DaftCoolio Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Haunter dropped below the usage cutoff in OU in July due to the departure of Chansey in OU, and thus, the Tier Council decided to allow Haunter in UU once again. The last time Haunter was in UU, it was a centralizing force and seen on many teams due to the myriad of roles it can perform for a team. The Tier Council at the time was still undecided on the fate of Haunter in UU, but before we could come to a decision, Haunter rose to OU as the premiere Chansey counter. As the Tier Council never made a formal decision on Haunter, the only legitimate option was to test Haunter in UU. Since its return, Haunter has become a focal point of UU. After just a month of being in UU, Haunter is already the 3rd most used Pokemon behind only Scizor and Kangaskhan. With a great 115 base special attack and 95 base speed haunter is one of the hardest hitting pokemon, combined with an above average speed in the tier. Only a small portion of Pokemon in UU are able to outspeed Haunter without a choice scarf, and none are able to switch in vs Haunter safely. Offensive teams are often lacking reliable switchins to Haunter and thus rely on pursuit trapping instead. Pursuit trappers such as Sneasel and Absol, along with some new faces like pursuit Nidoqueen, have notably increased in usage since the introduction of Haunter. Haunter is also not a one-dimensional special attacker like Manectric. Haunter is able to take advantage of its typing and run a physically defensive set that is a whole new threat compared to the primarily special attacking sets. The bulky Haunter sets typically run sludge bomb, will o wisp, pain split, and taunt, but it is possible to change around moves as Haunter has many moves to choose from. There are very few Pokemon that can switch in on a will o wisp and also not mind Haunter's stab sludge bombs. Haunter's movepool allows it to have coverage for the entire tier and can eliminate most potential counters. Haunter's ghost typing gives it immunity to all priority moves. Haunter may not have the best defensive stats in the tier, but it has numerous switch in opportunities thanks to levitate, its ghost typing, and the great resists that it gets to the addition of its poison typing. Switch ins to Haunter are very limited and largely depend on what set Haunter is running. Nidoqueen is generally the best switch in as it only fears psychic from Haunter and punishes Haunter with pursuit. Every other special wall in UU is prone to sludge bomb poison and the bulky taunt set, making them unreliable switch ins to Haunter. Is Haunter Offensive Uber? Is it overcentralizing in UU? The Tier Council would like to hear your opinion on Haunter and whether it has any place in the future of UU. Thanks to my ghost-writers Artemiseta and BurntZebra. Arimanius, aftershocker, MaatthewMLG and 11 others 14 Link to comment
LegendP Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 worst manager DoubleJ, Toast, Coge and 18 others 21 Link to comment
LifeStyle Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Gay mon but won't make huge post cuz idc about UU lul. Instead I'll just leave DrugBreath's post about Haunter here. Arimanius and xXBlu3BreathXx 2 Link to comment
Illumino Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I am just starting to get into competitive and watch tournaments to learn so I'll admit that my word shouldn't really carry any wait. But from what I've seen banning something that is being used very commonly in a tier just causes another problem to arise. If Haunter is banned to OU it won't be used there at most it would be a gimmick rarely seen. Another threat would surely come to take its place surely not as powerful, but causing problems just the same. Link to comment
Artemiseta Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 That is not how tiring works though i can't link from iPhone but there's a tiring etiquette by senile to read xXBlu3BreathXx, Munya and DoubleJ 3 Link to comment
epicdavenport Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Illumino said: I am just starting to get into competitive and watch tournaments to learn so I'll admit that my word shouldn't really carry any wait. But from what I've seen banning something that is being used very commonly in a tier just causes another problem to arise. If Haunter is banned to OU it won't be used there at most it would be a gimmick rarely seen. Another threat would surely come to take its place surely not as powerful, but causing problems just the same. The problem with that argument is it could be used for a lot of things like snorlax going back to OU for example. Link to comment
xXBlu3BreathXx Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Illumino said: If Haunter is banned to OU it won't be used there at most it would be a gimmick rarely seen. Just because something wont get usage in higher tiers does not mean that it should be immune to being banned, if something is clearly overpowered/unhealthy then it should merit a ban. 1 minute ago, Artemiseta said: That is not how tiring works though i can't link from iPhone but there's a tiring etiquette by senile to read DoubleJ and Arimanius 2 Link to comment
Toast Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Bring back houndoom DaftCoolio and DoubleJ 2 Link to comment
wiriketchup Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) is it because now you can't win using miltank? only curse bro :'V Edited August 9, 2017 by wiriketchup Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I mean, just run scarf houndour lmao?? @pachima Torinnnnn, dsteel23, SteveDerBaum and 8 others 11 Link to comment
pachima Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 5 hours ago, BlackJovi said: I mean, just run scarf houndour lmao?? @pachima I swear Im doing one and Im beating you with it. SluaghMMO, LuisPocho, Maelstrom and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Toast Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 comp scene be like DaftCoolio 1 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Toast said: comp scene be like Since when you are a part of comp scene? Link to comment
Toast Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, RysPicz said: Since when you are a part of comp scene? back in like 2015 or something Link to comment
RysPicz Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Toast said: back in like 2015 or something I thought you left to pursue your dream of shiny lapras, always mistaken >:V Link to comment
Toast Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, RysPicz said: I thought you left to pursue your dream of shiny lapras, always mistaken >:V working on it dw Link to comment
RysPicz Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Hey isn't it time to update the tiers already? And say farewell to Granbull and Haunter? :) Link to comment
Munya Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Tiers should be updated today yes, if according to plans probably before ranked. Link to comment
RysPicz Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Alrighty, thanks Munyu. Link to comment
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