DaftCoolio Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 18 minutes ago, soyhector said: When does chansey come back to Ou? >:c probably when we get gen5 Arimanius, fredrichnietze and soyhector 3 Link to comment
gbwead Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, DaftCoolio said: probably when we get gen5 Chansey with eviolite is probably even more banworthy than now tho. Link to comment
DaftCoolio Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, gbwead said: Chansey with eviolite is probably even more banworthy than now tho. u cant oppress chansey forever gbwead, Suneet, Maelstrom and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Gunthug Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, gbwead said: Chansey with eviolite is probably even more banworthy than now tho. not quick-ban worthy though, it'll at least get a chance gbwead, Maelstrom and Arimanius 3 Link to comment
gbwead Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gunthug said: not quick-ban worthy though, it'll at least get a chance Sounds like a "victim noise" argument to me, but ok ^^ I'm not going to bully Chansey. Edited July 13, 2017 by gbwead Gunthug 1 Link to comment
notmudkip0 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Could Gen 5 possibly have a Chansey ban with Blissey unbanned? gbwead, Suneet, SteveDerBaum and 1 other 4 Link to comment
suigin Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Probably 252+ Atk Manaphy Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 159-187 (24.8 - 29.1%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Manaphy Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 93-111 (23 - 27.4%) -- 62.7% chance to 4HKO 252+ Atk Manaphy Waterfall vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 237-280 (36.3 - 42.9%) -- 97.9% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Let's just wait until every game turns back into dugstall and dugtrapping the opposing chansey after first offensive bans. Link to comment
KingBowser Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 hour ago, suigin said: Probably 252+ Atk Manaphy Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 159-187 (24.8 - 29.1%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Manaphy Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 93-111 (23 - 27.4%) -- 62.7% chance to 4HKO 252+ Atk Manaphy Waterfall vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 237-280 (36.3 - 42.9%) -- 97.9% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Let's just wait until every game turns back into dugstall and dugtrapping the opposing chansey after first offensive bans. Whats manaphy calc on skarm? Link to comment
suigin Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 252+ Atk Manaphy Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 67-81 (20 - 24.2%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery Link to comment
Maelstrom Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I wonder how high Metagross and Venusaur usage will be this month. Link to comment
Munya Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 14 hours ago, Maelstrom said: I wonder how high Metagross and Venusaur usage will be this month. You will find out Sunday, maybe even earlier this weekend. :) LuisPocho 1 Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Now that chansey is banned, how about unbanning dugtrio? I think it would fit in the meta pretty well. Link to comment
LifeStyle Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Just now, SweeTforU said: Now that chansey is banned, how about unbanning dugtrio? I think it would fit in the meta pretty well. u srs? gbwead 1 Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Just now, LifeStyle said: u srs? ye boi Link to comment
LuisPocho Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, SweeTforU said: ye boi I remember its ban had nothing to do with chansey, the problem was that dugtrio is the perfect (boring) revenge killer... and now it would be even worse with swift choice band. gbwead 1 Link to comment
LifeStyle Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 16 hours ago, LuisPocho said: I remember its ban had nothing to do with chansey, the problem was that dugtrio is the perfect (boring) revenge killer... and now it would be even worse with swift choice band. and attack stat boost LuisPocho 1 Link to comment
Arimanius Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Yeah dugtrio was banned actually because it could trap and revenge kill offense too easily but that was a problem because chansey paired with dugtrio was too good because it could take all of chansey's counter and then with chansey you could wall to the death your opponent. But I still don't know, it would have to be discussed Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 8/20/2017 at 2:40 PM, SweeTforU said: Now that chansey is banned, how about unbanning dugtrio? I think it would fit in the meta pretty well. Dugtrio still traps the relevant special walls (porygon/umbreon) and can also trap pretty much some of the biggest offensive threats like magneton, blaziken, heracross, metagross, etc. Not much has really changed in terms of what dugtrio does. If being able to trap chansey was what made it overpowered, then trapinch/diglett would have been booted as well, but that isn't the case. LuisPocho, gbwead and Arimanius 3 Link to comment
HowLXG Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 49 minutes ago, BurntZebra said: Dugtrio still traps the relevant special walls (porygon/umbreon) and can also trap pretty much some of the biggest offensive threats like magneton, blaziken, heracross, metagross, etc. Not much has really changed in terms of what dugtrio does. If being able to trap chansey was what made it overpowered, then trapinch/diglett would have been booted as well, but that isn't the case. Doesn't Pory2 threaten it a lot with Ice Beam? I do agree with pretty much everything you said though, having a Pokemon that can revenge kill a huge number of threats (such as Blaziken, Metagross, Heracross, Magneton, Venusaur (if weakened), Alakazam, Starmie and Jolteon (if Dugtrio's uses swift band), Sceptile, Breloom, etc) seems pretty unhealthy for a metagame that lacks team preview. LuisPocho 1 Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 31 minutes ago, HowLXG said: Doesn't Pory2 threaten it a lot with Ice Beam? I do agree with pretty much everything you said though, having a Pokemon that can revenge kill a huge number of threats (such as Blaziken, Metagross, Heracross, Magneton, Venusaur (if weakened), Alakazam, Starmie and Jolteon (if Dugtrio's uses swift band), Sceptile, Breloom, etc) seems pretty unhealthy for a metagame that lacks team preview. Dugtrio can't really afford to switch in to chansey either, as it will mess up the sub+reversal strategy, so regardless of the special wall, it generally needs to come in on a double predict or on a recovery move from the wall. HowLXG 1 Link to comment
pachima Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 why are we even discussing about dugtrio? Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 On 27.8.2017 at 8:09 PM, pachima said: why are we even discussing about dugtrio? some pleb wanted it back in ou lmao FNTCZ, HowLXG, pachima and 2 others 5 Link to comment
FNTCZ Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) What about gengar/ttar ? Edited August 28, 2017 by FNTCZ SweeTforU and Oltan 2 Link to comment
SluaghMMO Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Doesn't worth discussing nothing right now. Imo, the OU meta right now is pretty versatile and diverse. and if is there any changes would be pretty temporary until 5gen comes out. Let's just wait and see if "anything becomes unhealth". (Poor english as always). Link to comment
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