Goldeneyes Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 You're better off investing in Health than defenses. Link to comment
GBush Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Why Should I do 140EVs on speed? LVL 50: Marowark 45 Spd-Base reaches 106SPD (if its jolly) and the next faster pokemon that is available here has got 48Base Speed (110Spd in total) Metagross Adamant 132Spd-EV = 107 Spd and 140Spd-EV = 108 Spd so is it to be faster than a 132SPD-EV metagross or are your calculations for lvl 100 Battles? I was doing calcs to out speed rhydon and marowak. But I've seen lots of builds lately with high HP investment s. I changed the recommended set. Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 arcanine wall9 (not originally my idea) Ability: Intimidate Item: Leftovers Nature: impish/relaxed EVs: 252 HP + 252 DEF Moveset: Extremespeed morning sun DK or Crunch Overheat / hp grass /hp elec wall set comes in on several threats and can force them out for bliss options add hyper voice for belly zard always run fire punch (blaze + stab op) and sub>endure. also tpunch/crunch/d claw for final move options. for cb dnite tpunch>fire punch. hits vapo/gyara/skarm ect.. hard and f punch only better vs fort/meta/scizor. all of which die to super with 1-3hko espeon now has shadowball as option giga and tpunch also good option for flygon. giga for swampert and t punch cause cb phsyical set spec offensive gard Ability:Trace Item: Leftovers Nature: timid Ivs and Evs: 252 hp/spa att + 252 Seed Moveset: psychic tbolt calm mind sball/wish/pain split/hyper voice/hp fight/hp ice for DD gyara, reversal +sub + dd + one attack and leichi is still viable as well as standard 3 attacks + dd. other options for jolt are fake tears, growth, lightscreen(especially if you want bulky), and swagger. more l8tr when i have time Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 sceptile cb set Items: choice band Nature: Jolly Ivs and Evs: 252 ATK/Speed. Moveset: leaf blade thunder punch Earthquake Pursuit / dragon claw /crunch dance set Items: Leftovers Nature: Jolly Ivs and Evs: 252 ATK / Speed Moveset: Sword dance leaf blade thunder punch dragon claw or EQ Venasaur standard Items: leftovers Nature: calm Ivs and Evs: 252 hp 252 spdef or split defs. some people like to invest some speed Moveset: synthesis giga drain / sludge bomb leech seed amnesia / lightscreen / sludge bomb time clause Items: Leftovers Nature: bold/calm Ivs and Evs: 252 hp and 252def/spdef depending on what you want to trap Moveset: leech seed block rest / synthesis amnesia(if max def) charm(if max sp def) idea is to trap something with no ww/roar that cant set up and kill vena then stall. things like jolteon, lax, vapo, weezing, non f punch dnite, ect... Lapras perish trapper Items: leftovers chesto Nature: bold/calm Ivs and Evs: 252 hp split defs depending on what you want to trap/nature Moveset: perish trap block protect / rest ice beam / surf / protect /rest Swellow CB Items: choice band Nature: jolly Ivs and Evs: 252 speed/att or 76 hp 252 att 180 speed(beats starmie) Moveset: double edge / return / facade wing attack quick attack / pursuit / endeavor quick attack / pursuit / endeavor Tauros CB Items: choice band Nature: jolly / adamant Ivs and Evs: 252 att/speed if jolly or 76 hp 252 att 180 speed (beats 100 base neutral nat max speed) Moveset: pursuit return / double edge EQ Quick attack / endeavor / flamethrower Weezing standard Items: leftovers Nature: bold / relaxed Ivs and Evs: 252 hp/def Moveset: willow wisp pain split / explosion / rest hp ice / sbomb /explosion tbolt / flamethrower additional options: haze, thunder(dat guaranteed 1hko vs gyara), destiny bond(f u curselax) more later....... Link to comment
themanone Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Here's a good medicham set: Medicham Ability: Pure Power Item: Choice band Nature: Jolly/Adamant Ivs and Evs: 252 Atk, 252 spe, 4 HP Moveset: High jump kick Fire punch Thunder punch Ice punch/Rockslide/Fake out Good at being a wallbreaker or a hit and run pokemon with fake out. Link to comment
DaftKitteh Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Ludicolo Ability: Swift Swim Item: Leftovers Nature: Adamant EV's: Attack: 252, hit at least 101 speed and the rest in HP Moveset: *Thunderpunch *Waterfall *Swords Dance *Rain Dance If you manage to get a Swords Dance and a Rain Dance out Waterfall is going to do some serious damage to everything. It's really fun but I haven't used it much cause it's kinda frail and needs 2 turns to set up, and still only 2hkos a lot of things. Dragonite Ability: inner focus Nature: Modest / Mild EVs: Mine is 252 HP 252 Sp Atk, but speed can be added to outspeed whatever threats. Moveset: *Thunderbolt *Ice Beam *Substitute *Focus Punch0- Atk Dragonite Focus Punch vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 228-270 (69 - 81.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Even modest focus punch hurts blissey which would otherwise completely stop sp atk nite. Mainly this setup is to surprise people. Alternatively I want to try superpower instead of focus punch, but haven't gotten around to it. EDIT : Innerfocus is the only ability for dnite, thanks draekyn o/ Edited February 11, 2015 by DaftKitteh GBush, fredrichnietze and Noad 3 Link to comment
Draekyn Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Dragonite Ability: Not sure what's best, but mine is inner focus Inner focus is its only ability here GBush and Goldeneyes 2 Link to comment
xilias Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Metagross[spoiler]This thing can take physical hits and really dish it out. This is a new top threat in our meta and is amazing at destroying most foes.Choice BanderAbility: Clear BodyItem: Choice BandNature: AdamantIvs and Evs: 252 HP + 252 ATK (some speed oif you want to beat certain things.)Moveset: Earthquake Thunder Punch / Fire Punch Meteor Mash Double Edge / Explosion Agility Set Item: Lum Berry / Leftovers Nature : AdamantIvs and Evs: 106 HP + 252 ATK + 96 Speed (Hits 102 speed stat at level 50 with this)Moveset: Agility Earthquake/Thunder Punch / Fire Punch Meteor Mash Double Edge / Explosion [/spoiler] i dont think that metagross can fire punch <_< Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 i dont think that metagross can fire punch <_< you have access to the largest compository of human knowledge ever. use it. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Fire_Punch_%28move%29 but yea your 100% right. Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Repository* too many bad memory's ;-; Link to comment
Goldeneyes Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 too many bad memory's ;-; Memories* dedegendut 1 Link to comment
GBush Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Just took everyones comments and updated again. Link to comment
Shaniqualela Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Agility Set Item: Lum Berry / Leftovers Nature : Adamant Ivs and Evs: 106 HP + 252 ATK + 96 Speed (Hits 102 speed stat at level 50 with this) Moveset: Agility Earthquake/Thunder Punch Meteor Mash Double Edge / Explosion This one doesn't even have all the evs lol.... themanone 1 Link to comment
GBush Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Agility Set Item: Lum Berry / Leftovers Nature : Adamant Ivs and Evs: 106 HP + 252 ATK + 96 Speed (Hits 102 speed stat at level 50 with this) Moveset: Agility Earthquake/Thunder Punch Meteor Mash Double Edge / Explosion This one doesn't even have all the evs lol.... Whoops 162 is what should be there. Link to comment
Shaniqualela Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Ludicolo Ability: Swift Swim Item: Leftovers Nature: Adamant EV's: Attack: 252, hit at least 101 speed and the rest in HP Moveset: *Thunderpunch *Waterfall *Swords Dance *Rain Dance If you manage to get a Swords Dance and a Rain Dance out Waterfall is going to do some serious damage to everything. It's really fun but I haven't used it much cause it's kinda frail and needs 2 turns to set up, and still only 2hkos a lot of things. Dragonite Ability: inner focus Nature: Modest / Mild EVs: Mine is 252 HP 252 Sp Atk, but speed can be added to outspeed whatever threats. Moveset: *Thunderbolt *Ice Beam *Substitute *Focus Punch0- Atk Dragonite Focus Punch vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 228-270 (69 - 81.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Even modest focus punch hurts blissey which would otherwise completely stop sp atk nite. Mainly this setup is to surprise people. Alternatively I want to try superpower instead of focus punch, but haven't gotten around to it. EDIT : Innerfocus is the only ability for dnite, thanks draekyn o/ 0 hp blissey o.O Link to comment
GBush Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) 0 hp blissey o.O The instance this would be used is if they are running a calm mind set. But I do all my calcs for walls having 252 in all defences with sp def & def nature. Edited February 12, 2015 by GBush Link to comment
MrSeverO Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 lol swellow dont got rights to a spoiler xD GBush 1 Link to comment
DaftKitteh Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) 0 hp blissey o.O didn't pay attention to the sets I was calcing against,0 Atk Dragonite Focus Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 256-302 (70.7 - 83.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery In this case it'd probably be better to run superpower since focus punch is only gonna work once and, 0 Atk Dragonite Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 204-242 (56.3 - 66.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery-1 0 Atk Dragonite Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 136-162 (37.5 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery two superpowers will do like 93 - 110% damage or something if you take into account that every time you superpower it does - 1 attack and defense EDIT : lel dragonite got banned Edited February 14, 2015 by DaftKitteh Link to comment
Asunamaster12 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 this guide isn't finished. forretress is now OU Link to comment
TheRealPhatiman Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 this guide isn't finished. forretress is now OU check what sub-forum this is under mate [spoiler]Derp.[/spoiler] Link to comment
GBush Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 Well, I updated this and it looks fairly completed now. I put in stats for everything and was wondering if it could get moved to guide tavern? Mods? Link to comment
Noad Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Moved to the main guide forum and added to the guide tavern index. I also removed the word "official" from the title so people do not think this is a staff made guide. GBush 1 Link to comment
xXDarkKnightXx Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 That shout out doe. CiX master race GBush 1 Link to comment
GAMBlT Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Is there a version of this for doubles? Id love to play but know nothing about it. Link to comment
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