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2 minutes ago, LifeStyle said:

Return+Iron Tail+EQ is unresisted in NU I'm pretty sure. That's only 3 moves

CB or Life Orb though? They both have their own disadvantages, but it is true they can cover the meta and inflict a serious hurt. I think NU lacks a quality bulky Water with instant recovery such as Slowbro and Milotic in OU, and Slowking in UU. Without one, I can get behind this ban but I just wanted to see the thought behind not letting it stay with the recent drops. 

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2 minutes ago, DoubleJ said:

CB or Life Orb though? They both have their own disadvantages, but it is true they can cover the meta and inflict a serious hurt. I think NU lacks a quality bulky Water with instant recovery such as Slowbro and Milotic in OU, and Slowking in UU. Without one, I can get behind this ban but I just wanted to see the thought behind not letting it stay with the recent drops. 

Bulk Up lefties is also possible, +1 on a forced switch and 1/2ko anything that comes in

4 minutes ago, gbwead said:

Need Crunch for Shedinja nab.

Plsgo

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The funny thing is my granbull has fire punch specifically for steelix back when it was introduced to UU. With that being said I found far greater success with granbull as a supportive role with heal bell in NU. Sadly that kind of option was only useable in NU, mainly due to UU having the most supportive pokemon such as lantern/ampharos. Its sad to see such specific movesets destroy the creativity of pokemon by forcing it into an environment where it has to run that specific moveset otherwise it is severally outclassed. It is a sad day for NU and the creativity of the NU tier as a whole.

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typo :P
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2 hours ago, Elliasal said:

The funny thing is my granbull has fire punch specifically for steelix back when it was introduced to UU. With that being said I found far greater success with granbull as a supportive role with heal bell in NU. Sadly that kind of option was only useable in NU, mainly due to UU having the most supportive pokemon such as lantern/ampharos. Its sad to see such specific movesets destroy the creativity of pokemon by forcing it into an environment where it has to run that specific moveset otherwise it is severally outclassed. It is a sad day for NU and the creativity of the NU tier as a whole.

I know Unown pressures earthquake Granbull rly hard. I even made a post about how hard it pressures, but eq> fire punch for steelix.

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5 hours ago, Elliasal said:

The funny thing is my granbull has fire punch specifically for steelix back when it was introduced to UU. With that being said I found far greater success with granbull as a supportive role with heal bell in NU. Sadly that kind of option was only useable in NU, mainly due to UU having the most supportive pokemon such as lantern/ampharos. Its sad to see such specific movesets destroy the creativity of pokemon by forcing it into an environment where it has to run that specific moveset otherwise it is severally outclassed. It is a sad day for NU and the creativity of the NU tier as a whole.

fireblast/overheat

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252+ Atk Choice Band Marshtomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix: 92-110 (50.5 - 60.4%) -- 87.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers 

 

252+ Atk Choice Band Marshtomp Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Solrock: 134-162 (68 - 82.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Choice Band Marshtomp Iron Tail vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Solrock: 114-136 (57.8 - 69%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

252+ Atk Choice Band Marshtomp Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 66-80 (51.9 - 62.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

252+ Atk Choice Band Marshtomp Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mantine: 142-168 (73.9 - 87.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

eaz? @gbwead

 

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8 minutes ago, DarylDixon said:

252+ Atk Choice Band Marshtomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix: 92-110 (50.5 - 60.4%) -- 87.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers 

 

252+ Atk Choice Band Marshtomp Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Solrock: 134-162 (68 - 82.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Choice Band Marshtomp Iron Tail vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Solrock: 114-136 (57.8 - 69%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

252+ Atk Choice Band Marshtomp Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 66-80 (51.9 - 62.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

252+ Atk Choice Band Marshtomp Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mantine: 142-168 (73.9 - 87.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

eaz? @gbwead

 

boy why do i wanna get one now :weary:

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On 22.9.2017 at 12:44 AM, Gunthug said:

How's omastar doing? 

There are enough Water Absorb mons + Kecleon to keep the sweeper Omastar in check. Due to the difficulty of sweeping with Omastar I have yet to see a Rain Dance Omastar in a match but I have seen multiple Specs Omas. The Spikes set obviously remains as viable as ever and it's kinda scary the main spinner (Torkoal) is weak to STAB Surf but I wouldn't call Omastar anything broken. I'd say it's like a A+ mon, not even S.

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