PandaJJ Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Mfw when I hadn't seen this untill now: I'm tempted to make a thread in Bug Reports if the data collected by the OP is correct. I thought they had never stated the shiny encounter rate, but this shows they are just lying. Arceustheking 1 Link to comment
TheGloriousWalrus Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I thought they had never stated the shiny encounter rate, but this shows they are just lying. Everytime a thread like this pops up they just say "The number mentioned in the FAQ is correct" noobihol and PandaJJ 2 Link to comment
ThinkNice Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Mfw when I hadn't seen this untill now: I'm tempted to make a thread in Bug Reports if the data collected by the OP is correct. I thought they had never stated the shiny encounter rate, but this shows they are just lying. It's why I said they were scamming peeps Vaeldras, frogbussoms, noobihol and 1 other 4 Link to comment
PandaJJ Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Everytime a thread like this pops up they just say "The number mentioned in the FAQ is correct" Let's make a huge experiment to prove them wrong. Although that would require a ton of time and coordination to be succesful... jayfeatskydd and SirAlbert 2 Link to comment
ThinkNice Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Let's make a huge experiment to prove them wrong. Although that would require a ton of time and coordination to be succesful... Was thinking of that but in the end can we actually 'proof; it. Even if we have our proof they can dismiss it by saying the numbers are made up and can't be proven to not be without an ingame encounter counter. PandaJJ and SirAlbert 2 Link to comment
TheGloriousWalrus Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Let's make a huge experiment to prove them wrong. Although that would require a ton of time and coordination to be succesful... Pffff I have better things to do than sit on my ass all day hunting pokemon. [spoiler]like watch shitty youtube videos[/spoiler] PandaJJ and Misfire33 2 Link to comment
londark Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You want some data? I've been counting my encounters since breeding was disabled pre update....The number isn't really accurate since some times i didn't count pokes ( so the number of encounters i actually higher that what i have right know ) To date: 21692 encounters This doesn't consider breeded pokes after the update, and as said it's inaccurate since some times i didn't had my phone ( using a counter there ) at hand...Guess how many shinies i got noobihol 1 Link to comment
ThinkNice Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You want some data? I've been counting my encounters since breeding was disabled pre update....The number isn't really accurate since some times i didn't count pokes ( so the number of encounters i actually higher that what i have right know ) To date: 21692 encounters This doesn't consider breeded pokes after the update, and as said it's inaccurate since some times i didn't had my phone ( using a counter there ) at hand...Guess how many shinies i got you encountered 2,5 shinies? So 2 shinies and a seel noobihol, Zehkar and Kiliminati 3 Link to comment
TheGloriousWalrus Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 If you want a shiny just surf from pallet town to cinnebar, around 40000 encounters on that route alone Nudeman, Gilvy, Bilburt and 9 others 12 Link to comment
Kiliminati Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) My literal face when these posts are still being moderated, yet replies from key staff members are still not present... Edited June 17, 2015 by Kiliminati Misfire33 and noobihol 2 Link to comment
PandaJJ Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You want some data? I've been counting my encounters since breeding was disabled pre update....The number isn't really accurate since some times i didn't count pokes ( so the number of encounters i actually higher that what i have right know ) To date: 21692 encounters This doesn't consider breeded pokes after the update, and as said it's inaccurate since some times i didn't had my phone ( using a counter there ) at hand...Guess how many shinies i got This (assuming you got zero shinies), along with OP's and PBC's posts, are all hypothesis tests that dismiss the encounter rate being 1/8192 with a significance level better than 1%. What I want to do is trying to estimate the actual encounter rate, and run a hypothesis test on that. It would be an immense amount of work, but it would "prove" what the actual encounter rate is, which is what people want to know. SirAlbert 1 Link to comment
londark Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 This (assuming you got zero shinies), along with OP's and PBC's posts, are all hypothesis tests that dismiss the encounter rate being 1/8192 with a significance level better than 1%. What I want to do is trying to estimate the actual encounter rate, and run a hypothesis test on that. It would be an immense amount of work, but it would "prove" what the actual encounter rate is, which is what people want to know. Yup it's 0 shinies. I got my 2 OT in early 2013, think Slowpoke was found around april 2013 or something like that....since then even tho i've more or less been quite active in game i got no OT if you need, i can restart the counter to make it more accurate, but will have to wait till my exams are done SirAlbert and PandaJJ 2 Link to comment
XelaKebert Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Mfw I take the time to simulate a sample size of 200,000 players 10 times taking a propensity to quit into account and those who argue the most about the rate being changed ignore it. Jate, noobihol, Misfire33 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
TheGloriousWalrus Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Mfw I take the time to simulate a sample size of 200,000 players 10 times taking a propensity to quit into account and those who argue the most about the rate being changed ignore it. You should have simulated the chance of them reading your statistics. Heimann, Bilburt, flavajabari and 17 others 20 Link to comment
shining Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 maybe that's why we have no counter to keep track of our encounters inside game... ^has this ever been suggested??? Link to comment
XelaKebert Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You should have simulated the chance of them reading your statistics. Yes I should have. It took me a couple hours to be sure each part behaved exactly how it was supposed to. SirAlbert 1 Link to comment
Kyu Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 So after circa 40.000 encounters, I am getting a little worried that the encounter rate for shinies aren't 1/8192 at all. I honestly hope that it's my luck and the game moderators aren't hiding something from us. I bought donator status aswell which should technically increase the chances from 1/8192 to 1/7373. 40000 / 8192 = 4.88281 shinies found according to the possibillities. I might just be a "little" unlucky. Can we get a confirmation that the shiny rate is indeed 1/8192 by a game developer? Shiny rate hasn't been a static amount for at least a year. It's variable depending on things like 'Whether donator status is active' 'Where you got your pogeyman' 'What you've been doing' 'How new you are' 'How much we think you're cheating' etc. A lot of the RNG for drops you encounter in the game is tailored in this format to combat cheating. No, we can't tell you what the modifiers are. But receiving nothing after 40k encounters is pretty suspect and since people are reporting it's a common occurrence I'll take a look. Conclusion: PokeMMO moderators(game developers) are waiting for the perfect moment to tell us. Moderators and Game Masters won't usually be able to answer your questions for anything that isn't public knowledge and they sure as hell won't touch a thread full of pissy people. On that note, I've updated the FAQ for next update so it's no longer misleading. Johnwaynee, SirAlbert, Kekhs and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment
Kiliminati Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Shiny rate hasn't been a static amount for at least a year. It's variable depending on things like 'Whether donator status is active' 'Where you got your pogeyman' 'What you've been doing' 'How new you are' 'How much we think you're cheating' etc. A lot of the RNG for drops you encounter in the game is tailored in this format to combat cheating. No, we can't tell you what the modifiers are. But receiving nothing after 40k encounters is pretty suspect and since people are reporting it's a common occurrence I'll take a look. Moderators and Game Masters won't usually be able to answer your questions for anything that isn't public knowledge and they sure as hell won't touch a thread full of pissy people. On that note, I've updated the FAQ for next update so it's no longer misleading.Ty Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) Shiny rate hasn't been a static amount for at least a year. It's variable depending on things like 'Whether donator status is active' 'Where you got your pogeyman' 'What you've been doing' 'How new you are' 'How much we think you're cheating' etc. A lot of the RNG for drops you encounter in the game is tailored in this format to combat cheating. No, we can't tell you what the modifiers are. But receiving nothing after 40k encounters is pretty suspect and since people are reporting it's a common occurrence I'll take a look. Moderators and Game Masters won't usually be able to answer your questions for anything that isn't public knowledge and they sure as hell won't touch a thread full of pissy people. On that note, I've updated the FAQ for next update so it's no longer misleading. Seriously though? Shiny rate hasn't been a static amount for at least a year. It's variable depending on things like 'Whether donator status is active' 'Where you got your pogeyman' 'What you've been doing' 'How new you are' 'How much we think you're cheating' etc. A lot of the RNG for drops you encounter in the game is tailored in this format to combat cheating. That's gotta be troll... please tell me this is troll.. Edited June 17, 2015 by KaynineXL Vaeldras 1 Link to comment
flavajabari Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 i can't even, so all these previous threads according shiny rates you just blatantly lied? Misfire33 1 Link to comment
sweendogforums Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Seriously though? Shiny rate hasn't been a static amount for at least a year. It's variable depending on things like 'Whether donator status is active' 'Where you got your pogeyman' 'What you've been doing' 'How new you are' 'How much we think you're cheating' etc. A lot of the RNG for drops you encounter in the game is tailored in this format to combat cheating. That's gotta be troll... please tell me this is troll.. If it isn't I don't think anybody should be donating for something which doesn't work in the way which they said it does. Link to comment
ThinkNice Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 i can't even, so all these previous threads according shiny rates you just blatantly lied? I mean, does this come as a shock really? Bearminator, Misfire33, Goldeneyes and 4 others 7 Link to comment
flavajabari Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 also wtf is the 'how much we think you're cheating' supposed to mean? if you think someones cheating you should ban, not mess around with shiny rates what teh actual fuck. do you do that for every account? who decides this? i know you won't answer this cause 'oh noes private info'. I mean, does this come as a shock really? i didn't have high hopes but this answer still shocked me yes doggydom, Vaeldras and Misfire33 3 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Didn't think to even mention it? People(including me) paying donator for that 1/7k rate... you know? Thanks.. Drach and Misfire33 2 Link to comment
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