pachima Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) Well, first, heavy banded hitters are able to 2hko chime with ease. Most of our special sweepers can also 2hko the bold version of chime. For checks, u just need to predict a non-toxic turn, unless u run mawile, or metang which wall the most of chimes. Since few run signal beam, shiftry is usually a safe offensive check, or murkrow lol. To be honest, calm chimecho is more viable than bold in such a tier, but that just me. And since ppl like to run bold, meh. I should reformulate what I said tho, the way people are using chimecho isn´t that problematic. I believe it has the stats and support movepool to shine in the tier, but for now, its meh. Lastly, I guess the shining point of chime is psychic + toxic combo which is annoying to deal with (Edit: and levitate), but we have hypno now tho, so that attribute isnt exclusive to chime anyway. Edited May 25, 2017 by pachima gbwead 1 Link to comment
LifeStyle Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I see more Calm Toxic Chimes than those Bold CM ones SweeTforU and Deadwind 2 Link to comment
pachima Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, LifeStyle said: I see more Calm Toxic Chimes than those Bold CM ones lol, I seriously dont. I mean, calm means ez persian sweep, but in the games I see, bold is more dominant, and slightly less versatil than calm. Maybe tough luck on spectating idk. Link to comment
Laz Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 So Granbull is the new Aggron? LifeStyle, fredrichnietze, aftershocker and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Gunthug Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lazaro23 said: So Granbull is the new Aggron? Hey at least it doesn't have sturdy. Or two stabs Munya 1 Link to comment
Laz Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, Gunthug said: Hey at least it doesn't have sturdy. Or two stabs That's true, but honestly I would easily wall an aggron than a Granbull, thing is unstoppable imo. Not complaining or anything, just saying there is no safe switch for that dog, iron tail wrecks solrock and shuckle real hard, return shits on bellossom, claydol, and hitmontop, while eq probably 2hko torkoal which doesnt have instant recovery. Probably fits uber criterias imo, sucks that we're relying on usage stats. Link to comment
RysPicz Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lazaro23 said: That's true, but honestly I would easily wall an aggron than a Granbull, thing is unstoppable imo. Not complaining or anything, just saying there is no safe switch for that dog, iron tail wrecks solrock and shuckle real hard, return shits on bellossom, claydol, and hitmontop, while eq probably 2hko torkoal which doesnt have instant recovery. Probably fits uber criterias imo, sucks that we're relying on usage stats. Granbull was NU before and it was fine, NU is a very offensive tier and Granbull doesn't have much to offer with it's very low speed, although we had MisD in the tier back then. I'd opt to see how it will do and in 3 days we will have some opportunity to check it out Erayne 1 Link to comment
Gunthug Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lazaro23 said: That's true, but honestly I would easily wall an aggron than a Granbull, thing is unstoppable imo. Not complaining or anything, just saying there is no safe switch for that dog, iron tail wrecks solrock and shuckle real hard, return shits on bellossom, claydol, and hitmontop, while eq probably 2hko torkoal which doesnt have instant recovery. Probably fits uber criterias imo, sucks that we're relying on usage stats. Yeah I 100% see where you're coming from. While I don't think granbull is strong enough to deserve a quick ban, I've always had my doubts even when it used to be in NU and we'll definitely be keeping a close eye on it. My problem with uber criteria is that granbull kind of lacks the speed to do any real sweeping. Its wallbreaking potential rivals aggron for sure, but let's see how it does in the tier for a month and make a decision after that - I've been wrong before about something that looked broken on paper gbwead, Arimanius, Erayne and 2 others 5 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Bull in NU again? Time to play the tier LifeStyle, Arimanius, aftershocker and 4 others 7 Link to comment
Deadwind Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Laz, DoubleJ, JLxKaos and 17 others 20 Link to comment
Mnemosyne Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Yo does anyone know why Hypno still NU is, got above cut-off point in UU? Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 When was Granbull moved up to UU? Is this considered "yo-yo-ing" or has that two-month window already passed? @Gunthug @BurntZebra The other tier council members appear dead, so I'll direct my question to these two fine gents. Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, DoubleJ said: When was Granbull moved up to UU? Is this considered "yo-yo-ing" or has that two-month window already passed? @Gunthug @BurntZebra The other tier council members appear dead, so I'll direct my question to these two fine gents. It's been at least two months (maybe more), but that's enough for it to come back down. Munya, DoubleJ and Gunthug 3 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, BurntZebra said: It's been at least two months (maybe more), but that's enough for it to come back down. Also @Mnemosyne has a point, Hypno should be UU again based on usage (4.98%) Munya and Mnemosyne 2 Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, DoubleJ said: Also @Mnemosyne has a point, Hypno should be UU again based on usage (4.98%) I pointed that out to munya in a tc thread, he should fix it whenever he gets a chance. DoubleJ, Munya and Mnemosyne 3 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, DoubleJ said: Also @Mnemosyne has a point, Hypno should be UU again based on usage (4.98%) Munya 1 Link to comment
Erayne Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 sturdy is so much more cancer than intimidate tho. Even if granbull may be more than a threat than aggron i feel like it makes the tier much more fun Redav 1 Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 played nu yesterday and thought "this aggron shit is a bit strong, nearly nothing can wall it reliably besides the ground fish thingy whos name i can never recall and it is only really good for aggron. logged in today and saw you banned it. good job, glad i dont have to bother these days. keep up the good work. Munya and Redav 2 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Can we open a discussion thread on Granbull? Nonbanded Bull is incredibly strong in this tier, considering all of our "checks" are weak to one of its coverage moves. If we had a dominant ghost type I wouldn't be complaining, but we don't and thus Bulls switch ins are easily predicted and gain no momentum. Mnemosyne and Arimanius 2 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 26 minutes ago, DoubleJ said: Can we open a discussion thread on Granbull? Nonbanded Bull is incredibly strong in this tier, considering all of our "checks" are weak to one of its coverage moves. If we had a dominant ghost type I wouldn't be complaining, but we don't and thus Bulls switch ins are easily predicted and gain no momentum. Just use gastly?? Lol DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, BlackJovi said: Just use gastly?? Lol That's like saying Lonzo Ball is going to lead the Lakers to the promise land next season. BlackJovi 1 Link to comment
DiDi Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DoubleJ said: That's like saying Lonzo Ball is going to lead the Lakers to the promise land next season. lildiky ball will, fuck lonzo Edited June 10, 2017 by DiDi DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
LifeStyle Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 39 minutes ago, DoubleJ said: Can we open a discussion thread on Granbull? Nonbanded Bull is incredibly strong in this tier, considering all of our "checks" are weak to one of its coverage moves. If we had a dominant ghost type I wouldn't be complaining, but we don't and thus Bulls switch ins are easily predicted and gain no momentum. But I like 6-0ing teams with it Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, DiDi said: lildiky ball will, fuck lonzo The best ball DiDi 1 Link to comment
Mnemosyne Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Can u bak granbull 4hwnkyou GBush 1 Link to comment
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