concernedcitizen Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) UPDATED WITH NEW MARKET PRICE INFORMATION 10/19/2022 This guide shows comparisons based on real runs to determine the actual value of Riches Charm(75%) and Riches Charm(100%), and whether they're worth using in your runs. Find more info about charms at this forum post Amulet coin is used as the standard of comparison, at this point it is currently valued at $14,000. Here are the items we will be comparing: Item Market Value Boost Amulet Coin $14,000 1.5x payout Riches Charm(75%) $39,000 1.75x payout Riches Charm(100%) $90,000 2x payout General Equation This guide was originally written a year ago and prices have since changed. I've figured this equation which can help you determine the least amount your run will need to make before you break even on your charm purchase. cost*2/rate where cost is the price of the charm and rate is the rate at which they boost rewards. Example: if amulet coin costs 14k your run needs to make 18666 to break even (14000*2/1.5=18666) if riches(+75%) costs 39k your run needs to make 44571 to break even (39000*2/1.75=44571) if riches(+100%) costs 90k your run needs to make 90000 to break even (90000*2/2=90000) On its own, breaking this threshold does not mean that bigger charms are better- as you will see from the results in proceeding sections. TEST RESULTS My tests are based on two runs, one where I've gone through the Elite 4 up until the champion, popping the boost just before facing them and then proceeding to clear all Kanto gyms, Hoenn gyms, Morimoto, and two rich trainers afterwards. The other run is identical, only without having faced the Elite 4 champion, supplementing that time instead with more trainers after Morimoto. The tables below show the result of each run after subtracting the market value of the charm. Below that is listed the percentage gained over other boosts. Run 1 Elite 4 + Gyms + Morimoto + Trainers No Boost Amulet Coin Riches Charm(75%) Riches Charm(100%) $229,892 $330,838 $363,311 $369,784 Percent Boost No Boost +43.9% +58% +60.8% Amulet Coin +9.8% +11.7% Riches (+75%) +1.7% Run 2 Gyms + Morimoto + Trainers No Boost Amulet Coin Riches Charm(75%) Riches Charm(100%) $179,684 $255,526 $275,447 $269,368 Percent Boost No Boost +42.2% +53.2% +49.9% Amulet Coin +7.7% +5.4% Riches (+75%) -2.2% Judging from the results, Amulet Coin now serves a niche for newer/casual players who may not be confident in their ability to quickly clear content or who might get distracted mid-run to catch a swarm or alpha. Or, those who can't afford a riches charm to begin with. Otherwise, Amulet Coin is no longer as viable for hardcore runners due to the low price of Riches Charm(75%) However, Riches Charm(100%) has moved from being completely unusable to a mere 1.7% better, but only on a perfectly executed run. Riches Charm(100%) shouldn't be used on anything but your biggest runs, and even then it adds a negligible amount of value. CONCLUSION Amulet Coin is most viable for newer/inexperienced/casual runners, otherwise it is nicely outclassed by Riches Charm(75%) Still, Riches Charm(+100%) remains virtually unusable at a puny 1.7% increase on the bigger E4 run and a net loss when compared to Riches Charm(75%) on smaller runs. Edited October 19, 2022 by concernedcitizen Updated Market Info Johnwaynee 1 Link to comment
Neuzzz Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) I don't really get it tbh. Either the math is wrong or that you put the numbers at wrong places. Run 1: No boost is 229,892 If you use amulet, you would get 229,892*1.5-20,000= 324,838 If you use rich charm (+75%), you would get 229,892*1.75-70,000 = 332,311 Run 2: No boost is 179,864 If you use amulet, you would get 179,864*1.5-20,000= 249,796 If you use rich charm (+75%), you would get 229,892*1.75-70,000 = 244,762 I wont do the rich charm +100% bc it's indeed expensive, As you can see from the 2 runs I did calc on, In Run 1: rich charm +75% still get you a bit more money than amulet, at 70k a charm. Only at around 78k will you gain equal amount of profit whether one uses amulet or charm. In Run 2: rich charm +75% gets you around 5k less, at 70k a charm. Then to give a piece of mind, since they more or less give you around, amulet coin is a safer option in situations. However during grand events, such as Chinese New Year Event, Rich charm +75% and 100% will fall tremendously in price, being 30k+ for a 75%. So it's a good factor to consider what to use for the run. Edited December 21, 2021 by Neuzzz Johnwaynee 1 Link to comment
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