Richardn Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 hey hi, i need help, what is the best evs distribution for umbreon and the best moveset ? :) . Link to comment
Nguyen Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 EV : 252 HP + 252 Spdef move : wish/morning sun + protect/pursuit + toxic + heal bell Richardn 1 Link to comment
Mnemosyne Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Wish Protect Pursuit Toxic Richardn 1 Link to comment
Maelstrom Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Pursuit / Toxic / Moonlight / Heal Bell Richardn 1 Link to comment
MasterKillerZero Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I like this set 100 Hp 2 at. 156 def. 0 sp. at. 252 sp. def. 0 speed toxic wish/morning sun hell bell/pursuit protect/curse Richardn, Zymogen and Coge 3 Link to comment
LuisPocho Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 you can use yawm too... about curse, its pretty bad, even at +6 you wont kill nothing Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 2 hours ago, MasterKillerZero said: I like this set 100 Hp 2 at. 156 def. 0 sp. at. 252 sp. def. 0 speed toxic wish/morning sun hell bell/pursuit protect/curse Since umbreon's base HP is lower than both its defense and special defense, you benefit more from fully investing in HP and investing less into defense/special defense. So to get to 252 hp evs, let's take away 48 defense evs away and 104 special defense away, leaving us with an ev spread of 252 hp / 108 def / 148 sp def. Example Calcs to prove the damage is less. 4 Atk Life Orb Blaziken Superpower vs. 252 HP / 108 Def Umbreon: 174-205 (86.1 - 101.4%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO 252 SpA Life Orb Blaziken Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 148+ SpD Umbreon: 58-70 (28.7 - 34.6%) -- 99.6% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery vs your ev spread 4 Atk Life Orb Blaziken Superpower vs. 100 HP / 156 Def Umbreon: 166-198 (90.7 - 108.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO 252 SpA Life Orb Blaziken Flamethrower vs. 100 HP / 252+ SpD Umbreon: 55-66 (30 - 36%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery A higher HP also gives you a higher leftovers number. If you run 252 hp, you will receive 12 hp per turn from leftovers, while 100 hp evs will only give you 11 hp per turn. So when you're taking more damage from attacks and getting less passive recovery, it is surely a worse spread. Richardn, AshisCatchin, Maelstrom and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Maelstrom Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Oh, I did it wrong this whole time. Link to comment
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