Rozennia Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 One of the things I have particularly excited for is the introduction to Mega Evolution, If infact the developers plan on going that far even. However, although most mega evolution pokemon exist in generation 3, (generation 3 consist of all pokemon implemented prior to its release, so generation 2 pokemon are included in generation 3), mega evolution just can't happen until generation 5 pokemon at least are implemented. Mega evolutions would just to be overpowered compared to all other pokemon by far. In the generation prior to generation 4, more useful moves and abilities were introduced. Using Absol as an example, In generation 3, Absol was pretty useless competitively. Not having access to good STAB moves and coverage really lagged Absol behind. But when generation 4 was introduced, it gained access to Night Slash, as well as very good coverage moves such as Psycho Cut, and Sucker Punch. (a priority move that only succeeds if the opponent uses an attack) Not only the moves, but an extra ability was added as well. Super Luck permanently increases Critical hit ratio by 1 stage. Combine that Night Slash and Psycho Cut, both moves having a high critical hit ratio to, and give Absol a Scope Lens or a Razor Claw. Now absol will almost always hit critical hits, only in gen 4 - gen 5. (The way critical hits work changed in generation 6, and is what you see in PokeMMO despite being a generation 3 knockoff.) But all of this changes if mega evolutions were to be implemented before generation 5. (Since over the generations, base stat total gradually became higher and higher.) If the developers implement mega's before hand, things would be insanely unbalanced. Mega Mawile for example, gains 100 more points in its base defense, like all mega's, and its base attack changes from 85 to 105. This might not seem like much, but it is its ability that makes it an Uber tier pokemon according to Smogons standards. Upon mega evolving in battle, it gains the ability Huge Power. This ability doubles the attack stat of a pokemon. So basicly, Mega Mawile's base attack is actually 210. This stat is crazy compared to PokeMMO standards. The only thing holding Mega Mawile back from destroying the Pokemon VGC, is its terrible speed stat. Being base 50, but with a base defense of 125, it can still survive hits quite well, which is why i am bringing this up. Even though a lot of people want mega evolutions, it would essentially break the competitive side of PokeMMO. The game is just not ready for megas yet, and even if they did implement them, the developers would very likely nerf a lot of stats and abilities that make mega pokemon what they are. So in conclusion, don't expect the developers to implement mega evolutions any time soon. We here on PokeMMO are not ready for it. Anyways, thanks for reading, Happy gaming! :3 Espeon101, ShadowGary and londark 3 Link to comment
notmudkip0 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Just now, Rozennia said: One of the things I have particularly excited for is the introduction to Mega Evolution, If infact the developers plan on going that far even. However, although most mega evolution pokemon exist in generation 3, (generation 3 consist of all pokemon implemented prior to its release, so generation 2 pokemon are included in generation 3), mega evolution just can't happen until generation 5 pokemon at least are implemented. Mega evolutions would just to be overpowered compared to all other pokemon by far. In the generation prior to generation 4, more useful moves and abilities were introduced. Using Absol as an example, In generation 3, Absol was pretty useless competitively. Not having access to good STAB moves and coverage really lagged Absol behind. But when generation 4 was introduced, it gained access to Night Slash, as well as very good coverage moves such as Psycho Cut, and Sucker Punch. (a priority move that only succeeds if the opponent uses an attack) Not only the moves, but an extra ability was added as well. Super Luck permanently increases Critical hit ratio by 1 stage. Combine that Night Slash and Psycho Cut, both moves having a high critical hit ratio to, and give Absol a Scope Lens or a Razor Claw. Now absol will almost always hit critical hits, only in gen 4 - gen 5. (The way critical hits work changed in generation 6, and is what you see in PokeMMO despite being a generation 3 knockoff.) But all of this changes if mega evolutions were to be implemented before generation 5. (Since over the generations, base stat total gradually became higher and higher.) If the developers implement mega's before hand, things would be insanely unbalanced. Mega Mawile for example, gains 100 more points in its base defense, like all mega's, and its base attack changes from 85 to 105. This might not seem like much, but it is its ability that makes it an Uber tier pokemon according to Smogons standards. Upon mega evolving in battle, it gains the ability Huge Power. This ability doubles the attack stat of a pokemon. So basicly, Mega Mawile's base attack is actually 210. This stat is crazy compared to PokeMMO standards. The only thing holding Mega Mawile back from destroying the Pokemon VGC, is its terrible speed stat. Being base 50, but with a base defense of 125, it can still survive hits quite well, which is why i am bringing this up. Even though a lot of people want mega evolutions, it would essentially break the competitive side of PokeMMO. The game is just not ready for megas yet, and even if they did implement them, the developers would very likely nerf a lot of stats and abilities that make mega pokemon what they are. So in conclusion, don't expect the developers to implement mega evolutions any time soon. We here on PokeMMO are not ready for it. Anyways, thanks for reading, Happy gaming! :3 You're thinking REALLY far ahead holy shit Link to comment
Torinnnnn Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 saw this was a lot of reading and passed on it all Exeggutor and FuzzyRegirock 2 Link to comment
Rozennia Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 Just now, notmudkip0 said: You're thinking REALLY far ahead holy shit Haha. Im just think big a lot of the time. :3 Just now, Nobarsmcgee said: saw this was a lot of reading and passed on it all Could be good for your sanity. Don't read it if you don't want your mind blown by mega mawile's base attack. :3 Link to comment
NiceRice Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 problem is, we won't have the roms to do so Link to comment
Vuxlum Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 We have the ROM's just not the emulator. Link to comment
Rozennia Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 Its possible to get access to just mega evolution. Just look at Pokemon Showdown. It doesn't need any roms to get the mega evolution models. At least I don't think... Link to comment
JoyOfSatan Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, Nobarsmcgee said: saw this was a lot of reading and passed on it all same tho Link to comment
Torinnnnn Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Just now, Rozennia said: Its possible to get access to just mega evolution. Just look at Pokemon Showdown. It doesn't need any roms to get the mega evolution models. At least I don't think... lmao this game is 1000% more complex than showdown Link to comment
Rozennia Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 Just now, Vuxlum said: We have the ROM's just not the emulator. To be honest, how do we actually know these said "Roms" aren't scams? If no emulator exist to emulate said rom, there isn't much proof it is functional. Link to comment
Torinnnnn Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Just now, Rozennia said: To be honest, how do we actually know these said "Roms" aren't scams? If no emulator exist to emulate said rom, there isn't much proof it is functional. lmao scams? plz explain Link to comment
Vuxlum Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Just now, Rozennia said: To be honest, how do we actually know these said "Roms" aren't scams? If no emulator exist to emulate said rom, there isn't much proof it is functional. Well if you look it up there is an emulator for DS but it's experimental and they do work but are very very buggy. That's how I know. Link to comment
Hassy Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I'm looking forward to mega evolution, thanks for the suggestion. Rozennia 1 Link to comment
DiDi Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Just now, Nobarsmcgee said: lmao scams? plz explain they're scamming time from our lives. we've all been scammed =/ Vuxlum 1 Link to comment
Torinnnnn Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 it took 5 years to get milo and you honestly dont wanna be playing pokemon still by the time they add megas Hassy and NiceRice 2 Link to comment
Rozennia Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Nobarsmcgee said: lmao this game is 1000% more complex than showdown True, but my reasoning for bringing the topic up was mainly about the mega evolutions themselves. Since only 1 mega evolution is based off of gen 6, all the other ones being from gen 1 - 5, its possible to hardcode mega evolutions in. Vuxlum 1 Link to comment
MysteryGoldenFox Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Just add Johto region and we'll all happy!!!!!! NiceRice and Rozennia 2 Link to comment
notmudkip0 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Rozennia said: To be honest, how do we actually know these said "Roms" aren't scams? If no emulator exist to emulate said rom, there isn't much proof it is functional. Um, Citra emulator? Link to comment
Vuxlum Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 @notmudkip0, That's the emulator I was talking about. Anyway I'm getting off the topic of emulators that's not what the post is for. Link to comment
Rozennia Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Nobarsmcgee said: it took 5 years to get milo and you honestly dont wanna be playing pokemon still by the time they add megas I am a Pokemon fan by heart. Age doesn't matter when playing pokemon. Many people from all ages play it. Just look at some popular YouTubers that upload pokemon related content. Some are as old as 26 possibly. Vuxlum 1 Link to comment
Rozennia Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, notmudkip0 said: Um, Citra emulator? The issue with that is the last time I checked, it could not run cannon games. To be honest, I don't even know how legit that "emulator" actually is if it can't emulate what it is said to. Link to comment
notmudkip0 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Just now, Rozennia said: The issue with that is the last time I checked, it could not run cannon games. To be honest, I don't even know how legit that "emulator" actually is if it can't emulate what it is said to. It works, just horribly. Rozennia 1 Link to comment
Rozennia Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 Just now, notmudkip0 said: It works, just horribly. Hmm... Alright, I'll take your word for it. Im just too lazy to search that stuff up rn. Plus even if i did, I don't have a reason to use it because I currently own 2 3ds systems and 3 3ds pokemon games for it. Link to comment
Cyrillic Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 It's that right now PokeMMO isn't even in the stage for gen 4. The devs would have to be able to mix or use an emulator that allows you to play FireRed, Emerald, AND the gen 4 games while all of the games are interconnected. And they haven't even finished animations for battles. I read everything and it all makes sense and it cool, but I'm personally not seeing the reason for the thread? Link to comment
Cosmicplasma Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, notmudkip0 said: It works, just horribly. rlly its works super good to me ,-, Link to comment
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