Bestfriends Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) Evolution Reversion When I saw a player discussing Chansey, it sparked an idea in my head. I would like to purpose a plan that gives players the chance to reverse their evolutions, but not be too easy. I was thinking that the player should pay 250k + Everstone in order to do this reversion. Due to an economic concern that Lazaaro has pointed out, shinies will not be allowed to devolve. I would also like to thank Rigamorty, Kouteshi, Raederz, and TheChampionMike for mentioning the stone evolutions. So far, stone evolutions, trade evolutions, and shinies will not be allowed to go through this process. I am also going to credit TheChampionMike for advising me for a price drop from 400k to 250k. Lastly, thanks to concerns brought up by TheChampionMike, I would like this feature to have a black list of pokemon who are unable to go through this process like Eevee and Magicarp as examples. I had some NPCs I would like to show that can do the job for Kanto and Hoenn (I'll call them candidates). Kanto Candidate 1 = Spoiler Reasoning for Candidate 1 = Located in the Celadon Hotel, I think this place needs more attention. This elderly lady might know a thing or two about how to devolve pokemon. I mean, who would not trust a sweet old lady to do the job? Candidate 2 = Spoiler Reasoning for Candidate 2 = Located in the Cinnabar Laboratory, this guy is a scientist just waiting for potential. He came up with the Reverse Evolution Theorem and he is waiting to test it out. Would you like to be his subject? Candidate 3 = Spoiler Reasoning for Candidate 3 = Located at the top of Pewter City's Museum, this scientist specialises in the past. He has mastered the art of devolution and is willing to test out his skills. Would you like to feel the past? Candidate 4 = Spoiler Reasoning for Candidate 4 = None other than Dr. Fuji himself which is located in Lavander Town. He expresses his love of pokemon and would like to express his ability to devolve a pokemon. In his house, he had a Golduck, but used his powers to devolve it into a Psyduck to make it more friendly towards the children in his house. Would you be willing to let Dr. Fuji devolve your pokemon through love and care? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hoenn Candidate 1 = Spoiler Reasoning for Candidate 1 = Located in the Slateport Warehouse, he looks like a scientist with a big devise. Last time, he told me that he is waiting for the PokeMMO developers to let this device go into use. He calls it the Pokemon Devolver 101. All he needs for the machine to work is some cash and an everstone and toda, the pokemon has devolved! Candidate 2 = Spoiler Reasoning for Candidate 2 = Located in the Mossdeep Space Center, this scientist has the skill to devolve pokemon. He is still testing his skills out, do you want to help him hone his skills of devolution? Candidate 3 = Spoiler Reasoning for Candidate 3 = Located in Rustboro's Devo Corp, he is right below the fossil resurrecter. He specialises in the art of devolution, but his laptop is down for the time being. Once the developers reboot his devolution laptop, would you be willing to let him use his laptop on your evolved pokemon? Credit goes to Makota for giving me a new format for these suggestion examples. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would like to say that I cannot tell how many times people want to devolve their Blissy or Meowth. I want to be able to provide an outlet for them to devolve their pokemon, but also make it a bit difficult to devolve so that players can be a little more careful when their pokemon is about to evolve. Edited July 12, 2016 by Pereiraa Denied & Archived. GokuSSGSS and Rendom 2 Link to comment
Laz Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 So if you got an expansive shiny you can just revert it back to its original form without breeding it again, so that's it's more valuable. Apply it to all the shinies, and then rip the economy. What? Link to comment
Bestfriends Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 26 minutes ago, Lazaro23 said: So if you got an expansive shiny you can just revert it back to its original form without breeding it again, so that's it's more valuable. Apply it to all the shinies, and then rip the economy. What? Thank you, I will put a certain clause in my idea that will prevent an economic break down. Link to comment
Rigamorty Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 This simply wouldn't be viable. Eevee evolves into Jolteon. Jolteon learns thunderbolt. Jolteon reverts to Eevee. It's now an Eevee with thunderbolt. Link to comment
Kouteshi Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Rigamorty said: This simply wouldn't be viable. Eevee evolves into Jolteon. Jolteon learns thunderbolt. Jolteon reverts to Eevee. It's now an Eevee with thunderbolt. Don't apply to eevee as well,because it has several evolutions bf Link to comment
Raederz Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Just block it for : Shinies Stone evolution Trade evolution So it will only be used to correct a fail. Good idea :) Bestfriends 1 Link to comment
Crazyhell Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 it's impossible if block for shiny , stone and trade evolution i just say Tyrogue Link to comment
Mike Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I don't think this is ever going to be a thing. Seeing as technically there is already the option to rebreed the pokemon, which surely is cheaper than 400k unless its something crazy like a 5x31. Besides that, this would mean you would have crazy moves on pokemon like eevee. Even if you block stone evolutions you still have umbreon and espeon. And on top of that its your own mistake for letting it evolve isn't it? But that's my opinion on it. notmudkip0 1 Link to comment
Raederz Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Why dont just make an option for free, when the poke just evolved, learn no moves, and did no more fight since he evolved ? Link to comment
Bestfriends Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 6 hours ago, Rigamorty said: This simply wouldn't be viable. Eevee evolves into Jolteon. Jolteon learns thunderbolt. Jolteon reverts to Eevee. It's now an Eevee with thunderbolt. I'll modify my suggestion, you will be credited. 3 hours ago, Kouteshi said: Don't apply to eevee as well,because it has several evolutions bf You will also be credited as well 2 hours ago, Raederz said: Just block it for : Shinies Stone evolution Trade evolution So it will only be used to correct a fail. Good idea :) You will also be credited. 2 hours ago, TheChampionMike said: I don't think this is ever going to be a thing. Seeing as technically there is already the option to rebreed the pokemon, which surely is cheaper than 400k unless its something crazy like a 5x31. Besides that, this would mean you would have crazy moves on pokemon like eevee. Even if you block stone evolutions you still have umbreon and espeon. And on top of that its your own mistake for letting it evolve isn't it? But that's my opinion on it. I am going to knock down the price to 250k. I am also going to credit you for the stone idea. Why not have a pokeblacklist like Eevee or Magikarp? 1 hour ago, Raederz said: Why dont just make an option for free, when the poke just evolved, learn no moves, and did no more fight since he evolved ? I would rather have a price tag on the evolutions so that way this feature is not overused. Link to comment
Torinnnnn Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 just because its an mmo doesnt mean we can have out of the box shit. If you let your poke evolve tough uguu. You cant De-evolve shit lmao frogbussoms and notmudkip0 2 Link to comment
Matoka Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 been request before, it has been denied due to this causing illegal move sets upon devolution, e.g. Breloom learning Focus Punch and then Devolving into Shroomish (who cannot normally learn Focus Punch). This would affect Little Cup in questionable ways. Even if you state "you can just make them forget moves they wouldn't normally learn" then you would have to factor in the possibility of a pokemon where the ONLY move it knows is one that would be illegal causing it to be unable to evolve, the entire thing would be quite conveluded I don't think this is necessary since this is only needed upon a mistake being made, and yes it does suck to make mistakes and you regret them, but you are meant to learn from your mistakes. Also please spoiler your images in your threads, having visual representations of what you are talking about is okay but when it artificially doubles your post's length then it is getting a little out of hand. Link to comment
Bestfriends Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Matoka said: been request before, it has been denied due to this causing illegal move sets upon devolution, e.g. Breloom learning Focus Punch and then Devolving into Shroomish (who cannot normally learn Focus Punch). This would affect Little Cup in questionable ways. Even if you state "you can just make them forget moves they wouldn't normally learn" then you would have to factor in the possibility of a pokemon where the ONLY move it knows is one that would be illegal causing it to be unable to evolve, the entire thing would be quite conveluded I don't think this is necessary since this is only needed upon a mistake being made, and yes it does suck to make mistakes and you regret them, but you are meant to learn from your mistakes. Also please spoiler your images in your threads, having visual representations of what you are talking about is okay but when it artificially doubles your post's length then it is getting a little out of hand. Good morning Matoka, I would like to say that there could be a Pokemon Black list that would prevent any pokemon from taking advantage of this feature. I'll put spoilers in this thread and credit you for the idea. Edited July 11, 2016 by Bestfriends wording change Link to comment
frogbussoms Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 13 hours ago, Nobarsmcgee said: just because its an mmo doesnt mean we can have out of the box shit. If you let your poke evolve tough uguu. You cant De-evolve shit lmao Agree with Nobarsmcgee, this suggestion complete devalues my unevolved poke. Link to comment
Raederz Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) There is not value issue if you just release it as an "anti-fail". No Reversion for caught already evolved. No Reversion after 10 minutes after evolution. No Reversion if moves learned. Just an Anti Fail. I never failed like that, but, regarding how much I can lose, being just inattentive for 15 seconds, I think this option would be cool. Btw, this wont have to be a commercial Evolution Reversion, only an AntiFail. Edited July 11, 2016 by Raederz Bestfriends 1 Link to comment
XelaKebert Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Even with a "blacklist" this type of feature would create illegal movesets with Pokemon that couldn't normally learn them. This has been denied in the past as well for this same reason. Bestfriends and notmudkip0 2 Link to comment
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