LeJovi Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 don't draft IceKob he's bad wickedsoul, LifeStyleNORE, TMM and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment
xxxHan Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 IGN:xxxHan Time Zone:GMT+8 Tiers:OU,UU,NU Fluff:Don't let yourself down⭐ Ronronner, Edwardinho, Shadow and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment
Ronronner Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) IGN:woxiangsinile Time Zone:GMT+8 Tiers:NU>UU Fluff:There are champions in uu and nu fields, and prudence is my pronoun. Edited November 23, 2021 by Ronronner RysPicz, MendeeZ, Latiosrol and 7 others 10 Link to comment
Kamowanthere Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 IGN: Kamowanthere Time Zone: GMT+3 Tiers: Bench, Dubs MathewMat, Sashaolin, Wallarro and 11 others 13 1 Link to comment
iJulian Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 12:32 PM, Cristi said: What if you charge 25k to those who have more than 30 likes or have written more than 50 words in their sign up too? Since you are so worried about money. Maybe Paul would have donated another 30m if you hadn't "banned him" for your assumptions. Its not about money, its a fee so third person / ingame signup doesnt become the norm. Luke and gbwead 2 Link to comment
Havsha Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, iJulian said: Its not about money, its a fee so third person / ingame signup doesnt become the norm. I dont love this, people dont need to be forum members to be a part of the community, but these fees are kinda gatekeeping it so you need to be, should be able to send confirmation over discord or just a regular mail, we dont need to add more obstacles. Bertolfoso, Shadow, JeanMarc and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Luke Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Havsha said: I dont love this, people dont need to be forum members to be a part of the community, but these fees are kinda gatekeeping it so you need to be, should be able to send confirmation over discord or just a regular mail, we dont need to add more obstacles. This means the signups will be all over the place; and it's more work for the host. It takes 2 minutes to make a forum account. It's not like the forums is some sort of paid service lol Suneet and CaptnBaklava 2 Link to comment
Havsha Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 39 minutes ago, Lvkee said: This means the signups will be all over the place; and it's more work for the host. It takes 2 minutes to make a forum account. It's not like the forums is some sort of paid service lol Sign ups will be on the forums, because people just get their friends to sign up on their behalf just like theyve always done. If people dont want to make a forum account thats there choice. Theres no difference between confirming their signups if they included 25k in the mail or not, its just pointless and will only put people off taking part in the community events. Cristi and Kanzo 2 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I'm likely not going to entertain buying anyone who's too lazy to sign up on the forums tbh. That alone has told me enough. Moi, AwaXGoku, Suneet and 3 others 6 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) @Havsha Let me explain the problem in front of us, so we are all the same page. There is a very high correlation between lack of commitment and not signing up yourselves. Here are some examples that I could think of: Axoa was signed up by someone else in PSL 4 and refused to play any match. Manjume was signed up by someone else in PSL 9 and refused to play any match. JuniorPT was signed up by someone else in PSL 13 and got banned. There are also joked signed ups that I need to look through like: imythic who was signed up by someone superman who was signed up by MDM It takes time to filter through all the players getting registered. I don't want alts, fake sign ups, players that lack commitment, etc ending up on the final player list. The 25k fee is only a small measure to discourage players that lack commitment from signing up. It's not ideal, but at least it will help prevent managers from drafting players that will disregard them completly. edit: Also, if a player that wants to sign up through someone else does not want to pay the 25k, at the very least find a way to object to the 25k fee like Cristi did. If the player that doesn't sign up himself can't even figure out a way to communicate his refusal to pay 25k, that player should definetly not get added to the sign up list imo. Edited November 23, 2021 by gbwead Quinn010, wickedsoul, JorgeFirebolt and 5 others 8 Link to comment
Quinn010 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, gbwead said: Manjume was signed up by someone else in PSL 9 and refused to play any match. cap the ? did play MendeeZ, wickedsoul, Bilburt and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kanzo said: What if its a legit sign up and paid the 25k fee? Nope. A couple reasons. The obvious one is just lazyness. It doesn't take long to make an account so with that in mind, I'm not seeing a whole lot of motivation here. Secondly, a forums account is needed throughout the season. If he/she needs to disclose a time on the thread, a battle or a win/loss, then he/she will need one anyway. If they are not going to do it themselves, then it falls onto me as an extra responbility, and I'm good thanks. Edited November 23, 2021 by KaynineXL LeJovi and JeanMarc 2 Link to comment
Havsha Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, gbwead said: @Havsha Let me explain the problem in front of us, so we are all the same page. There is a very high correlation between lack of commitment and not signing up yourselves. Here are some examples that I could think of: Axoa was signed up by someone else in PSL 4 and refused to play any match. Manjume was signed up by someone else in PSL 9 and refused to play any match. JuniorPT was signed up by someone else in PSL 13 and got banned. There are also joked signed ups that I need to look through like: imythic who was signed up by someone superman who was signed up by MDM It takes time to filter through all the players getting registered. I don't want alts, fake sign ups, players that lack commitment, etc ending up on the final player list. The 25k fee is only a small measure to discourage players that lack commitment from signing up. It's not ideal, but at least it will help prevent managers from drafting players that will disregard them completly. edit: Also, if a player that wants to sign up through someone else does not want to pay the 25k, at the very least find a way to object to the 25k fee like Cristi did. If the player that doesn't sign up himself can't even figure out a way to communicate his refusal to pay 25k, that player should definetly not get added to the sign up list imo. So in 13 seasons theres been just 3 cases of people signing up for someone else who refuses to play. That's really not bad at all considering the amount of sign ups we get per season. I dont think we ought to be disuading people from signing up (even if they dont have a forum account, and for one reason or another wont make one) The issue of players refusing to play isnt event exclusive to other people signing up for them, theres so many times people sign up stating "I wont play for x manager" and stuff. The issue of "joke registrations" isnt fixed with a 25k confirmation fee, people sign up for themselves with no intentions of playing saying things like "dont buy me I'm too busy" or whatever. There's likely more joke sign ups from people signing themselves up than there are people signing up for other people. Link to comment
Havsha Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, KaynineXL said: Nope. A couple reasons. The obvious one is just lazyness. It doesn't take long to make an account so with that in mind, I'm not seeing a whole lot of motivation here. Secondly, a forums account is needed throughout the season. If he/she needs to disclose a time on the thread, a battle or a win/loss, then he/she will need one anyway. If they are not going to do it themselves, then it falls onto me as an extra responbility, and I'm good thanks. A couple of seasons ago id agree, but for last few psls and wcs we've almost exclusively used discord for sharing screenshots of victories and arranging our battles that I dont think this is an issue anymore Kanzo 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Havsha said: So in 13 seasons theres been just 3 cases of people signing up for someone else who refuses to play. That's really not bad at all considering the amount of sign ups we get per season. I dont think we ought to be disuading people from signing up (even if they dont have a forum account, and for one reason or another wont make one) The issue of players refusing to play isnt event exclusive to other people signing up for them, theres so many times people sign up stating "I wont play for x manager" and stuff. The issue of "joke registrations" isnt fixed with a 25k confirmation fee, people sign up for themselves with no intentions of playing saying things like "dont buy me I'm too busy" or whatever. There's likely more joke sign ups from people signing themselves up than there are people signing up for other people. I did not go through all the seasons, I just said the ones that were on top of my head. I know there are more, but I'm not going to look through 130 pages of player sign ups from the past 13 seasons just to get a list of players that lack commitment. Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Havsha said: A couple of seasons ago id agree, but for last few psls and wcs we've almost exclusively used discord for sharing screenshots of victories and arranging our battles that I dont think this is an issue anymore The host gets the pics from discord to update the thread? If that's how he's going to go about it sure. Link to comment
Havsha Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, gbwead said: I did not go through all the seasons, I just said the ones that were on top of my head. I know there are more, but I'm not going to look through 130 pages of player sign ups from the past 13 seasons just to get a list of players that lack commitment. Honestly valid, no one can expect you to do that. Like dont get me wrong the amount of effort you've been putting in as host is really admirable, I dont want you to think Im ragging on ya, I just don't agree with the confirmation fee, since it just feels too much like a half-heated sign up fee for some people and not for others 1 minute ago, KaynineXL said: The host gets the pics from discord to update the thread? If that's how he's going to go about it sure. Yeah exactly! Its just like posting on the forums but in a specified discord channel for the victory screens in the discord! KaynineXL 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Havsha said: Honestly valid, no one can expect you to do that. Like dont get me wrong the amount of effort you've been putting in as host is really admirable, I dont want you to think Im ragging on ya, I just don't agree with the confirmation fee, since it just feels too much like a half-heated sign up fee for some people and not for others That's fair, but it would mean more from the players affected by the fee. It would show that they are serious. Link to comment
TohnR Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Much talking but not much signing up wickedsoul and pachima 2 Link to comment
Kepzal Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 IGN: Kepzal Timezone: GMT-4 Tiers: Dubs, UU, NU, LC Fluff: aumentar mi ki MaatthewMLG, AurumPegasus, Luke and 16 others 18 1 Link to comment
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atlewis Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 IGN: Atlewis Time Zone: GMT Tiers: Doubles Fluff: Started playing PokeMMO during Season 5, got top 100 doubles out of the 101 people playing, 100% TT record (after 1 game) so I'm the obvious choice. MathewMat, Imperial, TohnR and 2 others 5 Link to comment
RedHair Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 IGN:Mislandier Time Zone:GMT+8 Tiers:DB > NU & OU >UU Fluff:First time to play PSL;Great interests in building original teams;Have created several classic DB teams including stall team;Lucky to win the World Cup 4, several tournaments and etc; I would like to make friends with any kind and lovely pokemon trainers. CaptnBaklava, xSerpereorx, JorgeFirebolt and 12 others 15 Link to comment
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