KoolT93 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 On 16/4/2017 at 7:34 PM, TheChampionMike said: Which I don't think would be a smart decision as we have no mega stones or z-crystals to counter knock off. Lol you aint running sticky hold muk smh, it works ask @Aerun Elliasal and Aerun 2 Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 46 minutes ago, KoolT93 said: Lol you aint running sticky hold muk smh, it works ask @Aerun Sticky hold is counterproductive vs knock off. Just means that knock off will be boosted damage every time (97.5) LifeStyle 1 Link to comment
Munya Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, BurntZebra said: Sticky hold is counterproductive vs knock off. Just means that knock off will be boosted damage every time (97.5) Ouch if thats true, was not aware. Is it the same with megastones, do they receive boosted damage every time? If not, thats silly. Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 20 minutes ago, Munya said: Ouch if thats true, was not aware. Is it the same with megastones, do they receive boosted damage every time? If not, thats silly. Nah, mega stones and I think like the plates for arceus or random orbs for various legendaries don't boost the damage of knock off. Link to comment
Gunthug Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Saying that mega stones And z crystals counter knock off is a huge stretch anyway. Gen 6 knock off is just cancer and I don't think it's a good addition to any meta, especially not ours haha LifeStyle 1 Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, Gunthug said: Saying that mega stones And z crystals counter knock off is a huge stretch anyway. Gen 6 knock off is just cancer and I don't think it's a good addition to any meta, especially not ours haha I feel like knock off is pretty manageable in SM ou now, since most teams will have one mega slot and one z move slot as well, and something like tangrowth which can afford to get knocked off by bisharp or something Link to comment
suigin Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 SM OU also has a ton more viable fairies that don't explode vs Bisharp like the Tapus, while ORAS only had Azumarill who still got hurt a lot by losing its item. But yeah MMO doesn't have Z-Items or mega stones and buffing knock off would just buff the already powerful fighting types even more as they'd get some really sweet coverage with that buffed knock off, while the only dark types that would get buffed are Absol, Weavile, Bisharp and Crawdaunt who all will still mostly get walled by steel types except maybe Crawdaunt. gbwead 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Did I win the most desired comp shiny of the new meta? Let's hope aqua jet pops up on the learned moves list whenever it actually happens. Link to comment
DoctorPBC Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, DoubleJ said: Did I win the most desired comp shiny of the new meta? Let's hope aqua jet pops up on the learned moves list whenever it actually happens. no Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, DoctorPBC said: no Gonna win the pilo Friday night so I can wait for ice shard too Link to comment
DoctorPBC Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, DoubleJ said: Gonna win the pilo Friday night so I can wait for ice shard too you missed out on that shiny kingdra fam DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, DoctorPBC said: you missed out on that shiny kingdra fam Life intervenes. Can't repeat for that poliwrath Friday either. Link to comment
Elliasal Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Excellent, forget about trick room everyone, that won't threaten anything you are all planning on running when gen 5 comes out. Link to comment
suigin Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 oh yeah the lack of team preview makes trick room teams slightly less obvious DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
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