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๖Introduction

Welcome to My and Yellow's guide to Comptetitive. I'm actually writing this on mobile and your options for editing in mobile is limited, I'll just edit this in my lappy when I get the chance.

 

Just in case if you don't know, This is my second thread after PokeMMO Forums changed shape.

 

Before we go any further I'll advertise these since they're VERY useful.

Bestfriend's Guide to All Items (ft Noad, KanineXL, Hassan, Lilyek)

GeneralVenican's Guide for Better Alt Run and Gift Pokemons

I didn't really ask permission so I don't know if this is ok...

 

Table Of Contents

Money Run Guide - Yellow

EV Training Guide - Red

EV Training Guide 2 - Yellow

IV Breeding Guide - Yellow

Tiers Guide - Red

Pokemon Roles - Red

 

You found a mistake? Please comment it down or mail to Me or This Guy

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Money Run Guide - Yellow

Hi. There 3 method for Money Run. Sorry for my bad english--

Ok, Ok. I'm gonna fix the grammar and stuffs for you guys. -Red

Hi! I'll be going first. I'll be talking about Money Run. There are 3 methods.

 

1. VS Seeker Method

This method is the most famous method and most used. You can earn 100k per run but you can only do it every 6 hours. So 24 hours a day ÷ 6 hours = 2-4x a day. Which means this method allows you to so 200-400k per day.

 

What you need are:

-VS Seeker (Vermillion PC)

-One or two Lv60-100 pokemon

-Amulet Coin (Route 16, 50 Caught Pokemon needed.

 

Recommended but not recessary:

Lv100 Starmie

Thunderbolt, Surf, Ice Beam, Psychix

 

To Do:

Island 1, 3 (Not Necessary)

Island 5 (Around 15-20k+)

Island 6 (40k)

Island 7 (50k+)

 

2. Item Hunt Method

Do this only if you feel lucky.

 

You Need:

-Lv20-30 Pokemon that knows Thief.

 

Recommended Items To Hunt:

Everstone - Team Magma Hideout - Geodude 5% (20k)

Blue Shard - Underwater Hoenn - Clampearl 5% (10k)

Green Shard - Underwater Hoenn - Relicanth 5% (20k)

Yellow Shard - Underwater Hoenn - Chinchou/Lantern 5% (20k)

Red Shard - Vermillion Super Rod - Corsela 5% (20-30k)

 

3. Payday Method

This method was the most famous one but this is still legit. You need paitience instead of luck.

 

What You Need:

Lv100 Persian w/ Payday

 

Recommended Payday Areas:

Island 4 - Icefall Cave

 

Useful Tips: While waiting for 6 hours money run, You can payday and/or item hunt. You can also try using Persian + Amulet Coin + Payday for the 1st method.

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EV Training 1 - Red - Kanto

Yo! It's my turn now and it's my 4th time typing this. Can't type properly in mobile and other problems and I'm raging while lagging so hard "Fuuuuuu". Ok, While I'm still not lagging, I only placed here the ones I think are easiest to do. Example, You'd only find Tangela in Route 21 in grass so its much easier.

 

HP

Viridian Forest

Caterpie (1)

 

Route 3

Nidoran-F (1)

Jigglypuff (1)

 

Mt. Moon

Clefairy (2)

 

Route 12, 16 (Once Only)

Snorlax (2)

 

Island 4

Wooper (1)

Slowpoke (1)

Marill (2)

 

Atk

Route 22

Mankey

 

Mt. Moon (B1F)

Paras (1) 

 

Rock Tunnel

Machop (1)

Mankey (1)

 

Route 12

Bellsprout (1)

Weepinbell (2)

 

The Famous Fuchsia Pond

Goldeen (1)

Gyarados (2)

Seaking (2)

 

Victory Road

Machop (1)

Machoke (2)

Primape (2) F2 Only

 

Def

Mt. Moon

Geodude (1)

 

Route 21 (Grass Patch)

Tangela (1)

 

Rock Tunnel

Geodude (1)

Onix (1)

Graveler (2)

 

Victory Road

Onix (1)

Geodude (1)

Marowak (2)

 

Sp. Atk

Pokemon Tower

Ghastly (1)

Haunter (2)

 

Sp. Def

Every Part Of Ocean

Tentacool (1)

 

Speed

Route 1

Pidgey (1)

Rattata (1)

 

Viridian Forest

Weedle (1)

Pikachu (2)

 

Altering Cave

Zubat (1)

 

Useful Tips: Use sweet scent while in a tile on where you can find pokemon will let you fight a Horde which can save your time in EV Training. But, Each Sweet Scent cost 5 pp out of 20pp. You can use the PP max. If you have two or more pokemon with Sweet Scent, All of them will share same PP.

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EV Training 2 - Yellow - Hoenn

It's my turn again!

 

HP

Rusturf Tunnel

Whismur (1)

 

Desert Underpass

Whismur (1)

Ditto (2)

Loudred (2)

 

Atk

Route 101

Poochiyena (1)

 

Mt. Pyre (F1-3)

Shuppet (1)

 

Route 118

Carvanha (1)

 

Route 119

Carvanha (1)

 

Route 121

Shuppet (1)

Poochiyena (1)

Mightyena (2)

 

Def

Magma Hideout

Geodude (1)

Graveler (2)

Torkoal (2)

 

Sp. Attack

Route 113

Spinda (1)

 

Sp. Def

All Parts Of Ocean

Tentacool (1)

Tentacruel (2)

 

Route 114

Lotad (1)

Swablu (1)

Lombre (2)

 

Speed

Cave Of Origin

Zubat (1)

 

Meteor Falls (Inner and Inner Surfing)

Golbat (2)

 

Route 118

Zigzagoon (1)

Electrike (1)

Wingull (1)

Linoon (2)

Manectric (2)

 

Macho Brace Location:

The Macho Brace can be obtained from the Winstrate's House on Route 211 right above Mauville.

 

EV Reducing Berries:

- Pomeg Berry lowers HP 
- Kelpsy Berry lowers Attack 
- Qualot Berry lowers Defense 
- Hondew Berry lowers Special Attack 
- Grepa Berry lowers Special Defense 
- Tamato Berry lowers Speed

 

EV Vitamins:

- HP Up raises HP 
- Protein raises Attack 
- Iron raises Defense 
- Calcium raises Special Attack 
- Zinc raises Special Defense 
- Carbos raises Speed

 

EV Calculations:

1 EV + Macho Brace = 2 EVs

2 EVs + Macho Brace = 4 EVs

3 EVs + Macho Brace = 6 EVs

 

Useful Tips: Ditto can be found in the Desert Underpass. Ditto can be used as a handy EV training tool and here is how. First you put the Pokemon you want EV trained in the first slot and a Pokemon who yields 3 EVs in the stat in which you're EV training in your party. Once you have encountered a Ditto switch to the Pokemon who yields 3 EVs, let Ditto transform into that Pokemon, and then KO the Ditto with the Pokemon you're EV training. The Pokemon you're EV Training has now gained 3 easy EVs.

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IV Breeding Guide - Yellow

IV Breeding costs much but it's very essential in competitive besides money. But, IV breeding costs so much but you can either sell it or keep it. Take note that only pokemons in the same egg group can breed.

 

Costs:

1x31 - 10k

1x31 with nature - 10k

2x31 - 20k

2x31 with nature - 40k

3x31 - 60k

3x31 with nature - 90k

4x31 - 140k

4x31 with nature - 320k

5x31 - 300k

5x31 with nature - 850k

6x31 - 620k

6x31 with nature - 2M

 

Braces can help you with confirming IVs. They're only 10k in the daycare in island 4 (The lady).

Example:

Father 31/x/x/x/x/x (HP Brace)

Mother x/x/x/x/x/31 (Speed Brace)

=Baby 31/x/x/x/x/31

 

To get nature, You can use an Everstone.

Example:

Father x/x/x/31/x/31 Hasty (Everstone)

Mother 31/x/x/31/x/31 Adamant (HP Brace)

=Baby 31/x/x/31/x/31 Hasty

 

Useful Tips: Any pokemon can be breed with Ditto. You probably knew that... If both parent's IVs are 31 for example, Both speed are 31, The child will have 31 speed IV as well... You probably knew too...

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Pokemon Roles

We're at the last part now... Oh well! Roles, Everyone has roles! Even pokemon.

 

Lead

Hazard Lead

Hazard Lead sets up hazards to let you have a bit of advantage and breaks down focus band and sturdy to cancel the annoying flail trick.

 

Example:

Skarmory @ Leftovers  
Ability: Sturdy  
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 Spe  
Impish Nature  
- Spikes  
- Whirlwind  
- Roost  
- Metal Claw / Steel Wing

In this example, After you set up spikes, You can either roost or whirlwind up your opponent and keep whirlwinding or use Metal Claw, Skarm's thrustworthy STAB move which can boost your attack by 10% too or Steel Wing which does more damage.

 

Sacrifice Lead

This lead sacrifices itself after setting up the team's power and also boosts their momentum.

 

Example:

Claydol  @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Ability: Levitate  
EVs: 100 HP / 172 Atk / 232 Def / 4 SpD  
Brave Nature  
- Light Screen  
- Reflect  
- Explosion  
- (Any Move)

Claydol can be a great Sacrifice Lead. Also having Levitate that cancels out ground type weakness. First off, you do either Light Screen or Reflect then do the other in the next turn. After doing so, you can either switch or explosion.

 

Sweeper

Physical Sweeper

A sweeper that relies on attack and speed. These sweepers are usually the backbone of the team.

 

Example:

Aerodactyl @ Life Orb  
Ability: Pressure  
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Roost  
- Dragon Claw  
- Fire Fang  
- Rock Slide

In this example, I'll be using my ace. Aerodactyl has a wide movepool. With the addition in making it super fast with high atk, You're going to sweep your opponent. Dragon Claw is a goid move incase of Dragon Types since there's some people who mistake aero as Dragon. Fire Fang are anti Ice Types. Rock Slide is Aerodactyl's thrustworthy STAB move.

 

Special Sweepers

A sweeper that relies on sp. Atk and speed. So called Key to Victory.

 

Example:

Espeon @ Leftovers  
Ability: Synchronize  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 1 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe  
- Calm Mind  
- Psych Up  / Morning Sun
- Psychic  
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

Ill be placing my darling here. Calm Mind to boost your Sp. Atk anx either Psych Up to copy your opponents Stat boost like Agility for example or Morning Sun to heal and Psychic is Esp's trustworthy STAB and HP Fighting incase of Dark Types.

 

Revenge Killers

When your team is about to loose you can always bring out your Revenge Killer. They are deadly avengers with the highest atk and spd stat and perfect for mid-game.

 

Example:

Sceptile @ Leftovers  
Ability: Overgrow  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 1 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 SpD  
- Hidden Power [Ground]  
- Synthesis  
- Giga Drain  
- Leech Seed

In here, I'll use Minun's legendary Spectile. HP Ground is for Anti-Fire types that will stop your sweep. Synthesis to heal, Leech seed for life sap, Giga Drain for life sap.

 

Mixed Sweepers

These sweepers are used to troll your enemy after using calm mind and other to boost their sp.def then attacks them with a physical attack.

 

Example:

Blaziken @ Salac Berry  
Ability: Blaze  
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe  
Hasty Nature  
- Earthquake  
- Thunder Punch  
- Flamethrower  
- Hidden Power [Ice]

I'll be using my main pokemon. Earthquake for anti-Rock, Fire and other types that are oughtta stop your sweep. Thunder Punch for anti-Flying. Flamethrower is Blaze's Thrustworthy STAB. HP Ice for anti-Ground, Flying and more.

 

Wall

These trolls are a huge troll. They can stop the enemy's sweep.

 

Example:

Snorlax @ Leftovers  
Ability: Immunity  
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD  
Impish Nature  
- Body Slam  
- Pursuit / Defense Curl / Curse / Belly Drum
- Rest  
- Sleep Talk

I'm kinda glad they added Snor to OU but kinda not as well. I present you, Snorlax. Body Slam is Snor's almighty STAB with a chance of paralyze. Pursuit for anti Ghost or Defense Curl for more defense or Curse to tank your enemy. Rest and Sleeptalk is Snor's signature combo.

 

Tank

Physical Tank

These tanks does physical damage while being able to recieve a nice amount of moves.

 

Example:

Snorlax @ Leftovers  
Ability: Immunity  
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SpD  
Impish Nature  

- Pursuit / Defense Curl / Curse / Belly Drum
- Rest  
- Sleep Talk

Yes, I know I used Snor for Wall but Snor can be a good tank too. Body Slam is Snor's almighty STAB with a chance of paralyze. Pursuit for anti Ghost or Defense Curl for more defense or Curse to tank your enemy. Rest and Sleeptalk is Snor's signature combo.

 

Special Tank

These Tanks deal special damage while being able to recieve a nice amount of damage.

 

Example:

Gardevoir @ Leftovers  
Ability: Synchronize  
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD  
Modest Nature  
- Calm Mind  
- Psychic  
- Rest  
- Sleep Talk

Yes. I used Gardevoir as Tank. Calm Mind to boost your Sp. Def, Psychic the STAB, rest and sleep talk the combo.

 

 

Wall Breaker

These are Types of Tanks that specializes in breaking walls.

 

Example:

Blaziken @ Life Orb

Abillity: Blaze

Naughty Nature

EVs: 130 Atk / 244 SpA / 136 SpD

- Sky Uppercut / Superpower

- Brave Bird / Thunderpunch / - Earthquake

- Fire Blast / Overheat

- Hidden Power [Grass/Ice]

I'm not too good in Wall Breakers so I'll leave this link here ;3

 

Support

Baton Passers

Baton Pass is banned.

 

Healers

Healers are angels of the team, They heal the team members.

 

Example:

Jolteon @ Salac Berry  
Ability: Volt Absorb  
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
- Wish  
- Heal Bell  
- Protect  
- Thunderbolt

Haha! Healer Jolt! Wish for heal move, Heal Bell to cure ailments, Protect if you're waiting for wish and Thunderbolt the STAB!

 

Stallers

Stallers stall the enemy incase if the enemy only has one wall left that only knows toxic or making the opponent waste PP. Or for something in preperation like future sight.

 

Example:

Steelix @ Leftovers  
Ability: Sturdy  
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def  
Impish Nature  
- Taunt  
- Rest  
- Sleep Talk  
- Earthquake / Rock Slide

Taunt so your enemy can't boost their stats or making them use struggle. Rest and Sleeptalk to heal, Earthquake is a good move. Beware of Flying Types tough or Rock Slide (If steelix can learn it).

 

Statuser

These are annoying thugs that statuses every single pokemon it does while it protects itself. Watch him die of toxic.

 

Example:

Sableye @ Leftovers  
Ability: Keen Eye  
EVs: 248 HP / 200 Def / 60 SpD  
Bold Nature  
- Calm Mind  
- Recover  
- Toxic  
- Substitute

Here's one of Minun's favorite pokemon. Calm Mind to boost Sp. Def and troll your enemy. Recover for heal. Toxic for damage and Substitute for protecting. Sableye has no weakness but beware of steel types.

 

Statser

These pokemons lowers their enemy's stat so they can easily be killed.

 

Example:

Cloyster @ Leftovers  
Ability: Shell Armor  
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA  
Bold Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Screech  
- Leer  
- Spikes  
- Ice Beam

Last but not least! Cloyster. Screech for Sp. Def. Leer for Def. Spikes for hazard and Ice beam for STAB.

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As Noad has stated, it would be cool if you actually took movesets with moves and items which exist in this game. Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock are by far not the only ones which are not in this game. I understand that these movesets show what roles there are and what moves are needed but some guys may be confused when they try to build such pokes for their comp teams and see that their desired items/moves are not available (and hell, there are enough people who ask about gen4+moves every day :D). I welcome every guide with good intentions though as is yours :)

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10 hours ago, Noad said:

Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock are not implemented and Feraligatr is not available in game. 

 

9 hours ago, Gruul said:

As Noad has stated, it would be cool if you actually took movesets with moves and items which exist in this game. Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock are by far not the only ones which are not in this game. I understand that these movesets show what roles there are and what moves are needed but some guys may be confused when they try to build such pokes for their comp teams and see that their desired items/moves are not available (and hell, there are enough people who ask about gen4+moves every day :D). I welcome every guide with good intentions though as is yours :)

I'll go change it. I was just running out of ideas or really rushing but I forgot why.

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Here is a list of things not available there you mentioned.

Roost,Fire Fang, and brave bird is not implemented in this game.

I can suggest adding HP fire to sceptiles move set. I would also remove synthesis and replace that with substitute. It has mediocre stats so doesn't need the instant heal.

 

Plus in the comp section of examples. Everything has the rest + talk combo. Besides the one with taunt it makes it easy to set up on you. 

 

For walls I suggest running toxic on. And another option would be thunder wave.

 

Screech lowers defense greatly -2 not special defence. I think a more standard cloyster set would be 

252hp/252def

HP elec / Surf

Surf / Ice beam

Spikes 

Rapid Spin / Toxic

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