Dear devs

[OrangeManiac]

Why.

 

Why do you have to ruin such a wonderful PvP update. Ranked Matchmaking with seasonal rewards, automated tournaments.. so much wonderful stuff implemented in this update. We waited this for a long time.

 

... And you ruin it with something as tedious as berry farming. EVing, I can live with it. Move setting Pokemon with collecting shards and random items, I can live that as well. All with a goal to create a ready Pokemon that you can use to battle, to dominate the world! (or this community at least). Berries, however is just way over the top especially the ridiculously farm-needing way they have been implemented according to this thread. This is a consumable item you most likely will use one or more every battle you're gonna play. Unless, we're going use Leftovers just to save our economy and that obviously is detrimental to the metagame of PokeMMO. You're basically discouraging us to do the one thing you particularly used effort for in this update.

 

I want you to understand something. No one plays this game for farming. No one. Please prove me wrong.. I honestly want everyone to voice out in this thread if they actually play this game with a primary goal to farm. Why we play this game instead of some "spawn games" is the fact it gives a nice feeling when you used some effort to raise a competitive you're going to battle with. But having to farm just to maintain your ability to battle is too much.

 

I'm basically not feeling to join matchmaking, tournaments, anything because I want to save my berries for "important" occasions. You're discouraging all the wrong things now. If your past farming was getting some people to log in to play the game, this will not. Being discouraged to even use the things (comps) you've been using so much effort for isn't just the greatest idea to make this MMO better. Just my thoughts, have a wonderful day.

[GeneralVenican]

Incoming "its only been 24h" comment. That dosnt matter people, when its bad, its bad. I totally 100% want the berry seller back, but might also have the farming as an addon since its cheaper.

[001]

I like how they post a doubles seasonal, the tier arguably affected most by this change (rip sitrus) a day after the update.

[BlackJovi]

I just wanna know the logic behind this implementation from the devs (post here if they already explained), because I don't get the point.
It's just adding another grind to the grindfest in mmo and making the comp scene kinda harder I guess for your players

[DrCraig]

I like how they post a doubles seasonal, the tier arguably affected most by this change (rip sitrus) a day after the update.

I was about to post this

Doubles is the most berry-reliant tier and it really sucks if you don't have them. Lum, Sitrus, and Petayas are pretty common and needed in bulk as they are often consumed. This update sucks for today's TT and the upcoming seasonal.

 

I'd imagine when we work out the kinks of berry farming it won't be as terrible as it seems now. Right now it's pretty much impossible. :P

 

And I mean:

"its only been 24h"

[Kurodashi]

I will have you know I like the Berry planting I really do.

I spent the last 2 days (prolly 10+ hours a day nothing but waiting for berries) doing the guide which is still not 100% done.

 

But I will have too agree on most of what you say.

 

1. It is way to time consuming. The watering is fine but it is just to much waiting for the berries for 8+ hours.

2. Berries will be FAR to overpriced since the request will be far more then what is going to be provided by the players who have time to grow the berries.

 

I think the berry market should come back alongside this feature. In the end it would mean alot of people will buy berries but it will also mean people who want to spend less money and have the time to grow berries can save money.

 

IMO the worst part of this berry feature is the berries have no set price anymore.

 

I mean:

 

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Edited March 26, 2016 by Kurodashi

[Frag]

srs nobody has the time to keep checking the fking plants for 6 hours, would be fine if we can buy battle berrys with bp.

[Leorodo]

I like the BP idea, casual players just don't have time to grind for berries if they just log on for tourneys and the odd battle now and then.

[JonesMX]

I agree with you, but they will probably wont do a thing about it, maybe at least they should implement the berry system of Pokemon Emerald instead, it would be A LOT easier and you wouldn´t have to worry about losing your berries because they will plant again if you dont pick them up, plus it would totally look a lot like the original games.

 

 

PS: I will put this in Suggestions

Edited March 26, 2016 by JonesMX

[Dragoniiii12]

I probably wouldn't hate the berry farming too much if they had left the berry store in, and also cut the times down.

 

If I wanted to spend real-world hours on farming, I'd just go renew my Runescape membership.

[Gunthug]

 

 

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yikes, that is absolutely disgusting

[Kornelio]

  Well i voice out i play this game to have a kind of grind before battles, and im in favor of berry farming.....but, i think the actual system is very bad cuz it drain your time very badly for just a few berrys. IMO devs should make berry farming a lot easier so we can all be happy.

 

  However, this system is new and is normal to have a lot of bad things since it wasnt implemented on last PTS, so give it some time.

Edited March 26, 2016 by Kornelio

[ShadowGary]

Trash

[GeneralVenican]

I was about to post this

Doubles is the most berry-reliant tier and it really sucks if you don't have them. Lum, Sitrus, and Petayas are pretty common and needed in bulk as they are often consumed. This update sucks for today's TT and the upcoming seasonal.

 

I'd imagine when we work out the kinks of berry farming it won't be as terrible as it seems now. Right now it's pretty much impossible. :P

 

And I mean:

 

Incoming "its only been 24h" comment. That dosnt matter people

[Sztajger]

At least it should be like form seed to big plant 1h not 8

Edited March 26, 2016 by Sztajger

[OldKeith]

Well, it would not be a pokemmo update if it wasn't a step forward and two steps back.

[QPrime]

Totally in favor of reverting berry system to the way it was, or making us pay bp for them. It's too tedious as is. Having to go back and re-water them - obnoxious as all hell.

[Champlooo]

When you can't play the game literally 24/7:

EDIT: All dried out, not flooded

Edited March 26, 2016 by Champlooo

[GeneralVenican]

Totally in favor of reverting berry system to the way it was, or making us pay bp for them. It's too tedious as is. Having to go back and re-water them - obnoxious as all hell.

nah thats the leats of the problem, but its making u beon for 8h so u get them perfect

[FuzzyRegirock]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the devs made us grind for leftovers at this point, seeing how ridiculous this update was. Honestly you couldn't have said it better orange, the tediousness involved with this new system is bs, and to answer the thread; I don't play this game to grind. To be honest I play it because of the people I've met, I barely do anything in this game anymore. Not to mention this berry grind update destroyed my determination to build comp teams now, and has destroyed my poliwrath. I agree with this thread in full; the devs always find some way to screw something up.

[GeneralVenican]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the devs made us grind for leftovers at this point, seeing how ridiculous this update was. Honestly you couldn't have said it better orange, the tediousness involved with this new system is bs, and to answer the thread; I don't play this game to grind. To be honest I play it because of the people I've met, I barely do anything in this game anymore. Not to mention this berry grind update destroyed my determination to build comp teams now, and has destroyed my poliwrath. I agree with this thread in full; the devs always find some way to screw something up.

"You now have to catch a snorlax and let it use crunch several times in battle while the opponent holds a apple. Apples are gottn from berries with a 0.1% chance"

[Weedle]

well the good part was that I had a vast amount of oran berries from catching teddiursa in safari, and i sold them all for 10k each

[nivellen]

And yet there are some people that say "ITS A MMO YOU HAVE TO FARM YOU HAVE TO PLAY 24/7 NON STOP FARMING, STOP COMPLAINING"

Matchmaking its an awesome feature, this is the kind of things that we need.. we need things that give meaning to the endless and mindless grindind that this game is.. not adding more senless grind.. 

And please just stop about the "economy" thing.. there are a lot of thing that we can sell, shards, dittos, pokes, tutor move items..  

Edited March 26, 2016 by nivellen

[GeneralVenican]

Had to skip the first few minutes of R2 on TT today, cus i had to water my berries

[Tritios]

all you people going ape-shit over this berry-stuff...

 

yes this new feature needs a serious buff. And i know its been used ironicly several times as an argument, but its been 2 days since the update? we still dont know the combinations for new berries, atleast i dont. And people are freaking out atm. buying and selling berries at a redicilous amout. When the recepies for berries are well known amoung the comunity the prices will drop dramaticly (most likely)

Rache wrote in some other thread that the prices might even be lower than before, which gives me the impression that that is the range the devs are going for, its not meant be 10k a berry. 

Give it some time, Kyu already stated they are buffing this stuff. if that will be enough, im not sure..

 

Also, when implementing a new feature you should start on the harder part of the scale of grindyness and soften it up if it proves to be too grindy. rather than starting on the other side of the scale and then being forced to lower the rates. atleast i think the community will start a bigger shitstorm if the latter part was to happend.

And the berry merchant was clearly just a placeholder feature with the intent of implementing farmmo eventually. And the placeholder was poorly designed imo. too easy, and too cheap (because you didnt have to make any effort). 

 

anyway, im no gamedesigner and dont know shit about it etc etc. im just trying to look at it from another angle.