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[Ban Announcement] Jynx banned to BL2 (UU)


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Jynx has been dominating NU for a while. A 115 base spatk stat, a 95 base speed stat, 2 valuable stabs and versatile movesets are precisely what a glass cannon like Jynx needs to break everything in its path. Getting a perfect coverage on Jynx is no hard task when you have access to moves like Ice Beam (stab), Psychic (stab), Shadow Ball, Signal Beam and Hidden Power Ground. Beside Sharpedo with its paper defenses and its Signal Beam weakness, there is no Dark type in NU that can resist Ice Beam. Steel types are hardly a problem for Jynx since Steel pokemons usually have bad spdef and take significant dmg from stab moves regardless of their resistance. Beside unviable Metang, Steel types pokemons don’t learn Pursuit. Beside gimmick Mawile with Pain Split, Steel types also have no reliable way to heal themselves. Hidden Power Ground destroys all steel types in NU. As for Psychic types, they take tons of damage from Shadow Ball/Signal Beam. Basically, Jynx seems to have no real counter. 

 

Some would think that Jynx can’t sweep because Fearow/Murkrow can revenge kill it at any time. However, revenge killing Jynx is not that simple. Lovely Kiss gives crazy momentum to Jynx and allows it to protect itself behind Substitute. Revenge killing becomes nearly impossible when that happens. Insomnia Hypno can somehow work, but Shadow Ball/Ice Beam deal severe damage to Hypno because of Life Ball.

 

For these reasons, the Tier Council considers Jynx too much for NU (Offense Uber characteristics) and has decided to ban it to BL2.

 

Movesets:

Spoiler

Item: Life Orb / Leftovers

Ev: 252 spatk | 252 speed | 4 def

Nature: Timid

  • Ice Beam
  • Shadow Ball
  • Substitute
  • Calm Mind

 

Item: Life Orb / Leftovers

Ev: 252 spatk | 252 speed | 4 def

Nature: Timid

  • Ice Beam
  • Shadow Ball / Psychic / Signal Beam / Calm Mind
  • Substitute
  • Lovely Kiss

 

Item: Life Orb

Ev: 252 spatk | 252 speed | 4 def

Nature: Timid

  • Ice Beam
  • Shadow Ball
  • Hidden Power Ground
  • Calm Mind / Lovely Kiss

 

Item: Choice Spec

Ev: 252 spatk | 252 speed | 4 def

Nature: Timid / Modest

  • Ice Beam
  • Shadow Ball / Signal Beam
  • Psychic
  • Hidden Power Ground

 

Calcs: 

Spoiler

+1 252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Grumpig: 112-132 (59.8 - 70.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

+1 252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hypno: 110-130 (57.2 - 67.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

+1 252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Sharpedo: 144-171 (98.6 - 117.1%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

252 SpA Jynx Signal Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Sharpedo: 158-186 (108.2 - 127.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

+1 252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mawile: 75-88 (47.7 - 56%) -- 29.7% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

+1 252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Aggron: 70-83 (39.5 - 46.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Aggron: 184-220 (103.9 - 124.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Metang: 80-96 (47.9 - 57.4%) -- 90.2% chance to 2HKO

 

On 16-6-2016 at 4:50 PM, Leorodo said:

Fake tears+spikes vs its 'switch-ins':

 

252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Ice Beam vs. -2 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hypno: 121-144 (63 - 75%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after 3 layers of Spikes
 
252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Shadow Ball vs. -2 252 HP / 252+ SpD Grumpig: 148-177 (79.1 - 94.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after 3 layers of Spikes
252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Ice Beam vs. -2 252 HP / 252+ SpD Thick Fat Grumpig: 62-74 (33.1 - 39.5%) -- 12.1% chance to 2HKO after 3 layers of Spikes (beats pig 1v1)
 
252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Psychic vs. -2 252 HP / 252+ SpD Flareon: 125-148 (72.6 - 86%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after 3 layers of Spikes (Sassy flareon doesn't have room for quick attack and only does around 25% anyway)
 
252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Ice Beam vs. -2 252 HP / 252+ SpD Kecleon: 118-140 (70.6 - 83.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after 3 layers of Spikes
After kecleon's ability:
252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Ice Beam vs. -2 252 HP / 252+ SpD Kecleon: 58-70 (34.7 - 41.9%) -- 77.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
252 SpA Life Orb Jynx Ice Beam vs. -2 0 HP / 0 SpD Aggron: 136-162 (93.7 - 111.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after 3 layers of Spikes

 

 

-Thanks gbwead for the write-up

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23 minutes ago, LifeStyle said:

And Fearow

I'd give Fearow a little bit longer in the tier, Solrock, Aggron and Golem (especially those first 2) are common enough to take care of it, while Aggron completly taking the momentum away from it.

 

Kingler on the other hand is just a fucking cancer and should get the instant boot along with Jynx... Same for Granbull. And possibly Shark that has only one (very shaky) counter in the entire tier (Poliwrath).

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1 minute ago, RysPicz said:

I'd give Fearow a little bit longer in the tier, Solrock, Aggron and Golem (especially those first 2) are common enough to take care of it, while Aggron completly taking the momentum away from it.

 

Kingler on the other hand is just a fucking cancer and should get the instant boot along with Jynx... Same for Granbull. And possibly Shark that has only one (very shaky) counter in the entire tier (Poliwrath).

Oh forgot Shark lmao, ye that thing just has raping power all over it

Lf Hitmontop to come back

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