Off Topic Suggestion Thread

[Misfire33]

inb4 crazy mad rush to claim all the old threads because the devs decided to wipe it clean like a bunch of bastards

 

Misfire's Music Thread -- No Cool People Allowed

[KingofChess]

 

Here are some options for the staff:

 

1. Some of the staff might not know this but 4 or 5 noobs isn't the same as fucking over 700 pros or so.

2. Don't turn into twelvies about this stuff, just give us OT.

3. I think we should have more games, less bullshit.

4. Tell us every stupid pos- No no, nevermind.

[Vorred]

inb4 crazy mad rush to claim all the old threads because the devs decided to wipe it clean like a bunch of bastards

 

mad dash to see who can spoil king's dream first

[Plague]

Could we get ThinkNice's random tournament thread moved to the Unofficial Tournaments subforum at least? That was still ongoing.

[Noobipoopi]

Why do we even need to have an Off Topic thread? All of the content that's getting posted there is anime..

 

I don't hate anime but I just don't find the characters attractive.

[Misfire33]

Why do we even need to have an Off Topic thread? All of the content that's getting posted there is anime..

 

I don't hate anime but I just don't find the characters attractive.

 

Because our need to pretend we have lives is greater than your need to avoid looking at two-dimensional tatas, Mr. Negative.

[Noobipoopi]

Because our need to pretend we have lives is greater than your need to avoid looking at two-dimensional tatas, Mr. Negative.

It was just a question. It would be more suitable with an anime thread instead.

[Misfire33]

It was just a question. It would be more suitable with an anime thread instead.

 

Well, this (and the other thread) is basically our entire section for now. Hopefully you won't have to put up with us for long.

 

R-right, mods?

[Plague]

It was just a question. It would be more suitable with an anime thread instead.

 

Their idea was just to contain OT in a single thread temporarily. If we start making a bunch of different threads for the different things that were discussed in OT we're going to end up with a misplaced unlabeled sub-forum more than a temporary outpost.

Edited June 24, 2015 by Plague

[Bishav]

A self moderated forum would be fine, if people find anything offensive/unnecessary they can report it themselves.

[Malorne]

A self moderated forum would be fine, if people find anything offensive/unnecessary they can report it themselves.

inb4 porn everywhere

[Orangeslash]

Here are some options for the staff:

 

1. Some of the staff might not know this but 4 or 5 noobs isn't the same as fucking over 700 pros or so.

2. Don't turn into twelvies about this stuff, just give us OT.

3. I think we should have more games, less bullshit.

4. Tell us every stupid pos- No no, nevermind.

 

[TheGloriousWalrus]

he has valid points

[Orangeslash]

he has valid points

 

I know. It was still strange to see someone who isn't familiar with the forum defend it so heavily.

[Exitium]

It's possible to create multiple accounts.

[Malorne]

Srs post

Alright, we get it... we're toxic by nature and cannot be controlled... 90% of the population of OT doesn't even play the game anymore so you don't want to bother yourselfs with players that no longer contribute anything positive to the game... Thats where you're wrong. Off Topic, like other sub-forums are a part of PokeMMO community, it is a place where players share their thoughts, tastes etc. etc. with the community and have a fun time while socializing with other members. 

"Make Off Topic presentable"... Is the queen of England gonna visit Off Topic or something? Whats with all this cencor and overmoderating things... Everyone has been corrupted by the internet in here to some extend, so lets stop trying to act innocent... If i were a player and trying to convert someone to play PokeMMO, i wouldn't say "oh, look how tidy this sub-forum is" but rather "look, everyone is having fun, you should join and have fun as well"

"But the kids may be watching" you can't just convert the whole community to a kindergarten level just bc a few kids are lurking about. 

Improve your communication with the community, hell make a few threads in off topic and sociliaze. Don't like where the conversation is headed? Promote the discussion by posting about it rather than locking or hiding a few posts and pray to god that they will continue like nothing happened.

On an little note : a gif image doesn't always means spam, it might have a deeper meaning than just a picture.

[Emlee]

This post is essentially feedback and suggestions for both concerned staff and OT posters.

 

I think that off topic has been moderated in a "one child is bad they all are punished" way for a tad too long. I am not blaming any one moderator for this, and I also see the contribution the OT community has to this. I don't think it is correct that an OT poster can go into a thread they dislike and get it locked/ruin it for everyone (I have personally done this in the past and knew very well what I was doing). When we have controversial threads in OT then we are usually approached with the "If you're good you can keep it, if not then I will take it away from EVERYONE" approach. I understand this is tempting because you want us to behave and you also want to make your jobs as moderators easier but this type of relationship does not work. Pick your rules for OT, follow them to a tee (as much as humanly possible), AND make them clear. I have witnessed a couple warning points in OT that stem from innocent jokes among friends, I don't personally think this should be occurring if no one feels hurt/upset unless they're posting gore/porn/etc. Let's just make OT rules clear and have them followed consistently. Put two moderators in OT so they can discuss back and forth and try to make the best choice possible. Two people with strong opinions who aren't "Go with the flow" and who can communicate and work well together. Communication with the posters is good too, and I commend Daft for that.

 

Both OT posters and moderators/globals need to work on communication. Daft was doing well in this regards because he would communicate and discuss. No moderator is perfect, especially when they're tossed into OT as a newer CM. The people who post in OT need to be forgiving and understanding and also realize that at the end of the day if we don't get exactly what we want we can adjust to that. It's impossible to have every single person happy. In terms of communication I see no reason why a moderator should go into OT and tell us we are all negative and that they avoid OT because they would rather do other staff things, it's not constructive and it's lumping everyone into the same boat. I won't say we are never negative, etc, but still, it's just not a necessary thing to say (just like we have said some very unnecessary things to moderators). Moving forward we should try and SOLVE things instead of concentrating on who is right or wrong, and punishing them. It's absurd. Would we rather sort out issues or complain about them? I know I was laughing my little butt off last night seeing everyone be angry but waking up to OT being completely gone was a bit of an annoyance. It really just went along with the whole "if some of you are bad then it's gone" concept I mentioned earlier.

 

I'm just going to summarize things I have said and add a few things:

1) Hire two moderators and make sure they're people who  can work together and communicate effectively. I want Daft back because I adore him but give him some help !

2) Punish offenders and not the entire group - yes we are friends for the most part but that doesn't mean we are all involved

3) Moderate controversial threads accordingly as opposed to locking them up (yes, some may need to be locked if they're breaking rules like full of gore etc)

4) Let us joke and have fun - encourage people who feel harassed to speak to moderators, and if harassment has occurred then deal with the people involved ONLY

5) Shitposting - If you don't want us to shit post then DEFINE what it is you don't want us to do. When you say don't shit post I have no idea what you want me to avoid. I also think casual posting is absolutely fine - although I am sure some moderators would disagree.

6) The OT community needs to stop with the witch hunts and take some anger management classes (jk but seriously). You want a SOLUTION not conflict, right? Although conflict is fucking hilarious let's just not go overboard.

[s]7) Make King a moderator so she can be popular.

[/s]

Also I would like to ask is there a chance that you won't be bringing OT back? It seems crucial from a forum moderator perspective but I never can tell what you guys are up to when stuff like this happens.

 

And that is enough seriousness for me today.

[Malorne]

I understand this is tempting because you want us to behave and you also want to make your jobs as moderators easier but this type of relationship does not work.

Same could be done with sig rotators
BUT NOOOOOO

[Gilan]

1) Hire two moderators and make sure they're people who  can work together and communicate effectively. I want Daft back because I adore him but give him some help !

o/

 

DraftKey and I get along ;)

[Orangeslash]

Despite the fact this will never happen..................

 

 

It'd be nice IF the mods loosen up the reigns ever so slightly on OT to reconsider some of the bans that have occurred in that forum. Undoubtedly, most bans were justified, but I do feel that some users were banned/hit 5 WPs due to overstrict enforcement of rules.

 

JUST A THOUGHT.

 

 

[spoiler]COME BACK TO ME ARMISTICE[/spoiler]

[JoshLindsay10]

There was nothing wrong with OT IMO, Staff just need to moderate stuff that actually gets reported rather than jumping the gun

 

Its seems they just cant handle the #Banter at times

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqQK4Rtvv1c

[Misfire33]

In other news, one of my posts here has already been hidden.

 

Good to see the mods have learned a lot from this and are willing to change.

 

Ha ha ha.

[XelaKebert]

There was nothing wrong with OT IMO, Staff just need to moderate stuff that actually gets reported rather than jumping the gun

 

Because everything that gets reported is breaking the rules and everything that breaks the rules gets reported. Sure, that's a good way to run things when people are more reasonable. However, whenever an inch is given the collective group takes a mile. POYT was tried 3 times and each time delved into chaos after repeated warnings that it would be strictly moderated. Once it reached the point where more effort was being put forth just to moderate the thread than focusing on other tasks the thread had to go. In each instance only a select handful of posts ever got reported, but several pages worth of flaming and general shitposting existed within the thread itself. Sure friendly banter is fine, but where does the line get drawn? You can't always say that moderators should just focus on responding to reported posts rather than ensuring all posts fit within the rules. Reports are fine, but some hold zero weight and not everything gets reported. What are they to do then just leave you be?

[LadyMori]

The fact that moderators are modding OFFtopic more than ontopic is quite strange to me. Their paying more attention to unrelated "shitposting" than someone putting comp vendor teams in Suggestion section lol get over it mods, we're more spunky in OT than in allthe other areas

[Dannnno]

allow me to moderate it, I have experience moderating on this forum and I understand when a post is a joke/discussion and isn't going too far

[Spoiler] then ot can become the circle jerk it deserves to be [/spoiler]

 

+1 I'd return for that