RysPicz Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Good Call on Claydol. So for Hoenn we would need three HM/TM slaves though. For Kanto two hm slaves is enough. I don`t think there is much use for teleport in Kanto. Correct me if i`m wrong though! I'm not sure if it will work, but actually teleporting out of PKMN Tower after getting Soothe Bell, or from Rocket Hideout, would save a bit of time :p I will try it out very soon Link to comment
Uzi Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Cheers for the information. I'm thinking about starting out with Abra and completing an alt-run. Link to comment
Farhan Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Thanks alot Bro ;) You just make my life :D found all of them. Link to comment
RysPicz Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Guide has been slightly updated (preparations part now include a teleport poke and I've included places where it becomes useful, though it's much more useful in Hoenn- where I included that as well, kek). Arimanius 1 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Guide has been updated once more, as I found out there were few more items I haven't found earlier: Nest Ball in the Resort Gorgeous Net Ball south of the entrance to Altering Cave and Antidote in that similar location. Soon I'm gonna make this guide perfect \o/ inb4 update comes and screws whole guide Arimanius 1 Link to comment
PlayLikeNewbs Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) Hey , I really liked your guide, but as a new player I think I can provide some perspective on how to make it a little clearer. Again, I want to stress that I found this EXTREMELY helpful. MT Moon: Head down the ladder and collect Antidote along the way. Go up. Collect the last hidden mushroom here and go out of the cave.when you say "Head to the ladder, it implies there's an antidote before the ladder. In reality, the antidote comes after. SSAnne: I was confused with your descriptions, try replacing them screenshots. I made some as an example. http://i.imgur.com/k5mVogz.png http://i.imgur.com/GPbgqmz.png http://i.imgur.com/ZsLu8W3.png Route 2: When you will reach Route 2, cut the tree, grab the Paralyz Heal and Ether. if you don't specify to cut the tree, it implies the passage to viridian forest is where oak's aide is. Route 9: Make sure to specify to exchange the bike voucher. I missed it. Route 8: you mentioned there were berries, but you didn't specify where they were! Here is an example SS of what I would do. http://i.imgur.com/AV676La.png Celadon: - explain that the extra lemonade is for the memorial pillar. I drank mine on accident. Fuscia City/ Safari Zone : I'm not sure if its me or If I missed that you should get the HM strength from the warden, and the rare candy in his house. Cinnabar Island - you mentioned that we should go immediately to the gym, skipping the pokemansion. I think it would be better to put the Gym sweeping part on the Cinnabar Island section of the guide. Pokemon mansion: Go down back, down the stairs now. When you go down again, there is alot of "down" in this sentence, some meaning "down stairs" and some meaning "south". maybe you could reword this to distinguish the two. Calcium lays in the upper right corner of the area. Now go through stairs in the upper right left corner. Iron lays... ISland 3 - Muk/Comp ... as a new player I didn't know what comp meant. Island 5 - Rich ladies is slang for resort gorgeous? Also specify that we're going Northwest to resort gorgeous. Otherwise it could be confused as going east to resort gorgeous. Island 7: you're missing a trainer. the one before the girafarig. Edited August 9, 2015 by PlayLikeNewbs DeliZenan, RysPicz and Arimanius 3 Link to comment
Arimanius Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Well I just finished an alt and I was going to do the same comments since there are things people who have never done the main story couldn't understand but those improvements seem accurate Link to comment
RysPicz Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 Hey , I really liked your guide, but as a new player I think I can provide some perspective on how to make it a little clearer. Again, I want to stress that I found this EXTREMELY helpful. MT Moon: Head down the ladder and collect Antidote along the way. Go up. Collect the last hidden mushroom here and go out of the cave.when you say "Head to the ladder, it implies there's an antidote before the ladder. In reality, the antidote comes after. SSAnne: I was confused with your descriptions, try replacing them screenshots. I made some as an example. http://i.imgur.com/k5mVogz.png http://i.imgur.com/GPbgqmz.png http://i.imgur.com/ZsLu8W3.png Route 2: When you will reach Route 2, cut the tree, grab the Paralyz Heal and Ether. if you don't specify to cut the tree, it implies the passage to viridian forest is where oak's aide is. Route 9: Make sure to specify to exchange the bike voucher. I missed it. Route 8: you mentioned there were berries, but you didn't specify where they were! Here is an example SS of what I would do. http://i.imgur.com/AV676La.png Celadon: - explain that the extra lemonade is for the memorial pillar. I drank mine on accident. Fuscia City/ Safari Zone : I'm not sure if its me or If I missed that you should get the HM strength from the warden, and the rare candy in his house. Cinnabar Island - you mentioned that we should go immediately to the gym, skipping the pokemansion. I think it would be better to put the Gym sweeping part on the Cinnabar Island section of the guide. Pokemon mansion: Go down back, down the stairs now. When you go down again, there is alot of "down" in this sentence, some meaning "down stairs" and some meaning "south". maybe you could reword this to distinguish the two. Calcium lays in the upper right corner of the area. Now go through stairs in the upper right left corner. Iron lays... ISland 3 - Muk/Comp ... as a new player I didn't know what comp meant. Island 5 - Rich ladies is slang for resort gorgeous? Also specify that we're going Northwest to resort gorgeous. Otherwise it could be confused as going east to resort gorgeous. Island 7: you're missing a trainer. the one before the girafarig. Route8: I said that I am not going to post screenshots for berries, they are marked on the ground and thus easy to find. Island3- this is a joke from me, as during the old days I was owner of 11 comp Muks ;) It hardly matters. Island7- I was pretty sure he wasn't worth the effort :v Rest of shit got fixed, thanks! PlayLikeNewbs 1 Link to comment
PlayLikeNewbs Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Route8: I said that I am not going to post screenshots for berries, they are marked on the ground and thus easy to find. Island3- this is a joke from me, as during the old days I was owner of 11 comp Muks ;) It hardly matters. Island7- I was pretty sure he wasn't worth the effort :v Rest of shit got fixed, thanks! I hope i didn't come off too critical, it is clear you put alot of effort into this Link to comment
RysPicz Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 Thank you update for making alts more profitable \o/ Spoils updated. Arimanius 1 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Might be some additional spoils :3 I'm not sure if only one holds them or both, first one died to a crit and didn't see. I managed to catch second one and it was holding leftovers, meaning we can get 3 (or maybe even 4) leftovers through entire storyline, making alts even more profitable. First I'll ask tho if it's intended or a bug just to make sure I won't get banned for bug abuse E: E: Alright, it isn't a bug. Snorlaxes now have a chance of holding Lefties, all of them, so it's not guaranteed. It's nice doe Edited August 22, 2015 by RysPicz Arimanius 1 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Spoils section requires an update. Unfortunately due to very tiny amount of time I can sacrifice each day, I won't be able to make it anytime soon, unless I will find a soul brave and noble enough to calculate the spoils using the current price trends. Anyways, spoils got MUCH bigger with 90% of the stuff acquired in the game being sell-able through GTL, lots of TMs gaining value as well and many rising prices (such as pp ups for 20k and pp max for 60). That goes for both region alts. Link to comment
hihats Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Damn right. The gtl update is so awesome. I managed to sell for about 2mil of leftover alt run items and tms. Love the new update. I might post a price list, but don't count on it. Arimanius and RysPicz 2 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) Damn right. The gtl update is so awesome. I managed to sell for about 2mil of leftover alt run items and tms. Love the new update. I might post a price list, but don't count on it. Ohhh welcome back =) Haven't seen you in a while :) Update 14.02.2016 *Updated spoils section. Edited February 14, 2016 by RysPicz Link to comment
hihats Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Thanks, been gone for more than 6 months, now i'm back! Just finished a Kanto run with good old Alakazam. Took 8.88hours. Man i'm slow and rusty. Still, sold almost everything at Mart and GTL, and I am now sitting on 1.2mil, with another 200k expected to come in eventually. I did deduce the cost for my sweeper (23k poke + moves) and repels (34.5k). Averages out to about 150k/hour. So your updated prices seem pretty spot on. I do expect a price drop though since it's so profitable, more people will do alt runs and supply/demand yada yada yada. I'll need to practice a bit more to get back down to 5 hour runs. Not sure that`s even possible anymore, seems the game is slower? Or maybe I just suck that much....haha. Here is what I posted my stuff up on GTL for Kanto Altrun items (All items up to E4) Item Qty Price Total Amulet Coin 1 39500 39500 Big Mushroom 4 7250 29000 Cleanse Tag 1 100 100 Everstone 1 20000 20000 Exp. Share 1 64999 64999 Leftovers 2 37000 74000 Macho Brace 1 17000 17000 Moon Stone 4 3000 12000 PP up 5 19500 97500 Soothe Bell 1 32000 32000 Tiny Mushroom 3 3000 9000 Total 395099 Listing FEE 19754.95 Kanto Altrun items (Sevii Ilses) Item Qty Price Total Dragon Scale 1 11000 11000 Heart Scale 4 7000 28000 Kings's Rock 1 6000 6000 Metal Coat 1 33000 33000 Moon Stone 1 2500 2500 PP MAX 1 62000 62000 PP Up 3 17500 52500 Silk Scarf 1 43000 43000 Sun Stone 1 5000 5000 Up-grade 1 5000 5000 Total 248000 Listing FEE 12400 Tm's with no price next to them aren't picked up in Kanto (thunderbolt, hyperbeam ,etc...). When the price is 100, it`s because i sold to merch. Those were TM's that sold for about 1k at GTL. Couldn't be bothered to post em up. Kanto TM's (Full Run) TM Move Price TM01 Focus Punch 9999 TM02 Dragon Claw 19000 TM03 Water Pulse 9000 TM04 Calm Mind 3000 TM05 Roar 100 TM06 Toxic 19000 TM07 Hail 100 TM08 Bulk Up 100 TM09 Bullet Seed 100 Hidden Power TM11 Sunny Day 2500 TM12 Taunt 1750 Ice Beam 25000 TM14 Blizzard 15000 Hyper Beam TM16 Light Screen 5000 TM17 Protect 23000 TM18 Rain Dance 2500 TM19 Giga Drain 19950 TM20 Safeguard 100 TM21 Frustration 100 TM22 Solar Beam 11000 Iron Tail Thunderbolt TM25 Thunder 29000 TM26 Earthquake 29000 TM27 Return 14000 TM28 Dig 7000 TM29 Psychic 24000 Shadow Ball TM31 Brick Break 19000 TM32 Double Team 100 TM33 Reflect 2500 TM34 Shock Wave 9000 Flamethrower TM36 Sludge Bomb 25000 TM37 Sandstorm 100 TM38 Fire Blast 28000 TM39 Rock Tomb 100 TM40 Aerial Ace 9000 TM41 Torment 100 TM42 Façade 11000 TM43 Secret Power 8000 TM44 Rest 10000 TM45 Attract 100 TM46 Thief 14000 TM47 Steel Wing 3000 TM48 Skill Swap 3500 TM49 Snatch 100 TM50 Overheat 12000 TMs Total 423899 Listing FEE 21194.95 Arimanius and RysPicz 2 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 Yeah I also feel like this game is slower. That's because of the must of battling so many trainers... Besides I still prefer Staryus as sweepers :p I also took a peek on the prices you posted. Pretty sure a lot of stuff (tms mainly) could go for more. But yeah, your post proves I'm still not that bad with prices .-D. Almost 9 hours is pretty legit tho, I usually make mine in around 8 as well. Link to comment
hihats Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Yeah the prices are a little on the blow side. As a general rule, I would match the lowest price on gtl and deduce 500 to 1000 from it. Didn't wait for prices to go up. So I'd say these are more minimum values with quits the potential to go higher. Also some tms go for a lot more on gtl than in the mart. People just don't know/ are too lazy I don't know, but stuff like tm26, I sold for 29k cuz mart sells for 30. Alright 8 hours is good then. Might remake a staryu then;) . Link to comment
ShadowGary Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Might wanna add the money from Kanto berries now Link to comment
RysPicz Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 Might wanna add the money from Kanto berries nowThe prices are too fluid for now. I will do it in the future Link to comment
Phryme Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 The prices are too fluid for now. I will do it in the future The berries used in comp will easily be worth picking up. Even if you don't add the price, it may help to say "pick this Lum Berry up" since it sells for 5k and the demand will never be going away anytime soon. They're hell to grow. Link to comment
RysPicz Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 Hell to grow but today in the morning I took like 45 lums from 4 trees so kinda compensates the 48h grow time. Link to comment
Phryme Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) OOOH I know. I've got like 20 trees growing Lum right now. Hype. That being said, your guide is awesome. Keep up the great work man, thanks for the dedication. Edited March 30, 2016 by Phryme Link to comment
Norrizei Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Hi, Sorry if this a newbie question, but... how do you transfer pokes and items that you need to the alt run kanto account? You should transfer these to a friend and then your friend to your other character? Is that legal? I only have 2 weeks in this game so i don't know how it works, thanks Link to comment
DeliZenan Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Hi, Sorry if this a newbie question, but... how do you transfer pokes and items that you need to the alt run kanto account? You should transfer these to a friend and then your friend to your other character? Is that legal? I only have 2 weeks in this game so i don't know how it works, thanks Just go to PC 1st floor and send it by mail. and your alt must not be the same account as your main. 1k per mail is compulsory. Edited April 1, 2016 by DeliZenan Norrizei 1 Link to comment
Phryme Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Hell to grow but today in the morning I took like 45 lums from 4 trees so kinda compensates the 48h grow time. Yeah, Lums are really productive. Got 66 from like 6 trees. The dream. Link to comment
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