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"Rent a Comp" Suggestion

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Introduction:

First of all, I think we can all agree on the fact that it is very time consuming getting into competetive battling if you are a new player starting from scratch.

Second, I believe we can also agree that for the majority of people PvP is the only real option if they want to enjoy this game longer than the few hours it takes to complete the storyline. And while I am aware of the fact that there are also players who enjoy shiny hunting or breeding or battle frontier and don't like PvP, I'm pretty sure that's not much of enjoyment for the average player.

When I orginally started playing this game, I convinced a couple of friends (I believe we were 8 people, if I remember correctly) to play PokeMMO. All of them were Pokemon fans and we all were interested in joining the PvP community. Eventually, all of them except me and my girlfirend stopped playing the game after they realised how time consuming it was getting into competetive gameplay. The time between the moment you finished the storyline until you can finally start your first serious PvP battle is just too long to be fun, in my opinion. First, you have to spend a lot of time becoming familiar with all the game mechanics which are different from the original games (e.g. breeding, berries, tier lists, later gen battle mechanics). After this you can start building your first team and it's not like you could use some of your storyline Pokemon, no you have to start from the very beginning. Grinding money, catching wilds, breeding, EV training, grinding Battle Points,... and all of this at least times six. In most situation all of this will take even longer because you will be doing some newb mistakes everyone of us has done... It's just so many hours you have to spend grinding until you can finally have fun. Oh and it's not like it's done once you're through this, no, you will most likely get wrecked because your first team sucks because you're still a noob and aren't yet familiar with the meta... So you'll have to start all over again.

 

Well, that was quite a lengthy introduction, but here is my suggestion:

 

1.) Rent a Pokemon from NPCs:

Create NPCs who offer you to rent a Pokemon after you beat E4 in both regions. They offer some of the most common mons of each category and each tier. Categories would be "Special Wall", "Physical Sweeper" and so on. IVs should be by no means perfect but something like 15/15/15/15/15/31, so they are worse than average selfmade comps. They should come at level 50 with a good EV spread and with a common moveset but without any items. A player can rent a maximum of 3 Pokemon at the same time (so he/she can't build a complete team only with rented mons). Renting a Pokemon will cost for example 10k per 24 hours and has to be payed in advance (I know that's not much, but it should be affordable for new players to rent two or three mons for a few days after all). Rented Pokemon can't be used for breeding, don't count for your Pokedex, can't be traded, sold, released ... etc. Rented Pokemon will be automatically returned after the days you've payed for, so you will always have to have at least one own Pokemon in your team. I also think it would be a good idea to change the offered Pokemon every ~ 2 weeks or so to have little bit of variety.

 

Here are some OU examples:

Special Sweeper: Jolteon (HP Ice, Thunderbolt), Espeon (Psychic, Signal Beam)

Physical Sweeper: Flygon (Dragon Claw, Earthquake), Gyrados (Dragon Dance, Waterfall)

Physical Walls, Skarmory (Spikes, Whirlwind), Weezing (Pain Split, Will-O-Whisp)

Special Walls: Chansey (Counter, Seismic Toss), Umbreon (Wish, Protect)

 

2.) Rent a Pokemon from other Players:

This could be a new feature of the GTL. It's basically working the same way as renting Pokemon from NPCs but the player who offers his Pokemon can decide the price per day and the minimum or maximum number of days. Movesets can be changed but after the mon is returned to it's owner, the moveset changes back to how it originally was. The rules for these Pokemon are more or less the same as the ones rented from NPCs with the addition that they can not be renamed (so the owner can leave his/her own little "signature" which is visible in battles if he/she wants to). A player can't offer more than 2 Pokemon at the same time. Offering a Pokemon in the GTL will include a small fee and there will by a cooldown before being able to offer it again.

 

Advantages of such a feature:

  • New players can much easier try PvP for the first time
  • New players will get an idea of the some of the most common Pokemon and movesets
  • New players can experiment a litte to see which Pokemon fit best for them without risking to much
  • More experienced players can also try out something new ("I always wondered if a Milotic could be a good addition for my team, let's try it!")
  • You can more easily try out a new tier you've never played before.
  • Renting from NPCs is another money sink but it's optional. Nobody is forced to use it.
  • A new way for breeders to generate a steady income with their breeds.
  • Ulitmately I strongly believe this will lead to a much more active PvP community and an overall increase of new players getting into competetive battling!
Edited by Envinyata

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Bishav   

Renting pokemon from other players seems like a fine idea. It opens up a lot of new opportunities for players who don't have the time to grind for comps.

A mailbox dedicated to such pokemon would be neat.

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If I'm understanding this correctly it'd be like a timed rental system which could be good even outside of GTL.  I often get asked by teammates and friends to borrow poke and then they may be gone for a month or two (never had anyone steal from me,life happens and eventually I get my poke back). But sometimes this is inconvenient because then I suddenly need that poke back for what ever reason and have no way of getting it back until they return.  If we could set some kind of automatic timer that sends poke back I think this could prevent a lot of problems, even EV training services in which people get scammed sometimes.  I think having the option to let people borrow on a timer for no cost should be an option as well.

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Rendiz   
8 hours ago, Envinyata said:

my girlfirend

Is she single?

 

I'm pretty sure we have had this suggestion before and I can't remember if staff even replied but if there is a way to make money by afking and loaning out my comps then I'm all for it.

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1 hour ago, Rendiz said:

Is she single?

 

I'm pretty sure we have had this suggestion before and I can't remember if staff even replied but if there is a way to make money by afking and loaning out my comps then I'm all for it.

Scouts tho, unless you rent out the useless stuff you never use like I probably would, but then again would anybody even pick those up?

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NikhilR   

I was thinking about its purpose in officials. Like you pay a certain fee and an NPC will create a comp of your choice with the desired nature, ivs, moves etc and that comp lasts with you till the tournament is over or you get knocked out.

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2 hours ago, NikhilR said:

I was thinking about its purpose in officials. Like you pay a certain fee and an NPC will create a comp of your choice with the desired nature, ivs, moves etc and that comp lasts with you till the tournament is over or you get knocked out.

I think your idea serves a different purpose than what I posted, or more specifically, it's targeted towards a different group of players.

My suggestion is mainly to help newer players getting started and older players to try out something new but without decreasing the value of own comps. Allowing individually created "perfect" comps to be rented may be an effective money sink but I believe it would devaluate player-owned comps and it also would mean that rich players are basically able to play PokeMMO like a battle-simulator (i.e. Showdown) and I don't think that's the idea behind MMOs where character progression should be the main goal.

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Renting out your pokes for cash would be amazing. Its a new way for breeders to make money. Im one of those people who doesn't pvp and just makes pokes for others to use.... Yeh im sad :(

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There's a little machine at the slots to the far bottom right that has no purpose. Take that machine put it beside every pc in poke centers and have it be a little build your own   rent-a-comp vending machine ( just because I think it would look cool ). Also a way I thought of could work to make sure the pokemon gets returned is in order to perform the purchase you have to give the machine a poke ( any poke ), after the allotted time is up if the player is not in a battle the 2 are automatically switched out. Also for future reference the machine could have a memory function that saves any previous build you made so you don't have to remake it.

 

Edit: sorry if anyone had similar ideas I didn't read the comments.

Edited by epicdavenport

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