KaynineXL Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 To be fair, Shelgon got a pretty good typing and remains one of the best wisher of the tier. And despite being a wisher/defensive wall, he is still able to do decent damage with double-edge and keep the pressure on. He is not unviable yet, but if sneasel comes to NU, that is another story. I just think sneasel will be trash. Hitmon mach ohko. gg gbwead 1 Link to comment
FinnTheMember Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Nice ! Thanks for this share :) Link to comment
linwe Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 very nice guide btw will any of this be changed/edited/updated to show the new NU tier? Flareon/Sneasel/Blastoise etc? or am i just blind? Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 very nice guide btw will any of this be changed/edited/updated to show the new NU tier? Flareon/Sneasel/Blastoise etc? or am i just blind? Yeah I'm gonna start updating as soon as I got time and energy. Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Alright, guide fixed accoring to tier changes. Link to comment
GBush Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Thought I would provide a set and some stuff you need to put this guy into your guide since he just got moved down. Hypno BST: 483 (85/73/70/73/115/67)- A great support user of a pokemon. It has several tricks up its sleeves and enough bulk to tank hits. It's ability Insomnia helps against Sleep Powder users for you to get it in for a free switch. Other than that, the lack of Rest/Recover is a little disappointing. It's only recovery option is Wish. But the rest of its movepool makes up for it. [spoiler] Support Ability: InsomniaNature: Bold or Calm EV Spread: Bold 252 Defense/ 252 HP Calm 52 Sp Def/ 200 Defense/ 252 HP If you want to build a hefty special defence wall you can have it calm if you'd prefer that. Item: Leftovers Seismic Toss / Psychic Thunder-Wave / Toxic WishProtect /Reflect/ Light Screen/ Counter/ HP Ground- Seismic toss is a decent option instead of psychic to help damage those dark types. This is the fairly standard set and you can just help heal or set up a screen or inflict status on your opponent. Then bring in something that can benefit from it like a sweeper. [/spoiler] anewhope, ShadowGary and KaynineXL 3 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 thank you for this, nice guide Link to comment
anewhope Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) +1 i would like to see what u think about panphy, cubone, hypno, chinchou lol. thanks alot edit also maybe onix too..:) Edited December 26, 2015 by anewhope Link to comment
anewhope Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Thought I would provide a set and some stuff you need to put this guy into your guide since he just got moved down. Hypno BST: 483 (85/73/70/73/115/67)- A great support user of a pokemon. It has several tricks up its sleeves and enough bulk to tank hits. It's ability Insomnia helps against Sleep Powder users for you to get it in for a free switch. Other than that, the lack of Rest/Recover is a little disappointing. It's only recovery option is Wish. But the rest of its movepool makes up for it. [spoiler] Support Ability: InsomniaNature: Bold or Calm EV Spread: Bold 252 Defense/ 252 HP Calm 52 Sp Def/ 200 Defense/ 252 HP If you want to build a hefty special defence wall you can have it calm if you'd prefer that. Item: Leftovers Seismic Toss / Psychic Thunder-Wave / Toxic WishProtect /Reflect/ Light Screen/ Counter/ HP Ground- Seismic toss is a decent option instead of psychic to help damage those dark types. This is the fairly standard set and you can just help heal or set up a screen or inflict status on your opponent. Then bring in something that can benefit from it like a sweeper. [/spoiler] thanks,,, alot GBush 1 Link to comment
Draekyn Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Blastoise BST: 530 (79/83/100/85/105/78) - The starter that everyone should had been using in the original game but they didn't because they're dumb. gotta love you for this Nimali, Boutet and OrangeManiac 3 Link to comment
Kailido Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 No sudowoodo in the list :( I use this gimmicky one Sudowoodo Impish/Relaxed/Adamant 252 HP and 152 Atk 104 Def or max Atk if you feel like it's not enough Block Counter Rock Slide Double Edge (only if Rock Head) / Explosion The main purpose of this is to Block physical pokemons that think that can take on Sudowoodo. Very gimmicky and can be your downfall if you block the wrong pokemon, like a Poliwrath or Hitmontop. Sudowoodo would be so much better if he was a Rock/Grass pokemon, kinda like Cradily Link to comment
themanone Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 is this up to date? Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 is this up to date? It's up to date to an extent. Link to comment
TatsuyaSuo Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I'm just gonna drop this here... Have fun. [spoiler] Cancer trap staller Shuckle. EVs: 252hp, split defs or 252 def/spdef, 4atk Item: leftovers/chesto berry Nature: relaxed/sassy/careful/impish -Sand Tomb/Wrap -Toxic -Rest -Encore/knock off/annoying stuff Simple, trap shit, toxic, and laugh your ass off as you watch them die or at least take major toxic damage, or maybe force some heal bells, sand tomb does more damage than wrap and has a nice ground typing while wrap can hit flying types. Now seriously this is mostly for shits and giggles. But even in higher tiers, it can out-stall some stallers if played well. Although it may have trouble against hyper offensive teams if it doesn't have encore and requires decent prediction to set up. Team Synergy: if you happen to have something that can pp stall stuff that could give shuckle a hard time with something like spite, or have some annoying disable set, this can be a pain to deal with if you do get trapped + encored and your super effective surf is disabled or out of pp. [/spoiler] Arimanius, Gabool and SweeTforU 3 Link to comment
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