ratticates endevoir

[creepa7]

hi

i have a simple question about a ratticate from a npc trainer

vs seeker -> i start with lvl 82 snorlax, 421 HP...the ratticate uses 1x Endeavor and my snorlax is on under 100k hp

 

how is it possible this low level 52 ratticate can hit me with nearly 350 damage - without crit, without super effective ?

 

i just want to understand this to get more knowledge about pokemons

 

ps: my snorlax is full ev trained (right ev trained and not 2x 252 like all noobs do it) with 1x31 and good ivs

 

 

pps: just what i thought about:

"Endeavor causes the target's HP to equal the user's current HP. It will deduct the difference from the target's HP. This move will fail if the user has more HP left than the target."

 

so if i get 350 dmg and i have 421 hp this means the ratticate should have 70 hp (whats the difference) oO

Edited April 24, 2015 by creepa7

[Arimanius]

hi
i have a simple question about a ratticate from a npc trainer
vs seeker -> i start with lvl 82 snorlax, 421 HP...the ratticate uses 1x Endeavor and my snorlax is on under 100k hp
 
how is it possible this low level 52 ratticate can hit me with nearly 350 damage - without crit, without super effective ?
 
i just want to understand this to get more knowledge about pokemons
 
ps: my snorlax is full ev trained (right ev trained and not 2x 252 like all noobs do it) with 1x31 and good ivs
 
 
pps: just what i thought about:
"Endeavor causes the target's HP to equal the user's current HP. It will deduct the difference from the target's HP. This move will fail if the user has more HP left than the target."
 
so if i get 350 dmg and i have 421 hp this means the ratticate should have 70 hp (whats the difference) oO

That^

This is not weird at all is even a tactical play in comp, you let yourself to be in 1 hp or so and then you endeavor your opponents

[YagamiNoir]

Endeavor's damage isn't affected by Attack/Defense, but rather, the amount of HP between the user and the target. The higher the target's HP and the lower the user's HP, the more effective the move is. 

 

"so if i get 350 dmg and i have 421 hp this means the ratticate should have 70 hp (whats the difference) oO"

 

The Raticate had 71 HP to begin with, perhaps, yes. On something with very high HP like Snorlax, reducing 400+ HP to Raticate's miniscule 71 HP amount would be a really steep loss, and hence why "something so low leveled can do so much damage to a high leveled Pokemon. ." 

[creepa7]

you are right guys and i have understand the theorie...

but this is the reason why i made the thread: the ratticates where i saw this were all level 52+ and had full hp

its impossible, even with 0 iv in hp, to have 71 hp at level 52+ with ratticate

 

i just checked my boxes and all of my ratticates (level 28-35) had more hp then 71...

if i have the first hit, then drop the enemy ratticate to 70 hp - its possible...

 

but the case im taking about -> all ratticates had 100% hp when using Endeavor

this is what made me annoying

 

sorry for the bad english btw

Edited April 24, 2015 by creepa7

[OldKeith]

A level 52 Raticate has 119 hp or more. However, Endeavor was not bugged last time I checked. Can you post a screen of what happened?

[YagamiNoir]

A level 52 Raticate has 119 hp or more. However, Endeavor was not bugged last time I checked. Can you post a screen of what happened?

The Raticate was possibly previously damaged or he was simply making a vague example.

[creepa7]

it happens every day on my route with vs seeker so dont worry, it wasnt just an 1 time case^^

it happenes every day at the ratticate and this is why i ask now

it it had happened 1 single time i wouldnt even care about and make a forum thread :P

currently i have cooldown on the trainers so i cant make a screenshot atm

 

 

edit: it is on route 3, but i dont know exactly which trainer it was

 

 

 

2. edit: ok i had not cooldown on every single npc on route 3 and there are multiple ones with ratticate

this time the same happened: 1. pokemon, i onehit it.... 2. the trainer send out ratticate... the ratticate gets the first attack cuz my snorlax is based on low speed and is brave nature

look the dmg from 1 endeavor, i failed too screenshot it before, otherwhise i had an better screenshot sorry <.<

but look how much dmg, and this ratticate was only level 51 and we were both on 100%

 

 

ps: its not even possible for my snorlax to damage that ratticates and let them use endeavor, since my eq onehits them, my return too

Edited April 24, 2015 by creepa7

[flavajabari]

A level 52 Raticate has 119 hp or more. However, Endeavor was not bugged last time I checked. Can you post a screen of what happened?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[creepa7]

here is the video i just made

http://uploaded.net/file/6i6d303x

 

sorry that its not in youtube, since i cant upload 125 mb with my low internet

so i used winrar and uploaded 3,5mb whats lot easier for me

Edited April 24, 2015 by creepa7

[Zehkar]

it happens every day on my route with vs seeker so dont worry, it wasnt just an 1 time case^^

it happenes every day at the ratticate and this is why i ask now

it it had happened 1 single time i wouldnt even care about and make a forum thread :P

currently i have cooldown on the trainers so i cant make a screenshot atm

 

 

edit: it is on route 3, but i dont know exactly which trainer it was

 

 

 

2. edit: ok i had not cooldown on every single npc on route 3 and there are multiple ones with ratticate

this time the same happened: 1. pokemon, i onehit it.... 2. the trainer send out ratticate... the ratticate gets the first attack cuz my snorlax is based on low speed and is brave nature

look the dmg from 1 endeavor, i failed too screenshot it before, otherwhise i had an better screenshot sorry <.<

but look how much dmg, and this ratticate was only level 51 and we were both on 100%

 

 

ps: its not even possible for my snorlax to damage that ratticates and let them use endeavor, since my eq onehits them, my return too

Endeavor puts your opponent's health equal to yours. Your health is 122 because Raticate's was 122 at full HP and it used Endeavor, thus making your Snorlax's HP the same as his.

 

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