Kimikozen Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 hours ago, londark said: suggestion for a solid check/counter for magearna? I've been having lot's of issues stopping it cause after a set up it's pretty much GGWP due to the stats, ability, and coverage....And it's not really that hard for it to set up a Shift Gear... It really depends on the set. Celesteela, Heatran, and Ferrothorn are all pretty solid at checking Mag, but you NEED to be able to pivot effectively into the Z-moves. Mega venu and Toxapex are pretty solid but again, can be easily destroyed by a giga volt havoc or steelium z respectively. Chansey and Jirachi are its only true counters, and even then, Mag can just pivot out on you. imo ban magearna its lame as shit londark and RysPicz 1 1 Link to comment
suigin Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 5 hours ago, londark said: suggestion for a solid check/counter for magearna? I've been having lot's of issues stopping it cause after a set up it's pretty much GGWP due to the stats, ability, and coverage....And it's not really that hard for it to set up a Shift Gear... Volcarona is fairly safe if you are good at keeping rocks off your field, even Gigavolt in electric terrain has to get a good roll to OHKO londark 1 Link to comment
londark Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 TIL that you can't encore on its last move a pokemon that is going to use a Z-Move feelsbadman Link to comment
Imperial Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-624685682 Went down to the wire, relied on a bit of RNG though. Arimanius 1 Link to comment
DarylDixon Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen1ou-624768559 ikr u online jose if you want to spect :* Link to comment
notmudkip0 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-625020939 Spending a lot of time on randoms since all my teams are on a computer I can't use. Got this beautiful sweep. Arimanius 1 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Gunthug said: Excadrill/Alola wak are two pretty reliable checks. Mega camerupt as well Kinda late, but I have been using vest Excadrill often and I must admit it is really good. Deals with most of shiftgearnas, double dancers. Only gets fukd by a well predicted All Out Pummeling which surely is problematic but not all sets carrynit . On higher ladder you will most likely see them using Gigavolt Havoc as Z move of choice (1700+) so Exca does make sense. I wish it could knock off doe Gunthug and Arimanius 2 Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 10 hours ago, RysPicz said: Kinda late, but I have been using vest Excadrill often and I must admit it is really good. Deals with most of shiftgearnas, double dancers. Only gets fukd by a well predicted All Out Pummeling which surely is problematic but not all sets carrynit . On higher ladder you will most likely see them using Gigavolt Havoc as Z move of choice (1700+) so Exca does make sense. I wish it could knock off doe I haven't tried it in gen 7 yet, but back in gen 6, there was usually the split decision Of running vest with attack evs (since you're forced to only running attacking moves) or go with a max sp def leftovers set that gets to utilize toxic/stealth rock for pesky sableye teams. I'm not sure if it's worth running max sp def vest now or not, as excadrill mostly relies on its typing to check a lot of threats. I guess vest would be most useful for gengar/lele (assuming it can tank a stab attack+focus blast) Link to comment
Gunthug Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 18 minutes ago, BurntZebra said: I haven't tried it in gen 7 yet, but back in gen 6, there was usually the split decision Of running vest with attack evs (since you're forced to only running attacking moves) or go with a max sp def leftovers set that gets to utilize toxic/stealth rock for pesky sableye teams. I'm not sure if it's worth running max sp def vest now or not, as excadrill mostly relies on its typing to check a lot of threats. I guess vest would be most useful for gengar/lele (assuming it can tank a stab attack+focus blast) I definitely prefer the non AV set since it's so damn reliable for setting up rocks. Important to note it comes in effortlessly against koko and even when it uturns out, drill isn't passive enough to give away too much momentum. To be fair though I actually havent run av drill in smou so maybe I'll give it a shot. I'm guessing it's dual stabs spin and then, what, rock slide? Link to comment
londark Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Generally it`s EQ, Iron Head, Spin and Rock Slide to get the best coverage/damage out of it. I`ve seen a bunch of Poison Jab ones as well, but i'm not sure what's usefull for, and XScissor, and i remember this one clearly cause it ohkod my Celebi once. But i don`t know/remember the exact sets those were running Link to comment
suigin Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 PJab should probably guarantee the removal of Bulu, seems more like a lure thing. Most Excadrills I've seen are sash leads so I can't really say. Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, Gunthug said: I definitely prefer the non AV set since it's so damn reliable for setting up rocks. Important to note it comes in effortlessly against koko and even when it uturns out, drill isn't passive enough to give away too much momentum. To be fair though I actually havent run av drill in smou so maybe I'll give it a shot. I'm guessing it's dual stabs spin and then, what, rock slide? Rock slide is probably the best. It gets poison jab or x scissor, poison jab is only really useful for tapu bulu, which generally doesn't come in vs excadrill anyways as its slower than offensive sets and gets hit hard by iron head. Rock tomb is an option I suppose as it can probably outspeed some interesting stuff at -1 speed and the chip damage probably helps it get some kos on threats as well. Link to comment
londark Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Thinking back on it i guess Poison Jab could also net a surprise KO on some Brelooms that decide to set up on it Link to comment
RysPicz Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 8 hours ago, londark said: Thinking back on it i guess Poison Jab could also net a surprise KO on some Brelooms that decide to set up on it Breloom isn't very common anymore- at least not enoguh to warrant a poison jab over rock slide. If you do not have a Chansey in your team, believe me, you do not want Zard-y to have such an easy switch in on you. Link to comment
londark Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7oususpecttest-626449631 Back at the low ladder cause of the suspect test, got this pearl Arimanius 1 Link to comment
notmudkip0 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen4randombattle-627205295 Quagsire's face the whole game Edited September 5, 2017 by notmudkip0 Gilan, londark, Moetal and 1 other 4 Link to comment
LifeStyle Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen4ou-627369347 Love when all of my moves just decide to miss RysPicz, SteveDerBaum, Gilan and 1 other 4 Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, LifeStyle said: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen4ou-627369347 Love when all of my moves just decide to miss Played it out like a god tho LifeStyle 1 Link to comment
LifeStyle Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Just now, SweeTforU said: Played it out like a god tho skill > hax Link to comment
suigin Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7rususpecttest-628197956 looking forward to speed boost sharpedo in mmo Link to comment
RysPicz Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 3 hours ago, suigin said: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7rususpecttest-628197956 looking forward to speed boost sharpedo in mmo Im looking forward to seeing arena trap banned Link to comment
notmudkip0 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randomdoublesbattle-628299185 Tailwind saves Arimanius 1 Link to comment
londark Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Wreckt by Heatran http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7oususpecttest-628741425 Arimanius 1 Link to comment
notmudkip0 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen4ou-628746865 What a sweet victory. I don't think any win has made me laugh so much. Arimanius 1 Link to comment
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