Popular Post londark Posted January 24, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2015 What is the Speed? The Speed stat determines how quickly a Pokémon can act in battle. Pokémon with higher Speed will make a move before ones with lower Speed under normal conditions; in the case that two Pokémon have the same Speed, one of them will randomly go first. How to increase Speed in battle? There are some ways to increase your own pokemon Speed during a battle: Moves: Agility ( +2 ), Dragon Dance ( +1 ), Silver Wind/Ancient Power ( +1 at Random ) Abilities: Speed Boost ( +1 every turn ), Swift Swimm ( +2 only with Rain ), Clorophyll ( +2 only with Sun ) Items: Salac Berry ( +1 after activation ), Starf Berry ( +2 at Random ), Swift Choice Band ( aka Choice Scarf, gives +1 Speed and locks the pokemon holding it into the first move it uses ) Note that the Speed can be lowered as well, be it your own pokemon Speed or your opponent: Moves: Curse ( -1 User ), Icy Wind ( -1 Opponent ), Rock Tomb ( -1 Opponent ), Scary Face ( -2 Opponent ) ( there are other moves but with little competitive usage... ) Items: Mach Brace ( -2 to Holder ) Status: Paralisys will reduce the Speed to 25% of its original value Priority Every action that takes place in battle has a value called Priority. This values dictactes what action is going to be performed first. Higher Priority Actions will always take place before lower Priority ones. In case 2 action of the same Priority are used on the same turn the order will be decided by the Higher Speed Stat of the Pokemon Pokemmo Priority List ( from officila Changelog 19/08/2014): +7. Pursuit (If target opponent switches, otherwise priority is 0) +6. Switching out, using items, escaping, charging of Focus Punch +5. Helping Hand +4. Detect, Magic Coat, Protect, Snatch +3. Endure, Fake Out, Follow Me +2. ExtremeSpeed, +1. Bide, Mach Punch, Quick Attack 0. All other moves -1. Vital Throw -2. None -3. Focus Punch -4. Revenge -5. Counter, Mirror Coat -6. Roar, Whirlwind -7. Fleeing Notable stuff: This list was made keeping in mind a Level 50 Metagame, and, while most Speed hierarchies are still valid at level 100, some aren't. For example +252 Magneton at +1 will reach 201 Speed at level 50 outspeeding the 200 Speed Stat Tier, but, at level 100 this isn't true. So if you use this guide for Showdown or level 100 battle be carefull Remeber to consider the IVs and Hidden Power Types. Some Hidden Power ( Fighting/Fire for example ) require an even Speed IV, meaning that said pokemon won't be able to reach its Maximum potential speed. Keep this in mind when you battle, if your opponent has an Hidden Power Fire Alakazam and you have a Full Speed Dugtrio you won't risk a Speed Tie cause Alakazam will be slower. OrangeManiac, TheArchon, Magnet and 27 others 29 1 Link to comment
londark Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 OU Speed Tier Till the other tiers are out, this will contain every pokemon aviable Notes: All IVs are considered 31 + means a +Speed nature ( Hasty, Naive, Jolly Timid ) - means a -Speed Nature ( Relaxed, Brave, Sassy, Quite ) No +/- mean a Neutral Speed Nature ( all the rest ) [252] Are the EVs invested in Speed Blue Pokemon are banned from OU Tier 1 ( 233 - 200 ) Spoiler 233: [+252] Ninjask 212: [252] Ninjask 211: [+252] Electrode 200: [+252] Aerodactyl, Jolteon, Crobat, Mewtwo Tier 2 ( 199 - 150 ) Spoiler 198: [+0] Ninjask 194: [+252] Swellow 192: [252] Electrode 189: [+252] Dugtrio, Alakazam, Sceptyle 183: [+252] Starmie, Persian, Sneasel 182: [252] Aerodactyl, Jolteon, Crobat, Mewtwo 180: [0] Ninjask 178: [+252] Gengar, Tauros, Jumpluff, Espeon 177: [252] Swellow 176: [+0] Electrode 172: [+252] Kadabra, Rapidash, Scyther, Electabuzz, Manetric [252] Dugtrio, Alakazam, Sceptyle 167: [+252] Salamance, Charizard, Fearow, Ninetales, Tentacruel, Dodrio, Miltank, Linoone, Slaking, Flygon, Raichu [252] Starmie, Persian, Sneasel 163: [+252] Raticate, Luvdisc 162: [252] Gengar, Tauros, Jumpluff, Espeon 161: [+252] Diglet, Primeape, Arcanine, Haunter, Jynx, Xatu, Yanma, Houndoom, Plusel, Minun, Sharpedo 160: [0] Electrode 159: [+252] Magmar 157: [+252] Murkrow, Pidgeot 156: At + 1 you'll Outspeed the entire Metagame 156: [+252] Pikachu, Venomoth, Kangaskhan, Mr.Mime, Furret, Vigoroth, Zangose 152: [+252] Hitmonlee [252] Salamance, Charizard, Fearow, Ninetales, Tentacruel, Dodrio, Miltank, Linoone, Slaking, Flygon, Raichu 150: [+252] Nidoking, Golduck, Seadra, Pinsir, Ledian, Aimpom, Missdreavus, Giraffaring, Gligar, Shitfish, Heracross, Kingdra, Stantler, Volbeat, Illumise [0] Aerodactyl, Jolteon, Crobat, Mewtwo Tier 3 ( 149 - 120 ) Spoiler 149: [252] Raticate, Luvdisc 147: [252] Diglet, Primeape, Arcanine, Haunter, Jynx, Xatu, Yanma, Houndoom, Plusel, Minun, Sharpedo 146: [+252] Gyarados 145: [+252] Venusaur, Arbok, Kabutops, Dragonite, Blaziken, Shiftry, Gardevoir, Medicham, Gumpig, Altaria, Glalie [252] Magmar [0] Swellow 143: [+252] Blastoise [252] Murkrow, Pidgeot 142: [252] Pikachu, Venomoth, Kangaskhan, Mr.Mime, Furret, Vigoroth, Zangose 140:[+252] Nidoqueen, Hitmonchan [0] Dugtrio, Alakazam, Sceptyle 139: [+252] Beedrill, Kingler, Delibird, Smeargle, Claydoll, Absoll [252] Hitmonlee 137: [252] Nidoking, Golduck, Seadra, Pinsir, Ledian, Aimpom, Missdreavus, Giraffaring, Gligar, Shitfish, Heracross, Kingdra, Stantler, Volbeat, Illumise 135: [0] Starmie, Persian, Sneasel 134: At +1 you'll Outspeed the entire Metagame except Ninjask and +252 Electrode 134: [+252] Butterfree, Poliwrath, Victreebell, Magneton, Dewgong, Cloyster, Nocthowl, Politoed, Mantine, Skarmory, Hitmontop, Mightyiena, Ludicolo, Breloom, Delcatty, Lunatone, Solrock, Castform, Metagross 133: [252] Gyarados 132: [+252] Seaking, Exploud [252] Venusaur, Arbok, Kabutops, Dragonite, Blaziken, Shiftry, Gardevoir, Medicham, Gumpig, Altaria, Glalie 130: [+252] Hypno, Lanturn [252] Blastoise [0] Gengar, Tauros, Jumpluff, Espeon 128: [+252] Sandslash, Vaporeon, Flareon, Umbreon, Scizor, Beutifly, Dustox, Pelliper, Roselia, Seeviper, Banette, Chimeco, Walrein [252] Nidoqueen, Hitmonchan 127:[252] Beedrill, Kingler, Delibird, Smeargle, Claydoll, Absoll 124: [+252] Tyrannitar 123:[+252] Clefable, Farfetch, Weezing, Tangela, Lapras, Porygon2, Swampert, Masquerain, Wailord, Spinda, Whiscash 122:[252] Butterfree, Poliwrath, Victreebell, Magneton, Dewgong, Cloyster, Nocthowl, Politoed, Mantine, Skarmory, Hitmontop, Mightyiena, Ludicolo, Breloom, Delcatty, Lunatone, Solrock, Castform, Metagross 120:[252] Seaking, Exploud [0] Salamance, Charizard, Fearow, Ninetales, Tentacruel, Dodrio, Miltank, Linoone, Slaking, Flygon, Raichu Tier 4 ( 119 - 100 ) Spoiler 119: [252] Hypno, Lanturn 117: At +2 you'll outspeed the entire Metagame 117: [+252] Machamp, Eggxecutor, Omastar, Ampharos, Ursaring, Blissey, Swalot, Cacturne, Crawdaunt, Relicanth [252] Sandslash, Vaporeon, Flareon, Umbreon, Scizor, Beutifly, Dustox, Pelliper, Roselia, Seeviper, Banette, Chimeco, Walrein 115: [0] Diglet, Primeape, Arcanine, Haunter, Jynx, Xatu, Yanma, Houndoom, Plusel, Minun, Sharpedo 114: [+252] Huntail, Gorebyss 113: [+252] Tropius [252] Tyrannitar [0] Magmar 112: [+252] Vileplume, Muk, Bellossom, Azzumarill, Piloswine, Donphan, Haryiama, Sableye, Mawile, Aggron [252] Clefable, Farfetch, Weezing, Tangela, Lapras, Porygon2, Swampert, Masquerain, Wailord, Spinda, Whiscash 111: [0] Murkrow, Pidgeot 110: [+252] Ditto, Uknown [0] Pikachu, Venomoth, Kangaskhan, Mr.Mime, Furret, Vigoroth, Zangose 107: [252] Machamp, Eggxecutor, Omastar, Ampharos, Ursaring, Blissey, Swalot, Cacturne, Crawdaunt, Relicanth [0] Hitmonlee 106: [+252] Wiglytuff, Golem, Marowak, Dunsparce, Granbull, Octillery, Armaldo 105: [0] Nidoking, Golduck, Seadra, Pinsir, Ledian, Aimpom, Missdreavus, Giraffaring, Gligar, Shitfish, Heracross, Kingdra, Stantler, Volbeat, Illumise 104: [+252] Cradily [252] Huntail, Gorebyss 103: [252] Tropius [-0] Arcanine 102: [252] Vileplume, Muk, Bellossom, Azzumarill, Piloswine, Donphan, Haryiama, Sableye, Mawile, Aggron 101: At +2 you'll outspeed the entire Metagame except Ninjask and +252 Electrode 101: [+252] Rhydon, Porygon, Aryados, Togetic, Forretress. Shedinja, Camerupt, Kleclon [0] Gyarados 100: [252] Ditto, Uknown [0] Venusaur, Arbok, Kabutops, Dragonite, Blaziken, Shiftry, Gardevoir, Medicham, Gumpig, Altaria, Glalie Tier 5 ( 99 - 75 ) Spoiler 98: [0] Blastoise 97: [252] Wiglytuff, Golem, Marowak, Dunsparce, Granbull, Octillery, Armaldo 96: [0] Nidoqueen, Hitmonchan 95: [+252] Quagsire, Corsola [252] Cradily [0] Beedrill, Kingler, Delibird, Smeargle, Claydoll, Absoll 93: [+252] Wobbufett 92: [252] Rhydon, Porygon, Aryados, Togetic, Forretress. Shedinja, Camerupt, Kleclon 90: [+252] Shitsect, Slowbro, Slowking, Lickytung, Snorlax, Sunflora, Steelix, Magcargo, Nosepass [0] Butterfree, Poliwrath, Victreebell, Magneton, Dewgong, Cloyster, Nocthowl, Politoed, Mantine, Skarmory, Hitmontop, Mightyiena, Ludicolo, Breloom, Delcatty, Lunatone, Solrock, Castform, Metagross [-0] Dragonite 88: [0] Seaking, Exploud [-0] Blastoise 87: [252] Quagsire, Corsola [0] Hypno, Lanturn 85: [252] Wobbufett [0] Sandslash, Vaporeon, Flareon, Umbreon, Scizor, Beutifly, Dustox, Pelliper, Roselia, Seeviper, Banette, Chimeco, Walrein [-0] Claydoll 84: [+252] Dusclops 82: [+252] Wynaut [252] Shitsect, Slowbro, Slowking, Lickytung, Snorlax, Sunflora, Steelix, Magcargo, Nosepass 81: [0] Tyrannitar [-0]Cloyster 80: [0] Clefable, Farfetch, Weezing, Tangela, Lapras, Porygon2, Swampert, Masquerain, Wailord, Spinda, Whiscash 79: [+252] Torkoal 77: [252] Dusclops 76: [-0] Walrein, Flareon 75: [252] Wyanaut [0] Machamp, Eggxecutor, Omastar, Ampharos, Ursaring, Blissey, Swalot, Cacturne, Crawdaunt, Relicanth Tier 6 ( 74 - 0 ) Spoiler 72: [252] Torkoal [0] Huntail, Gorebyss [-0] Weezing, Swampert, Porygon2, Tyrannitar 71: [0] Tropius 70: [0] Vileplume, Muk, Bellossom, Azzumarill, Piloswine, Donphan, Haryiama, Sableye, Mawile, Aggron 68: [+252] Trapinch [0] Ditto, Uknown 65: [0] Wiglytuff, Golem, Marowak, Dunsparce, Granbull, Octillery, Armaldo 63: [0] Cradily 62: [+252] Shuckle [252] Trapinch 60: [0] Rhydon, Porygon, Aryados, Togetic, Forretress. Shedinja, Camerupt, Kleclon 57: [252] Shuckle 55: [0] Quagsire, Corsola 53: [0] Wobbufett 50: [0] Shitsect, Slowbro, Slowking, Lickytung, Snorlax, Sunflora, Steelix, Magcargo, Nosepass 49: [-0]Quagsire 45: [0] Dusclops [-0] Snorlax 43: [0] Wynaut 40: [0] Torkoal 30: [0] Trapinch 25: [0] Shuckle [+252] Your Mum Vaeldras, Tamex, KingBowser and 13 others 15 1 Link to comment
londark Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 UU Speed Tier Notes: All IVs are considered 31 + means a +Speed nature ( Hasty, Naive, Jolly Timid ) - means a -Speed Nature ( Relaxed, Brave, Sassy, Quite ) No +/- mean a Neutral Speed Nature ( all the rest ) [252] Are the EVs invested in Speed Tier 1 ( 233 - 200 ) Spoiler 233: [+252] Ninjask 212: [252] Ninjask 211: [+252] Electrode 200: [+252] Crobat Tier 2 ( 199 - 150 ) Spoiler 198: [+0] Ninjask 194: [+252] Swellow 192: [252] Electrode 189: [+252] Sceptile 183: [+252] Persian, Sneasel 182: [252] Crobat 180: [0] Ninjask 178: [+252] Jumpluff 177: [252] Swellow 176: [+0] Electrode 172: [+252] Kadabra, Rapidash, Scyther, Electabuzz, Manetric [252] Sceptile 167: [+252] Fearow, Ninetales, Tentacruel, Raichu, Miltank [252] Persian, Sneasel 163: [+252] Raticate, Luvdisc 162: [252] Jumpluff 161: [+252] Diglett, Primeape, Xatu, Yanma, Plusle, Minun, Sharpedo 160: [0] Electrode 159: [+252] Magmar 157: [+252] Murkrow, Pidgeot 156: At + 1 you'll Outspeed the entire Metagame 156: [+252] Pikachu, Venomoth, Mr.Mime, Furret, Vigoroth. 152: [+252] Hitmonlee [252] Fearow, Ninetales, Tentacruel, Raichu, Miltank 150: [+252] Nidoking, Golduck, Seadra, Pinsir, Ledian, Aimpom, Missdreavus, Giraffaring, Gligar, Stantler, Volbeat, Illumise [0] Crobat Tier 3 ( 149 - 120 ) Spoiler 149: [252] Raticate, Luvdisc 147: [252] Diglet, Primeape, Jynx, Xatu, Yanma, Plusel, Minun, Sharpedo 145: [+252] Arbok, Kabutops, Shiftry, Gumpig, Altaria, Glalie, Gardevoir [252] Magmar [0] Swellow 143: [+252] Blastoise [252] Murkrow, Pidgeot 142: [252] Pikachu, Venomoth, Mr.Mime, Furret, Vigoroth 140:[+252] Nidoqueen, Hitmonchan [0] Sceptyle 139: [+252] Beedrill, Kingler, Delibird, Smeargle, Claydoll, Absoll [252] Hitmonlee 137: [252] Nidoking, Golduck, Seadra, Pinsir, Ledian, Aimpom, Misdreavus, Giraffaring, Gligar, Shitfish, Stantler, Volbeat, Illumise 135: [0] Persian, Sneasel 134: At +1 you'll Outspeed the entire Metagame except Ninjask and +252 Electrode 134: [+252] Butterfree, Poliwrath, Victreebell, Dewgong, Noctowl, Politoed, Mantine, Hitmontop, Mighthyena. Breloom, Delcatty, Lunatone, Solrock, Castform 132: [+252] Seaking, Exploud [252] Arbok, Kabutops, Shiftry, Gumpig, Altaria, Glalie, Gardevoir 130: [+252] Hypno, Lanturn [252] Blastoise [0] Jumpluff 128: [+252] Sandslash, Flareon, Beautifly, Dustox, Pelliper, Roselia, Seviper, Banette, Chimecho, Walrein,Scizor [252] Nidoqueen, Hitmonchan 127:[252] Beedrill, Kingler, Delibird, Smeargle, Claydol, Absol 123:[+252] Clefable, Farfetch, Tangela, Lapras, Masquerain, Wailord, Spinda, Whiscash 122:[252] Butterfree, Poliwrath, Victreebell, Dewgong, Nocthowl, Politoed, Mantine, Hitmontop, Mightyiena, Breloom, Delcatty, Lunatone, Solrock, Castform 120:[252] Seaking, Exploud [0] Fearow, Ninetales, Tentacruel, Raichu, Miltank Tier 4 ( 119 - 100 ) Spoiler 119: [252] Hypno, Lanturn 117: At +2 you'll outspeed the entire Metagame 117: [+252] Eggxecutor, Omastar, Ampharos, Swalot, Cacturne, Crawdaunt, Relicanth [252] Sandslash, Flareon, Beautifly, Dustox, Pelliper, Roselia, Seviper, Banette, Chimeco, Walrein, Scizor 115: [0] Diglett, Primeape, Jynx, Xatu, Yanma, Plusle, Minun, Sharpedo 114: [+252] Huntail, Gorebyss 113: [+252] Tropius [0] Magmar 112: [+252] Vileplume, Muk, Bellossom, Azumarill, Piloswine, Donphan, Sableye, Mawile, Aggron [252] Clefable, Farfetch, Tangela, Lapras, Masquerain, Wailord, Spinda, Whiscash 111: [0] Murkrow, Pidgeot 110: [+252] Ditto, Uknown [0] Pikachu, Venomoth, Mr.Mime, Furret, Vigoroth 107: [252] Eggxecutor, Omastar, Ampharos, Swalot, Cacturne, Crawdaunt, Relicanth [0] Hitmonlee 106: [+252] Wiglytuff, Golem, Dunsparce, Granbull, Octillery, Armaldo 105: [0] Nidoking, Golduck, Seadra, Pinsir, Ledian, Aimpom, Missdreavus, Giraffaring, Gligar, Shitfish, Stantler, Volbeat, Illumise 104: [+252] Cradily [252] Huntail, Gorebyss 103: [252] Tropius 102: [252] Vileplume, Muk, Bellossom, Azzumarill, Piloswine, Donphan, Sableye, Mawile, Aggron 101: At +2 you'll outspeed the entire Metagame except Ninjask and +252 Electrode 101: [+252] Aryados, Togetic. Shedinja, Camerupt, Kleclon 100: [252] Ditto, Uknown [0] Arbok, Kabutops, Shiftry, Gumpig, Altaria, Glalie, Gardevoir Tier 5 ( 99 - 75 ) Spoiler 98: [0] Blastoise 97: [252] Wiglytuff, Golem, Dunsparce, Granbull, Octillery, Armaldo 96: [0] Nidoqueen, Hitmonchan 95: [+252] Quagsire, Corsola [252] Cradily [0] Beedrill, Kingler, Delibird, Smeargle, Claydoll, Absoll 92: [252] Aryados, Togetic, Shedinja, Camerupt, Kleclon 90: [+252] Shitsect, Lickytung, Sunflora, Steelix, Magcargo, Nosepass, Slowking [0] Butterfree, Poliwrath, Victreebell, Dewgong, Nocthowl, Politoed, Mantine, Hitmontop, Mightyiena, Breloom, Delcatty, Lunatone, Solrock, Castform 88: [0] Seaking, Exploud [-0] Blastoise 87: [252] Quagsire, Corsola [0] Hypno, Lanturn 85: [0] Sandslash, Flareon, Beutifly, Dustox, Pelliper, Roselia, Seeviper, Banette, Chimeco, Walrein, Umbreon, Scizor [-0] Claydoll 82: [+252] Wynaut [252] Shitsect, Lickytung, Sunflora, Steelix, Magcargo, Nosepass, Slowking 80: [0] Clefable, Farfetch, Tangela, Lapras, Masquerain, Wailord, Spinda, Whiscash 79: [+252] Torkoal 76: [-0] Walrein, Flareon 75: [252] Wyanaut [0] Eggxecutor, Omastar, Ampharos, Swalot, Cacturne, Crawdaunt, Relicanth Tier 6 ( 74 - 0 ) Spoiler 72: [252] Torkoal [0] Huntail, Gorebyss 71: [0] Tropius 70: [0] Vileplume, Muk, Bellossom, Azzumarill, Piloswine, Donphan, Sableye, Mawile, Aggron 68: [+252] Trapinch [0] Ditto, Uknown 65: [0] Wiglytuff, Golem, Dunsparce, Granbull, Octillery, Armaldo 63: [0] Cradily 62: [+252] Shuckle [252] Trapinch 60: [0] Porygon, Aryados, Togetic, Shedinja, Camerupt, Kleclon 57: [252] Shuckle 55: [0] Quagsire, Corsola 50: [0] Shitsect, Lickytung. Sunflora, Steelix, Magcargo, Nosepass, Slowking 49: [-0]Quagsire 43: [0] Wynaut 40: [0] Torkoal 30:[0] Trapinc 25: [0] Shuckle [+252] Your Mum dedegendut, Noad, FlowX and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment
londark Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 NU Speed Tier Notes: All IVs are considered 31 + means a +Speed nature ( Hasty, Naive, Jolly Timid ) - means a -Speed Nature ( Relaxed, Brave, Sassy, Quite ) No +/- mean a Neutral Speed Nature ( all the rest ) [252] Are the EVs invested in Speed Tier 1 ( 233 - 200 ) Spoiler 233: [+252] Ninjask 212: [252] Ninjask 211: [+252] Electrode Tier 2 ( 199 - 150 ) Spoiler 198: [+0] Ninjask 192: [252] Electrode 183: [+252] Persian 180: [0] Ninjask 178: [+252] Jumpluff 176: [+0] Electrode 172: [+252] Kadabra, Rapidash, Scyther, Electabuzz 167: [+252] Raichu [252] Persian 163: [+252] Raticate, Luvdisc 162: [252] Jumpluff 161: [+252] Diglet, Primeape, Yanma, Plusle, Minun, Sharpedo, Xatu 160: [0] Electrode 159: [+252] Magmar 157: [+252] Murkrow, Pidgeot 156: At + 1 you'll Outspeed the entire Metagame 156: [+252] Venomoth, Mr.Mime, Furret, Vigoroth 152: [252] Raichu 150: [+252] Golduck, Seadra, Pinsir, Ledian, Aimpom, Giraffaring, Stantler, Volbeat, Illumise, Gligar, Misdreavus Tier 3 ( 149 - 120 ) Spoiler 149: [252] Raticate, Luvdisc 147: [252] Diglet, Primeape, Yanma, Plusle, Minun, Sharpedo, Xatu 145: [+252] Arbok, Kabutops, Shiftry, Gumpig [252] Magmar 143: [252] Murkrow, Pidgeot 142: [252]Venomoth, Mr.Mime, Furret, Vigoroth 140:[+252] Hitmonchan 139: [+252] Beedrill, Delibird, Smeargle, Kingler 137: [252] Golduck, Seadra, Pinsir, Ledian, Aimpom, Giraffaring, Shitfish, Stantler, Volbeat, Illumise, Gligar, Missdreavus 135: [0] Persian 134: At +1 you'll Outspeed the entire Metagame except Ninjask and +252 Electrode 134: [+252] Butterfree, Poliwrath, Victreebell, Dewgong, Nocthowl, Politoed, Mantine, Hitmontop, Mightyiena, Delcatty, Lunatone, Solrock, Castform 132: [+252] Seaking, Exploud [252] Arbok, Kabutops, Shiftry, Gumpig 130: [0] Jumpluff 128: [+252] Sandslash, Beutifly, Dustox, Pelliper, Roselia, Seeviper, Banette, Chimeco, Walrein, Flareon [252] Hitmonchan 127:[252] Beedrill, Delibird, Smeargle, Kingler 123: At + 1 you'll Outspeed the entire "usefull" or "viable" Metagame ( everything slower than +252 Persian ) 123:[+252] Farfetch, Tangela, Masquerain, Wailord, Spinda, Whiscash 122:[252] Butterfree, Poliwrath, Victreebell, Dewgong, Nocthowl, Politoed, Mantine, Hitmontop, Mightyiena, Delcatty, Lunatone, Solrock, Castform 120:[252] Seaking, Exploud [0] Raichu Tier 4 ( 119 - 100 ) Spoiler 117: At +2 you'll outspeed the entire Metagame 117: [+252] Swalot, Cacturne, Relicanth [252] Sandslash, Beutifly, Dustox, Pelliper, Roselia, Seeviper, Banette, Chimeco, Walrein, Flareon 115: [0] Diglet, Primeape, Yanma, Plusel, Minun, Sharpedo, Xatu 114: [+252] Huntail, Gorebyss 113: [+252] Tropius [0] Magmar 112: [+252]Bellossom, Piloswine, Sableye, Mawile [252] Farfetch, Tangela, Masquerain, Wailord, Spinda, Whiscash 111: [0] Murkrow, Pidgeot 110: [+252] Ditto, Uknown [0]Venomoth, Mr.Mime, Furret, Vigoroth 107: [252] Swalot, Cacturne, Relicanth 106: [+252] Wiglytuff, Golem, Dunsparce, Octillery 105: [0] Golduck, Seadra, Pinsir, Ledian, Aimpom, Giraffaring, Shitfish, Stantler, Volbeat, Illumise, Gligar, Missdreavus 104: [252] Huntail, Gorebyss 103: [252] Tropius 102: [252]Bellossom, Piloswine, Sableye, Mawile 101: At +2 you'll outspeed the entire Metagame except Ninjask and +252 Electrode 101: [+252] Porygon, Aryados, Togetic. Shedinja, Camerupt, Kleclon 100: [252] Ditto, Uknown [0] Arbok, Kabutops, Shiftry, Gumpig Tier 5 ( 99 - 75 ) Spoiler 97: [252] Wiglytuff, Golem, Dunsparce, Octillery 96: [0] Hitmonchan 95: [+252] Corsola [0] Beedrill, Delibird, Smeargle, Kingler 92: At + 2 you'll Outspeed the entire "usefull" or "viable" Metagame ( everything slower than +252 Persian ) 92: [252] Porygon, Aryados, Togetic, Shedinja, Camerupt, Kleclon 90: [+252] Shitsect, Lickytung, Sunflora, Magcargo, Nosepass [0] Butterfree, Poliwrath, Victreebell, Dewgong, Nocthowl, Politoed, Mantine, Hitmontop, Mightyiena, Delcatty, Lunatone, Solrock, Castform 88: [0] Seaking, Exploud 87: [252] Corsola 85: [0] Sandslash, Beutifly, Dustox, Pelliper, Roselia, Seeviper, Banette, Chimeco, Walrein, Flareon 82: [+252] Wynaut [252] Shitsect, Lickytung, Sunflora, Magcargo, Nosepass 80: [0] Farfetch, Tangela, Masquerain, Wailord, Spinda, Whiscash 79: [+252] Torkoal 76: [-0] Walrein 75: [252] Wyanaut [0] Swalot, Cacturne, Relicanth Tier 6 ( 74 - 0 ) Spoiler 72: [252] Torkoal [0] Huntail, Gorebyss 71: [0] Tropius 70: [0]Bellossom, Piloswine, Sableye, Mawile 68: [0] Ditto, Uknown 65: [0] Wiglytuff, Golem, Dunsparce, Octillery 62: [+252] Shuckle 60: [0] Porygon, Aryados, Togetic, Shedinja, Camerupt, Kleclon 57: [252] Shuckle 55: [0] Corsola 50: [0] Shitsect, Lickytung. Sunflora, Magcargo, Nosepass 43: [0] Wynaut 40: [0] Torkoal 25: [0] Shuckle [+252] Your Mum Jerryzoo, Tamex, TKCB and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment
londark Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) Go fast, or get Rekt Edited January 24, 2015 by londar PepperPoots, Jerryzoo, Tamex and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Noad Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Awesome Londar! This will be super helpful, thanks for taking the time to do this. :) Link to comment
londark Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) As of right now the list includes every fully evolved pokemon and some notable NFE ( more will be eventually added in the rispective Tier once Tiers are a thing ). Every pokemon has the speed stat with: +252 252 0 Will add some natable speed for -Spd natured pokemon later Now a question...The list include some "Top Lel" speed Stats like full Speed Shuckle or Steelix....Would you like me to keep them, and maybe adding the base speed to group them togheter, or should i remove the most "Lel" ones? EDIT: Also, if you guya have any suggestion or found any mistake, let me know, thanks Edited January 24, 2015 by londar Tamex 1 Link to comment
DrCraig Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Thank you so much Londar! Link to comment
Noad Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I like that you have the low speed Pokemon included, I say keep them in my opinion. If you are done for now, would you like me to move this to the main forum? Jerryzoo 1 Link to comment
Kiliminati Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 , Shitfish, LOL. Great guide yo. PepperPoots, londark and Kazooka 3 Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 i love u londar. the old one has been bothering me for ages but i just didnt have time to do anything about it. also can we add certain speeds that are often hit like 134 speed jolly DD gyara/dnite and 91 speed lanturn(beat the 70 base's) ect... to give newish players idea's of speed stats to hit to beat certain targets? Link to comment
londark Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 there are red placeholders for speed stats like 134 and 101....About specific EVs and Speed Stats i would personally wait for some tier developments Link to comment
Kazooka Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Bless you child. jayfeatskydd and RysPicz 2 Link to comment
londark Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 LF Inputs and opinions on pokemon that should have a -Nature 0 EVs speed added Link to comment
EyWey Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 You forget 70 base speed pokemons 90: Ludicolo, Skarmory, Cloyster, Hitmontop, Magneton, Mantine, Politoed, Poliwrath, Victreebell, Mawile, Piloswine, Sableye londark 1 Link to comment
londark Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 You forget 70 base speed pokemons Right, thanks fixed Link to comment
Noad Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Londar, feel free to send me a PM when you feel like you have finished this completely. Nice work, players will find this really useful. Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 LF Inputs and opinions on pokemon that should have a -Nature 0 EVs speed added weezing, swampert, dnite, blastoise, snorlax, arcanine, cloyster, quagsire, pory2, claydol, walrein, maybe tytr? pokes that can go mixed and might choose bulky + -speed londark 1 Link to comment
londark Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 weezing, swampert, dnite, blastoise, snorlax, arcanine, cloyster, quagsire, pory2, claydol, walrein, maybe tytr? pokes that can go mixed and might choose bulky + -speed Added all of them....altho i can agree with most of them, will people really run a -Speed Pory2 for example? Or even a Quag considering it can just go full physical with the split and get the same coverage, barring some weird Hp? Anything else? Was thinking, some poverty -Spd Vapos? Pursuit Trapper Umbreon etc? Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Added all of them....altho i can agree with most of them, will people really run a -Speed Pory2 for example? Or even a Quag considering it can just go full physical with the split and get the same coverage, barring some weird Hp? Anything else? Was thinking, some poverty -Spd Vapos? Pursuit Trapper Umbreon etc? poverty vapos arent the norm and umbreon sucks so bad atm in ou that it's unlikely to show at all. probably going to UU. edit pory2 phsyical is great way to deal with several strong spec walls. stab return/facade is 153 and 210 power(with status) and off of 80 base power thats nothing to laugh at. for quag there is weird hp's and some people want mixed for things like doubles muddy water or hp's. Edited January 30, 2015 by fredrichnietze londark 1 Link to comment
Noad Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I've been told that this guide is complete so I am moving it to the main forum and adding it to the Guide Tavern Index. Thank you for your hard work, Londar. Link to comment
londark Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Added UU tier Edited March 18, 2015 by londark Sleepy, JonazDK, Kazooka and 1 other 4 Link to comment
londark Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 Removed Miltank and Umbreon from UU Added Sceptyle to UU Added Green Color for Suspect Tested Pokemon Added Snorlax to Suspect Tested Pokemon Arimanius, Kazooka and Noad 3 Link to comment
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