Elite Four Guide - Kanto & Hoenn

[ShadowGary]

I'll take your page king without delivering any help what so ever.

[Risadex]

so 2 more combinations for bruno confirmed.. (the one with ursa & the one with kanga w/o steelix) I wonder how many team possibilies it have...

[KaynineXL]

More sets to add later -

 

Round 3

Agatha

Muk(cb) - Tpunch, ice punch, return, shadow punch
Umbreon - Pursuit
Gyarados(orb) - Wfall, crunch, eq
gengar(scarf) - sball, tbolt
Marowak(thick club) - Tpunch
Arbok(lefties) - Crunch, EQ

 

Lance

Arcanine - Espeed
Snorlax - Selfdestruct
Steelix(cb) - EQ
Dragonite(lefties) - Light screen, Dragon claw
Altaria - Dclaw
Ttar(lefties) - Pursuit, Ice beam

 

Rival

Pidgeot
gyarados(CB, jolly max speed) - EQ

[KaynineXL]

Oh god.. I only just realised it's Elite Four, not Elite 4. I always knew Elite 4 looked weird. Since I spotted it, it triggered me so I changed all that. Also added a sweet new banner. 

 

@ShadowGary@Eggplant@znk26Looking fine as always if I do say so myself.

[KatheFoster]

Best banner ever.

[KaynineXL]

5 minutes ago, MadameFoster said:

Best banner ever.

Yeh, banners that have that cute character of Yubels is just irresistible, right?

[KaynineXL]

Added Round 2 Lorelei, added Round 3 Lorelei with all her teams.

 

...Then my spoilers broke and I'v tried for about an hour to fix them :(

Edited July 30, 2016 by KaynineXL

[hexer123]

Oh yeesh....you leave this game for 4 years only to comeback and see the E4 has turned into stuff of nightmares.....although this guide looks great so far all it needs is for the last bits of info to be filled in but im defiantly going to use it once im in shape for those round three fights

[Vanozz]

So to beat the elite 4 u are gonna need a really good team, at least for round 2 and the ohers, so im gonna get stuck in this round forever T-T

Btw nice guide!

[Iolxd]

Thanks for the guide.

[AbdOuMarley]

Lorelei's Team 5:  lapras last move is sleep talk

[KaynineXL]

16 hours ago, Vanozz said:

So to beat the elite 4 u are gonna need a really good team, at least for round 2 and the ohers, so im gonna get stuck in this round forever T-T

Btw nice guide!

Well, once we fill in a lot of the gaps I'l start figuring out what Pokemon would be valuable to bring. Once we're at that stage I'm hoping it would be as easy as level up some 100s and sweep for days :>

5 hours ago, AbdOuMarley said:

Lorelei's Team 5:  lapras last move is sleep talk

Thanks

 

 

edit: remind myself to add this later ^^^

Edited July 31, 2016 by KaynineXL

[KaynineXL]

• Updated Lorelei's teams
• Added Bruno's teams
• Added Agatha's teams
• Added Lance's teams
• Minimal start on Blue's teams

 

Still need to fill in the missing gaps on the above. I need to finish up round 1/2(with levels). Hoenn will be started once Kanto is written.

[tami9518]

3 hours ago, KaynineXL said:

• Updated Lorelei's teams
• Added Bruno's teams
• Added Agatha's teams
• Added Lance's teams
• Minimal start on Blue's teams

 

Still need to fill in the missing gaps on the above. I need to finish up round 1/2(with levels). Hoenn will be started once Kanto is written.

i really preciate your work , greetings from argentina

[fredrichnietze]

requesting this be renamed "how to beat the elite four for dummies"

 

 

 

[Linken]

any team recommendatios for a round 3 run?

[KaynineXL]

1 hour ago, Linken said:

any team recommendatios for a round 3 run?

Not right now, round 3 teams still need a bit of work.

 

Personally, for me I'v had Vaporeon do well, surf+ice beam+wish+prot one. I think DD pokes do good like ttar, mence, dnite etc. Gengar/Starmie are good choices, Jolteon also. Heracross can be great, CB and scarf. For the most part, the OP banned stuff will often do great. I'v not tried it, but I think a highly invested atk + sp def lax would also do good.

[KaynineXL]

So I'v had to remove the spoilers containing the picture form of the movesets since I didn't expect so many teams and I'm sure I won't be able to fit so many spoilers/pictures all in one post. I was considering removing them anyway because when doing minor editing to movesets it's a bit of an hassle keep taking new pics and adding them as well as editing the written form.

 

I'v also retook all the pictures of the teams, they are renamed so they're a little more clear to see which team they are. I also reordered them to match how the teams written down are ordered. For example:  Instead of Team 3 -> Team 2 -> Team 1, it now goes Team 1 -> Team 2 -> Team 3.

Hopefully you lot can read it easier now.

 

Team 2 Lorelei:

Based on calcs, I'm pretty sure the Lapras is 252 hp, sp def Careful or somewhere close to that.

 

Team 2 Bruno:

Added ice punch to Machamp

 

Added a new team for Agatha(team 4).

Gengar, based on how it was played/calcs I'm giving a firm guess that's scarf but I'm not 100% on that.

Edited August 3, 2016 by KaynineXL

[cicekholdings]

So I made it to Rival in lvl 100 mode by using;

 

5x31 timid alak 

4x31 bold blissey

4x31 + 1x30 HP Ice Timid Jolteon

5x31 adamant blaziken

4x31 bold vaporeon - wish

decent Modest Starmie 

 

* all lvl 100 duh *

 

I used bunch of revives but I made couple of mistakes .... I am hoping to clear within the next 3-5 tries.

 

[Crazyhell]

Agatha round 3 team

This fucking venusor have hp ice 

[Toast]

is this organized enough for you

 

team 2 lorelei
magneton life orb

--

team 3 bruno
machamp thunderpunch

steelix iron tail, earthquake

kangaskhan, return

blastoise water spout - possible modest specs

--
team 3 agatha
misdreavus lefties, shadow ball
venusaur
umbreon lefties, return
alakazam
gengar

--
lance
ampharos lefties, thunder (probably 252hp 252sdef calm, +5 ice beam bliss did less than 50%)
lapras life ball, hydro pump, ice beam
flygon choice band, superpower, dragon claw
kingdra life ball, surf
dragonite less than 243speed, superpower
gyarados life orb, ice beam, thunder

--
blue - 4 full restores
nidoqueen lefties, sludge  bomb
poliwrath salac berry, return (possible belly drum) +spd nature, outspeeds starmie
magmar
sandslash
skarmory lefties, drill peck
blastoise (bulky as shit, 252hp 252sdef calm, calced), surf

 

-------------------

second run!

-------------------------------------------------------
team 1 lorelei
fearow choice band, double edge
lapras, waterfall
claydol, last move ice beam
exeggutor, low kick
magneton, thunderbolt
dewgong life orb, blizzard

--

team 1 bruno
exeggutor, giga drain, psychic
granbull, superpower, crunch
machamp, cross chop
clefable
hariyama
rhydon

--
agatha
houndoom
gengar
venusaur

Edited August 9, 2016 by Toast

[eagle]

Lance's team 5

Dragonite

Kingdra

Ampharos

Gyarados

Lapras

Flygon

( lv100 )

[Nikthemiracle]

Hoenn Round 1 (After storyline first round) and in brackets is level of pokemon in Round 2 and Round 3, cause pokemon were the same:

 

Sidney:

Cacturne LV61 (LV67-76) ---- Superpower

Sharpedo LV61 (LV67-76)
Absol LV61 (LV67-76)
Mightyena LV61 (LV67-76) ---- Super Fang
Crawdaunt LV61  (LV67-76) ---- Crunch
Shiftry LV61 (LV67-76) ---- Areal Ace

 

Phoebe:

Banette LV61 (LV67-76) ---- Return
Dusclops LV63 (LV69-76) ---- Seismic Toss
Shedinja LV61 (LV67-76) ---- Return, Thief
Misdreavus LV61 (LV67-76)
Sableye Lv62 (LV68-76) ---- Shadow Ball
Ninetales LV61 (LV67-76) ---- Flamethrower, Solarbeam

 

Glacia:
-Full restore x2

Vaporeon LV62 (LV68-76) (Leftovers) ---- Surf
Blissey LV64 (LV70-76) (Leftovers) ---- Seismic Toss
Glalie LV62 (LV68-76) (Sitrus Berry) ---- Super Fang, Crunch, Ice Beam
Walrein LV65 (LV71-77) ---- Waterfall, Return
Persian LV63 (LV69-76) ---- Bite, Double Edge
Mantine LV63 (LV69-76) ---- Surf

 

Drake:
-Full restore x2

Ampharos LV65 (LV71-77)
Salamence LV67 (LV73-79) ---- Dragon Claw, Earthquake
Sceptile LV65 (LV71-77) (Life Ball) ---- Thunder Punch, Dragon Claw, Leaf Blade, Earthquake
Kingdra LV64 (LV70-76) ---- Surf
Flygon LV64 (LV70-76) ---- Earthquake
Altaria LV66 (LV72-78) ---- Dragon Claw


Wallace:
-Full restore x4

Tentacruel LV67 (LV73-79)
Milotic LV70 (LV76-82) ---- Ice Beam, Surf
Whiscash LV67 (LV73-79) ---- Earthquake, Waterfall
Gyarados LV68 (LV74-80) ---- Crunch
Wailord LV69 (LV75-81) ---- Water Spout, Ice Beam
Ludicolo LV68 (LV74-80) ---- Surf

Edited January 29, 2017 by Nikthemiracle
Update xD

[NlK]

Alright, so, if we count first E4 run after storyline as Round 1, even though in Fire Red you have 2 storyline E4 runs, if second one is called Round 1, then this is Kanto Round 2( and 3 in the brackets) info:

Lorelei:
Full Restore x2

Cloyster LV71 (LV82)
Piloswine LV71 (LV82) ---- Earthquake
Slowbro LV71 (LV82) ---- Surf
Jynx LV71 (LV82) ---- Ice Beam
Lapras LV72 (LV82) ---- Psychic, Surf
Dewgong LV72 (LV82) (Leftovers) ---- Surf, Ice Beam


Bruno:
Full Restore x2

Steelix LV72 (LV82) ---- Crunch, Iron Tail
Machamp LV74 (LV82) ---- Ice Punch
Hitmonlee LV71 (LV82) ---- Superpower
Hariyama LV73 (LV82) ---- Superpower, Ice Punch
Hitmontop LV72 (LV82) ---- Earthquake, Thief
Hitmonchan LV71 (LV82) ---- Ice Punch


Agatha:
Full Restore x1+

Gengar LV76 (LV82) (Life Ball) ---- Sludge Bomb, Shadow Ball
Alakazam LV73 (LV82) ---- Signal Beam, Psychic
Arbok LV74 (LV82) (Sitrus Berry) ---- Earthquake
Misreavus LV72 (LV82) (Shell Bell) ---- Shadow Ball
Crobat LV72 (LV82) (Life Orb) ---- Areal Ace, Sludge Bomb
Muk LV73 (LV83) ---- Ice Punch

 

 

Lance:
Full Restore x2

Aerodactyl LV76 (LV82) ---- Rock Slide
Gyarados LV76 (LV82) ---- Waterfall
Dragonite LV78 (LV83) ---- Dragon Claw, Extremespeed, Superpower
Kingdra LV77 (LV83) ---- Waterfall, Outrage
Altaria LV75 (LV82) ---- Dragonbreath, Ice Beam
Charizard LV75 (LV82) ---- Thunder Punch

 

 

Rival:
Full Restore x4

Tyranitar LV78 (LV84) ---- Rock Slide, Earthquake, Crunch
Exeggutor LV79 (LV85) (Life Orb) ---- Giga Drain
Blastoies LV81 (LV87) ---- Water Spout, Ice Beam
Alakazam LV80 (LV86) ---- Psychic
Heracross LV78 (LV84) ---- Earthquake, Brick Break, Megahorn
Arcanine LV79 (LV85) ---- Crunch, Extremespeed

Edited February 1, 2017 by NlK
Update zz

[suigin]

Bruno's Lefties Ice Punch machamp in round 3 is Restalk with Cross Chop

Edited February 14, 2017 by suigin