Imagine how lucky you have to be to find a shiny, you'd have to be 10 times that lucky to find one because of a shiny charm (10%)
I'm not accusing PokeMMO of intentionally misleading people, rather, being overly optimistic that the average player will bother to seek out the information, let alone understand it. "10%" sounds a whole lot better than "1 in 300,000" while in this case, they are the same thing. People have a natural bias towards what they want or wish to happen, which further skews the misconception that shiny charm is going to make any difference when it most likely will not.
Statistically, if you have a 10% buff running at all times you can safely attribute your 11th shiny to that charm. Think about that, 11 shinies before the charm actually pays out! Let's assume you're incredibly lucky and find one shiny every 8 hours by hunting hordes of 5, it will take 88 charms to satisfy the statistics. The charms themselves are worth 400k, not because of their effectiveness, only because of their rarity. The price is another factor which falsely manipulates someone's bias into believing it's going to make a more than realistic difference.
It's a gimmick, it's for fun, it's not a serious way to increase your shiny rate. Unless you intend on using hundreds of them, at which point I would argue that you have enough time and patience it'd be better to save that money anyways. What's another day or two of hunting compared to the tens of millions you would throw away on charms? I'd estimate you're most likely wasting money on at least a 10:1 ratio by using these charms.
Perhaps it would seem less misleading if the information were included on the charm itself in game, since a lot of people can't or won't tab out and look it up in a browser (mobile users):
Link (+5%): 1/28500 or .0033165% (+1/600000 or +.000165%)
Charm (+10%) : 1/27000 or .00363% (+1/300000 or +.00033%)
Donator + Link (+15%): ~1/25650 or .003795% (+1/200000 or + .000495%)
Donator + Charm (+20%): ~1/24300 or .00396% (+1/150000 or +.00066%)
Due to the uniqueness of shiny hunting as an endgame activity and the unintentional effects these charms have due to a person's natural bias, the game would benefit from making these numbers more clear and readily available to users who might otherwise feel mislead and thus discouraged from further interaction with the game.
TL;DR
Put the actual rate increases on the shiny charm instead of "10%" as it's extremely misleading
Shiny Charm (+.00033%)
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Time only consumed while online
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A charm which grants an additional 1/300000 chance to encounter a shiny Pokémon.
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concernedcitizen
Imagine how lucky you have to be to find a shiny, you'd have to be 10 times that lucky to find one because of a shiny charm (10%)
I'm not accusing PokeMMO of intentionally misleading people, rather, being overly optimistic that the average player will bother to seek out the information, let alone understand it. "10%" sounds a whole lot better than "1 in 300,000" while in this case, they are the same thing. People have a natural bias towards what they want or wish to happen, which further skews the misconception that shiny charm is going to make any difference when it most likely will not.
Statistically, if you have a 10% buff running at all times you can safely attribute your 11th shiny to that charm. Think about that, 11 shinies before the charm actually pays out! Let's assume you're incredibly lucky and find one shiny every 8 hours by hunting hordes of 5, it will take 88 charms to satisfy the statistics. The charms themselves are worth 400k, not because of their effectiveness, only because of their rarity. The price is another factor which falsely manipulates someone's bias into believing it's going to make a more than realistic difference.
It's a gimmick, it's for fun, it's not a serious way to increase your shiny rate. Unless you intend on using hundreds of them, at which point I would argue that you have enough time and patience it'd be better to save that money anyways. What's another day or two of hunting compared to the tens of millions you would throw away on charms? I'd estimate you're most likely wasting money on at least a 10:1 ratio by using these charms.
Perhaps it would seem less misleading if the information were included on the charm itself in game, since a lot of people can't or won't tab out and look it up in a browser (mobile users):
Credit to Seth's shiny hunting post
Standard PokeMMO Shiny Rate: 1/30000 or .0033%
Link (+5%): 1/28500 or .0033165% (+1/600000 or +.000165%)
Charm (+10%) : 1/27000 or .00363% (+1/300000 or +.00033%)
Donator + Link (+15%): ~1/25650 or .003795% (+1/200000 or + .000495%)
Donator + Charm (+20%): ~1/24300 or .00396% (+1/150000 or +.00066%)
Due to the uniqueness of shiny hunting as an endgame activity and the unintentional effects these charms have due to a person's natural bias, the game would benefit from making these numbers more clear and readily available to users who might otherwise feel mislead and thus discouraged from further interaction with the game.
TL;DR
Put the actual rate increases on the shiny charm instead of "10%" as it's extremely misleading
Shiny Charm (+.00033%)
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Time only consumed while online
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A charm which grants an additional 1/300000 chance to encounter a shiny Pokémon.
Stacks with donator status.
Consumed upon use.
Effects last 1 hour.
Link members receive a .000165% bonus.
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