Popular Post CZD Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2015 I was wondering. Is staff doing this on purpose? The new breeding doesn't allow us to make money from it anymore. Well, some still sell their breeds but I feel like it's just a very few people. It seems like no one has pokeyen, and the ones that actually have some cash, don't really want to spend it on anything else than UTs. No one buys shinys anymore excepted for very good deals. The economy's fucked up. It's supposed to be based on pokeyen but when there's no way to earn some, excepted payday-ing (which is repetitive, boring af and not really worth it, since you have to spend like 4hours to get around 500k) it's just not looking good at all long-term wise. I didn't post this in Suggestion Box, cause tbh, I have no idea what staff could do to fix this situation, excepted increasing pay-outs from payday-ing, which wouldn't change the fact that it's very repetitive and boring... But yeah I do think you guys need to do something. You can't just let everyone go bankrupt. There's really something wrong with this economy IMO. Discuss. Affan07, Blue, LeaderMagma and 34 others 37 Link to comment
Munya Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Reducing the cost of breeding will fix it for the most part, at least people being broke, but still needs to be another way to make money. sweendog, FuzzyRegirock, ChampionLaw and 7 others 10 Link to comment
Anjovies Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 feels.png FuzzyRegirock and necund 2 Link to comment
Quakkz Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I was wondering. Is staff doing this on purpose? The new breeding doesn't allow us to make money from it anymore. Well, some still sell their breeds but I feel like it's just a very few people. It seems like no one has pokeyen, and the ones that actually have some cash, don't really want to spend it on anything else than UTs. No one buys shinys anymore excepted for very good deals. The economy's fucked up. It's supposed to be based on pokeyen but when there's no way to earn some, excepted payday-ing (which is repetitive, boring af and not really worth it, since you have to spend like 4hours to get around 500k) it's just not looking good at all long-term wise. I didn't post this in Suggestion Box, cause tbh, I have no idea what staff could do to fix this situation, excepted increasing pay-outs from payday-ing, which wouldn't change the fact that it's very repetitive and boring... But yeah I do think you guys need to do something. You can't just let everyone go bankrupt. There's really something wrong with this economy IMO. Discuss. 500k in 4 hours via paydaying? oO i make 80k a hour max ._. karimologia, Jombi, ChampionLaw and 6 others 9 Link to comment
OldKeith Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I like that cash has some actual value now, and shiny trading is not profitable (I'd think twice before paying cash for a shiny now, even if the deal is seemingly good). However, I do agree that making money should be less of a grind, and more innovative. ShinyGligar 1 Link to comment
CZD Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 500k in 4 hours via paydaying? oO i make 80k a hour max ._. lel yeah well I didn't really do the math. I made that up but yeah, even worse then :) Link to comment
JonazDK Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 srs we really need need to reduce the cost of breeding ALOT and it can't wait to next update in 6 months... Sylou 1 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Surely improving the breeding the way that ThinkNice has suggested would help us all to have a healthier economy, but I still see a huge problem of how are we supposed to make money when the most important mechanic in the game for almost everyone has became the moneysink rather than profitable thingy. I like that cash has some actual value now, and shiny trading is not profitable (I'd think twice before paying cash for a shiny now, even if the deal is seemingly good). However, I do agree that making money should be less of a grind, and more innovative. Thing is, they really have to think before making a decision so the money grind will not be abusable through alts so people like myself or Quakkz won't benefit from it more than others :v I would personally think about making Amulet Coin work with Pay Day or bring back it's original mechanic (x2 payouts overall). It's still a grind but definietly less painful compared to what we have right now. Or that it works multiple times in trainer battles. Paydaying the trainers with lvl 50-60s would earn ~~2500-3000 from pure paydaying + the eventual boosted amount from Amulet Coin. Maybe also boosting the prices of some non-consumable "jewelery" (I like calling them like that :D ) items such as Nugget, Pearl, Big Pearl?* That would make people go into the wild and start hunting Shellders and Meows to actually get those items and sell to NPC, but it would have to be comparable with paydaying. I apologize CZD for somewhat off-topicing in your thread and turning it into "suggestions about new money grind methods" but I honestly don't feel like making a separate thread for that :( [spoiler]*- I'm pretty aware of the fact that this might sound a little biased from a person who collects all of those 3 mentioned items, but I'm collecting them only for purpose of collecting. Some people like shinies, some like brainless grinding for shards/ money, I like jewelery :lol: [/spoiler] Link to comment
twofist Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 maybe like let the e4 have a little money again and up the timer by like 20 minutes or so (since we have 2 e4's now anyway) Jombi and Jerryzoo 2 Link to comment
londark Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Someone should suggests Daily Tasks that gives out money once completed ( would do so myself, but i'm with the phone right meow ) D4NTH3M4N, ShinyGligar and Jombi 3 Link to comment
Excelimpulse Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I still think selling pokes that are caught based on rarity would be a new fun way to earn money. Link to comment
RysPicz Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I still think selling pokes that are caught based on rarity would be a new fun way to earn money. My alt where I stored ~60 porygons would be super happy from that :D Link to comment
Quakkz Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) My alt where I stored ~60 porygons would be super happy from that :D i vote for a free item that u can sell at the npc for 1mill for everytime u finished the storyline im not biased Edited January 22, 2015 by Quakkz SneaKyKhaLidA, D4NTH3M4N, Gilan and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Affan07 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 lol i have 3k ZarpyoAgain 1 Link to comment
Barrage Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 You know, you guys, breeding should not be a way to make money. In other games, refinement is usually super costly, and imo breeding Pokemon should not be a way to steadily increase IVs overall - it should be a way to patch up your "almost perfect" catch that is missing maybe 1 IV or nature. Catching should be the primary time-sink. Or, if you want to invest TONS of resources (as it is right now), you can make a perfect competitive Pokemon. That seems to be the design approach the dev team aimed for here and it's one that I agree with. Jombi, Articein, Draekyn and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Munya Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) You know, you guys, breeding should not be a way to make money. In other games, refinement is usually super costly, and imo breeding Pokemon should not be a way to steadily increase IVs overall - it should be a way to patch up your "almost perfect" catch that is missing maybe 1 IV or nature. Catching should be the primary time-sink. Or, if you want to invest TONS of resources (as it is right now), you can make a perfect competitive Pokemon. That seems to be the design approach the dev team aimed for here and it's one that I agree with. I'd argue that, trading is and should be a heavy part of this game, and breeding should benefit that. But thats not really the point, breeding is just extremely expensive. I went broke in, probably not even an hour. I may not be rich but what I had should have lasted longer than it did, it was what most people will have when they start getting into it. Edited January 22, 2015 by Munya CZD 1 Link to comment
CZD Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 You know, you guys, breeding should not be a way to make money. In other games, refinement is usually super costly, and imo breeding Pokemon should not be a way to steadily increase IVs overall - it should be a way to patch up your "almost perfect" catch that is missing maybe 1 IV or nature. Catching should be the primary time-sink. Or, if you want to invest TONS of resources (as it is right now), you can make a perfect competitive Pokemon. That seems to be the design approach the dev team aimed for here and it's one that I agree with. then, they need to find something else. we need moar yen. you can't just increase money sinks without counterbalancing. Link to comment
Bepo3 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Last update is perfect. I was always had something to complain about in previous update. This one is just perfect. I don't have any complain about it. Keep it up DEVs B) Link to comment
Barrage Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'd argue that, trading is and should be a heavy part of this game, and breeding should benefit that. But thats not really the point, breeding is just extremely expensive. I went broke in, probably not even an hour. I may not be rich but what I had should have lasted longer than it did, it was what most people will have when they start getting into it. The system has resource limitation. Everyone is used to breeding being the primary (and highly exploitable) way of obtaining competitive Pokemon. The devs had said it themselves; it is not. Catching is the primary way of obtaining Pokemon, after which we can use breeding as a refinement system. It is expensive so that it is not exploitable, or requires tremendous amounts of resources to use to create that Pokemon with multiple 31s. I think the devs have done just fine in balancing it. What people aren't realizing is that they cannot abuse this system because there is an intentional resource barrier on it. Link to comment
KingTsunami Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Got me trying to sell everstones for 100K each, the struggle is real out here.. Platoons 1 Link to comment
Munya Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) The system has resource limitation. Everyone is used to breeding being the primary (and highly exploitable) way of obtaining competitive Pokemon. The devs had said it themselves; it is not. Catching is the primary way of obtaining Pokemon, after which we can use breeding as a refinement system. It is expensive so that it is not exploitable, or requires tremendous amounts of resources to use to create that Pokemon with multiple 31s. I think the devs have done just fine in balancing it. What people aren't realizing is that they cannot abuse this system because there is an intentional resource barrier on it. The resource barrier is already there with limited pokemon in stock with a high demand(they will always be limited, and always in high demand), there shouldn't be a second extremely high barrier of money. Edited January 22, 2015 by Munya Link to comment
Barrage Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The resource barrier is already there with limited pokemon in stock with a high demand, there shouldn't be a second extremely high barrier of money. That's where we disagree. Link to comment
Excelimpulse Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 then, they need to find something else. we need moar yen. you can't just increase money sinks without counterbalancing. Agreed or were going to end up not being able to breed or use any of those features put in. The way a good economy works is by having balance in spending and bringing in the money. If nobody is spending money because they dint want to end up like 95% of the community how is that healthy. Spending 40k or 2 hours hunting stones is also beyond bs. I can see about shards because none of them explode on you. But when it can explode come on now. For us to have a balance bringing in cash from e4 like 20k a day or something will benefit. It will be small but work. Or do like Destiny does and have a weekly mknthyl challenge or daily. And daily always be complete e4 on both regions and earn 40k. But there needs to be a new outlet Link to comment
Munya Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 But when it can explode come on now. Damp pokemon prevent explosion, use a quagsire. Also, everstone hunting will become easier with the update that fixes geodudes so they hold them as well. Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm broke, you're broke, we're all broke... [Spoiler] Implement welfare please, we're poverty out here devs [/spoiler] Sialia, semjon, Anjovies and 5 others 8 Link to comment
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