragonite

Flash Fire Typhlosion

Sheer Force Gator

Water Absorb Lanturn

Magic Bounce Xatu

Infiltrator Jumpluff

Skill link Ambipom

Unaware Quag

Prankster Murkrow

Sap Sipper Girafarig

Overcoat Forretress

Immunity Gligar

Poison Heal Gliscor

Intimidate Qwilfish

Moxie Heracross

Pickpocket Weavile/ Sneasel

Thick Fat Mamo/ Piloswine

Regenerator Corsola

Sap Sipper Stantler

Sap Sipper Miltank

Multiscale Lugia*

Regenerator Ho-oh*

Unburden Sceptile

Speed Boost Blaziken

Moxie Mightyena

Scrappy Swellow

Technician Breloom

Infiltrator Ninjask

Scrappy Exploud

Sheer Force Hariyama

Prankster Sableye

Sheer Force Mawile

Lightning rod Plusle

Volt Absorb Minun

Prankster Volbeat

Prankster Illumise

Speed Boost Sharpedo

Shell Armor Torkoal

Contrary Spinda (xdd)

Water Absorb Cacturne

Toxic Boost Zangoose

Infiltrator Seviper

Adaptability Crawdaunt

Storm Drain Cradily

Protean Kecleon

Harvest Tropius

Justified Absol

Sturdy Relicanth

Moxie Salamence

 

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18 minutes ago, RysPicz said:

Here's a list of pokes which will most likely require a hidden ability from gens 1-3. A'ka, these are pokes we will have to breed from scratch, rather than re-breeding them. I have included legendaries just for fun hue.

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Chlorophyll Venusaur

Solar Power Charizard

Tinted Lens Butterfree

Sniper Beedrill

Hustle Raticate

Sniper Fearow

Lightning Rod Pika/ Raichu

Sand rush Sandslash

Sheer Force Nidos

Unaware Clef

Drought Tales

Infiltrator Bat

Effect Spore Vileplume

Swift Swim Golduck

Defiant Primeape

Justified Arcanine

Swift Swim Poliwrath

Drizzle Politoed

Magic Guard Alakazam

Flame Body Rapidash

Regenerator Slowbro/ King

Poison Touch  Muk

Overcoat Cloyster

Sheer Force Steelix

Sheer Force Kingler

Aftermath Electrode

Harvest Exeggutor

Unburden Hitmonlee

Cloud9 Licky

Regenerator Tangela

Lightning Rod Seaking

Dry Skin Jynx

Moxie Pinsir

Moxie Gyarados

Sheer Force Tauros

Guts Flareon

Magic Bounce Espeon

Gluttony Snorlax

Flame Body Moltres*

Static Zapdos*

Multiscale Dragonite

Flash Fire Typhlosion

Sheer Force Gator

Water Absorb Lanturn

Magic Bounce Xatu

Infiltrator Jumpluff

Skill link Ambipom

Unaware Quag

Prankster Murkrow

Sap Sipper Girafarig

Overcoat Forretress

Immunity Gligar

Poison Heal Gliscor

Intimidate Qwilfish

Moxie Heracross

Pickpocket Weavile/ Sneasel

Thick Fat Mamo/ Piloswine

Regenerator Corsola

Sap Sipper Stantler

Sap Sipper Miltank

Multiscale Lugia*

Regenerator Ho-oh*

Unburden Sceptile

Speed Boost Blaziken

Moxie Mightyena

Scrappy Swellow

Technician Breloom

Infiltrator Ninjask

Scrappy Exploud

Sheer Force Hariyama

Prankster Sableye

Sheer Force Mawile

Lightning rod Plusle

Volt Absorb Minun

Prankster Volbeat

Prankster Illumise

Speed Boost Sharpedo

Shell Armor Torkoal

Contrary Spinda (xdd)

Water Absorb Cacturne

Toxic Boost Zangoose

Infiltrator Seviper

Adaptability Crawdaunt

Storm Drain Cradily

Protean Kecleon

Harvest Tropius

Justified Absol

Sturdy Relicanth

Moxie Salamence

 

Kecleon doesn't get protean until gen 6 I'm pretty sure. 

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19 minutes ago, RysPicz said:

Here's a list of pokes which will most likely require a hidden ability from gens 1-3. A'ka, these are pokes we will have to breed from scratch, rather than re-breeding them. I have included legendaries just for fun hue.

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Chlorophyll Venusaur

Solar Power Charizard

Tinted Lens Butterfree

Sniper Beedrill

Hustle Raticate

Sniper Fearow

Lightning Rod Pika/ Raichu

Sand rush Sandslash

Sheer Force Nidos

Unaware Clef

Drought Tales

Infiltrator Bat

Effect Spore Vileplume

Swift Swim Golduck

Defiant Primeape

Justified Arcanine

Swift Swim Poliwrath

Drizzle Politoed

Magic Guard Alakazam

Flame Body Rapidash

Regenerator Slowbro/ King

Poison Touch  Muk

Overcoat Cloyster

Sheer Force Steelix

Sheer Force Kingler

Aftermath Electrode

Harvest Exeggutor

Unburden Hitmonlee

Cloud9 Licky

Regenerator Tangela

Lightning Rod Seaking

Dry Skin Jynx

Moxie Pinsir

Moxie Gyarados

Sheer Force Tauros

Guts Flareon

Magic Bounce Espeon

Gluttony Snorlax

Flame Body Moltres*

Static Zapdos*

Multiscale Dragonite

Flash Fire Typhlosion

Sheer Force Gator

Water Absorb Lanturn

Magic Bounce Xatu

Infiltrator Jumpluff

Skill link Ambipom

Unaware Quag

Prankster Murkrow

Sap Sipper Girafarig

Overcoat Forretress

Immunity Gligar

Poison Heal Gliscor

Intimidate Qwilfish

Moxie Heracross

Pickpocket Weavile/ Sneasel

Thick Fat Mamo/ Piloswine

Regenerator Corsola

Sap Sipper Stantler

Sap Sipper Miltank

Multiscale Lugia*

Regenerator Ho-oh*

Unburden Sceptile

Speed Boost Blaziken

Moxie Mightyena

Scrappy Swellow

Technician Breloom

Infiltrator Ninjask

Scrappy Exploud

Sheer Force Hariyama

Prankster Sableye

Sheer Force Mawile

Lightning rod Plusle

Volt Absorb Minun

Prankster Volbeat

Prankster Illumise

Speed Boost Sharpedo

Shell Armor Torkoal

Contrary Spinda (xdd)

Water Absorb Cacturne

Toxic Boost Zangoose

Infiltrator Seviper

Adaptability Crawdaunt

Storm Drain Cradily

Protean Kecleon

Harvest Tropius

Justified Absol

Sturdy Relicanth

Moxie Salamence

 

A lot of these don't "need" them as much as they are an alternative. Cloyster doesn't use Overcoat, Miltank can choose between Thick Fat and Sap Sipper, Arcanine would rather use Intimidate, Weavile doesn't really make use of either ability, Ambipom prefers Technician, Poison Heal is still good on Breloom, etc.

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8 minutes ago, Rigamorty said:

Don't see how we could, we wouldn't have a rom for it. And we all know how that goes. Unless we're gonna start brainstorming rip off names for them. 

I think he means Hidden Abilities that exist in Gens I-V but aren't included on certain species til Generation VI.

 

In which case, we'll likely get a few.

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12 minutes ago, Darkshade said:

I think he means Hidden Abilities that exist in Gens I-V but aren't included on certain species til Generation VI.

 

In which case, we'll likely get a few.

Well protean didn't exist at all until gen 6 and that's the one in particular that was mentioned.

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53 minutes ago, Rigamorty said:

Well protean didn't exist at all until gen 6 and that's the one in particular that was mentioned.

Oh right my bad, I just listed most of the useful (more useful) abilities on these pokes. I forgot Protean isn't available until gen6.

 

Well regardless I just wanted to point out how fucking huge lot of work we will be having ahead of us if we won't get breeding at least a tiny bit simplier and expensive.

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Honestly I think the amount of work might in fact be the goal. While I know to old players it sounds absolutely terrible to have to redo this amount of shit, to new players it slightly levels the playing field. Also it kinda counts as more """content""" 

 

if you didn't see this coming you haven't played this game or MMOs in general long enough. 

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3 hours ago, RysPicz said:

Here's a list of pokes which will most likely require a hidden ability from gens 1-3. A'ka, these are pokes we will have to breed from scratch, rather than re-breeding them. I have included legendaries just for fun hue.

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Chlorophyll Venusaur

Solar Power Charizard

Tinted Lens Butterfree

Sniper Beedrill

Hustle Raticate

Sniper Fearow

Lightning Rod Pika/ Raichu

Sand rush Sandslash

Sheer Force Nidos

Unaware Clef

Drought Tales

Infiltrator Bat

Effect Spore Vileplume

Swift Swim Golduck

Defiant Primeape

Justified Arcanine

Swift Swim Poliwrath

Drizzle Politoed

Magic Guard Alakazam

Flame Body Rapidash

Regenerator Slowbro/ King

Poison Touch  Muk

Overcoat Cloyster

Sheer Force Steelix

Sheer Force Kingler

Aftermath Electrode

Harvest Exeggutor

Unburden Hitmonlee

Cloud9 Licky

Regenerator Tangela

Lightning Rod Seaking

Dry Skin Jynx

Moxie Pinsir

Moxie Gyarados

Sheer Force Tauros

Guts Flareon

Magic Bounce Espeon

Gluttony Snorlax

Flame Body Moltres*

Static Zapdos*

Multiscale Dragonite

Flash Fire Typhlosion

Sheer Force Gator

Water Absorb Lanturn

Magic Bounce Xatu

Infiltrator Jumpluff

Skill link Ambipom

Unaware Quag

Prankster Murkrow

Sap Sipper Girafarig

Overcoat Forretress

Immunity Gligar

Poison Heal Gliscor

Intimidate Qwilfish

Moxie Heracross

Pickpocket Weavile/ Sneasel

Thick Fat Mamo/ Piloswine

Regenerator Corsola

Sap Sipper Stantler

Sap Sipper Miltank

Multiscale Lugia*

Regenerator Ho-oh*

Unburden Sceptile

Speed Boost Blaziken

Moxie Mightyena

Scrappy Swellow

Technician Breloom

Infiltrator Ninjask

Scrappy Exploud

Sheer Force Hariyama

Prankster Sableye

Sheer Force Mawile

Lightning rod Plusle

Volt Absorb Minun

Prankster Volbeat

Prankster Illumise

Speed Boost Sharpedo

Shell Armor Torkoal

Contrary Spinda (xdd)

Water Absorb Cacturne

Toxic Boost Zangoose

Infiltrator Seviper

Adaptability Crawdaunt

Storm Drain Cradily

Protean Kecleon

Harvest Tropius

Justified Absol

Sturdy Relicanth

Moxie Salamence

 

i see u forgot some iron fist mons like chan and conckeluber

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25 minutes ago, DarylDixon said:

i see u forgot some iron fist mons like chan and conckeluber

Iron Fist is not a hidden ability for Chan. Also I listed only pokes from gen 1-3 and Conk is gen5. We would have to breed one anyway, compared to the army of pokes I listed

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