KaynineXL Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, DoubleJ said: 1. Implements rigged system to try and reban players that already served their sentence 2. Pisses off people trying to ban scum players by telling them he's going to unban them regardless 3. Asks players to hand him 30m even though he says their bids won't matter 4. Refuses to allow arguably the best manager ever (2x champion what?!) a chance to manage again 5. Negates anyone who isn't active a chance to manage, despite their history and accomplishments 6. Tries to claim he's not biased but clearly is 7. Has probably the worst prize pool to date when you consider inflation 8. Tries to elect a small council to reduce bias, but only after he makes all the decisions already 9. Flamed past hosts for too much drama then creates some of the most drama PSL has ever seen before the season even starts 10. Cheated in an official and got kicked from TC What am I missing? He hasn't added dpp yet DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
pachima Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 4 hours ago, gbwead said: It's easy to be a good manager/player when all is going well. When everything is not going well, that's when you see who is a good manager/player and who is a quitter. I don't care if Pachima won before, I'm not going to give a former quitter no penalty. You can either share that penalty with him since you are a big part of why he quit or he can take on the penalty by himself. Or you could stop talking about stuff you are ignorant about. You are free to judge me as a manager/player in whatever way it helps you sleep at night because I don't care. But the moment you choose to do so, at least make sure you know the whole story behind every event. I won't dwell much into Cali's PSL because I'd have to involve people other than me and I am not interested in dragging any more names into that mess. Claiming being a good manager is easy when all is going well literally proves how little research you did, how much you don't know or how much you choose not to know because my PSL 11 was everything but "well" and 10 seconds into forum's search would explain you why. Regarding my application: I don't want any special treatment neither do I want others to "sacrifice" for myself. It is your system and, as much as I dislike it and as much as other seasons have shown it to be flawed, I have to minimally respect it as long as it doesn't go too far. On that same note I will be withdrawing from this PSL as a manager to avoid any funny business you may want to attempt against me in the future. Suneet, iJulian and DoubleJ 3 Link to comment
LeJovi Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 IGN: LeJovi Motivation: to know my score PSL as a player: 5, 6, 7, 8 PSL as a manager: 9, 13 Mlhawk, MendeeZ, KaynineXL and 17 others 20 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 8 hours ago, KaynineXL said: sign up for some tournaments they said up your score they said >proceeds to get 1st rounded thanks for the vote of confidence though! made me laugh irl ngl KaynineXL and TohnR 2 Link to comment
isi1993 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) I don't think my opinion matters much, but to give my point of view I will. It is not a bad system to assume that those who won the most will be better managers, but it has already been seen that a top player is not a top manager. If this system had always existed, I would never have become a manager and in my defense I will say that I do not think I did it wrong, I finished in the top 4 in my first year as a manager, being second in the regular season and second in my second year, finishing first in the regular season. And my return to try to be a manager again is due to the different players who asked me to be, since I was one of the few who opted for the new ones (9 rookies in psl XIII). That said, pachima shows to be an effective manager by winning his 2 PSL, although his seasons as a player or his achievements are not as good as other players, with this system you are depriving him of something he deserves, by this I do not mean that he or I have to be a manager, on the contrary I respect their system but it is not 100% fair. Edited November 15, 2021 by isi1993 jorgemaximo, DoubleJ, SnowOT and 7 others 10 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I'm super curious about my score but I know it would be a fucking huge pain in the ass to research through all PSL seasons, still if you'd be willing to do it just for the sake of it, I'd appreciate it GB Link to comment
LeJovi Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, RysPicz said: I'm super curious about my score but I know it would be a fucking huge pain in the ass to research through all PSL seasons, still if you'd be willing to do it just for the sake of it, I'd appreciate it GB I mean it literally took me 10 minutes. Link to comment
LeZenor Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 you know JJ is mad when he's at his 4th meme using sleepy joe as template to describe gb TohnR, Poufilou, Kanzo and 4 others 7 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, LeJovi said: I mean it literally took me 10 minutes. I suck at maths harder than daryl sucks at english Aerun and CaptnBaklava 2 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, LeJovi said: I mean it literally took me 10 minutes. Is that why u asked for my help ? Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, pachima said: Or you could stop talking about stuff you are ignorant about. You are free to judge me as a manager/player in whatever way it helps you sleep at night because I don't care. But the moment you choose to do so, at least make sure you know the whole story behind every event. I won't dwell much into Cali's PSL because I'd have to involve people other than me and I am not interested in dragging any more names into that mess. Claiming being a good manager is easy when all is going well literally proves how little research you did, how much you don't know or how much you choose not to know because my PSL 11 was everything but "well" and 10 seconds into forum's search would explain you why. Regarding my application: I don't want any special treatment neither do I want others to "sacrifice" for myself. It is your system and, as much as I dislike it and as much as other seasons have shown it to be flawed, I have to minimally respect it as long as it doesn't go too far. On that same note I will be withdrawing from this PSL as a manager to avoid any funny business you may want to attempt against me in the future. I know exactly about what I am talking about. In PSL 10, your team was ranked 1st the entire season. In PSL 11, your team didn't do as good, but you guys certainly never were 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th. With Cali, your team was at the very bottom for several weeks and all you could do was blame each other all the time to the point you and her were begging me to let you get released. That's very shitty and I'm going to take it into account. Edited November 15, 2021 by gbwead Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 6 hours ago, DoubleJ said: 1. Implements rigged system to try and reban players that already served their sentence 2. Pisses off people trying to ban scum players by telling them he's going to unban them regardless 3. Asks players to hand him 30m even though he says their bids won't matter 4. Refuses to allow arguably the best manager ever (2x champion what?!) a chance to manage again 5. Negates anyone who isn't active a chance to manage, despite their history and accomplishments 6. Tries to claim he's not biased but clearly is 7. Has probably the worst prize pool to date when you consider inflation 8. Tries to elect a small council to reduce bias, but only after he makes all the decisions already 9. Flamed past hosts for too much drama then creates some of the most drama PSL has ever seen before the season even starts 10. Cheated in an official and got kicked from TC What am I missing? A reality check I suppose. Link to comment
TohnR Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/13/2021 at 7:39 PM, gbwead said: In what universe can you justify not giving a manager spot to Enchanteur and MadaraSixSix? Agreed on that bro Link to comment
LeJovi Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/13/2021 at 6:39 PM, gbwead said: In what universe can you justify not giving a manager spot to Enchanteur and MadaraSixSix? in an universe where you can only speak proper english to communicate with others *laughs in spanish* MendeeZ, NOREButler, Quinn010 and 3 others 6 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, LeJovi said: IGN: LeJovi Motivation: to know my score PSL as a player: 5, 6, 7, 8 PSL as a manager: 9, 13 2020 --> (1 wins + 0 second place) x 0.9= 0.9 2017 --> (1 wins + 1 second place) x 0.6= 0.9 2016 --> (5 wins + 1 second place) x 0.5= 2.75 PSL 5 --> (2 wins - 5 loses)/15 = -0.2 PSL 6 --> (6 wins - 2 loses)/14 = 0.286 PSL 7 --> (4 wins - 4 loses)/13 = 0 PSL 8 --> (5 wins - 3 lose)/12 = 0.167 Banned/Released: No (x1)Won a season as manager: No (x1) Regular season performance: 6th in PSL 9 (x0.75) Regular seson performance: 4th in PSL 13 (x1) (0.9+0.9+2.75-0.2+0.286+0.167)x1x1x0.75x1 = 3.60 = D tier Candidate Quinn010, JorgeFirebolt, LeJovi and 1 other 4 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, isi1993 said: If this system had always existed, I would never have become a manager and in my defense I will say that I do not think I did it wrong, I finished in the top 4 in my first year as a manager, being second in the regular season and second in my second year, finishing first in the regular season. And my return to try to be a manager again is due to the different players who asked me to be, since I was one of the few who opted for the new ones (9 rookies in psl XIII). Back in 2019, the time at which you got most of your HoF entries (so without any deflation to your score), I think your score would be significantly higher than what it is now. Out of all the candidates (DoubleJ, RealDevilLegend, MaatthewMLG, Frags, Nahwel, Cali, Linken, Lazaaro, Luke, JulianFNT, Mlhawk, Kloneman, Hopy, Leviatharian, Lifestyle and Kimikozen) that applied with you in PSL 12, I believe only Frags, Lazaaro, MaathewMLG, Mlhawk and Lifestyle could potentially have a score higher than yours. Imo, if the system was put in place back then, you would have definetly been picked. Link to comment
Quinn010 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, gbwead said: For instance, in the D tier, we have Daryl with 0.86 pts, Pachima with 0 pts, Endii with 2.64 pts and Quinn with 1.45 pts. Let's say Quinn and Daryl decide to challenge each other for 0.86 pts (the maximum available) and Quinn wins the Bo3; Quinn would then have 2.31 pts and Daryl would have 0 pts. Quinn would then be able to challenge Endii for 2.31 pts; if Quinn wins the Bo3 vs Endii, Endii would then have 0.33 pts and Quinn would then have 4.62 pts. This would allow Quinn to go from D tier to C tier. Edit: I fear this could be easily exploited, so it probably needs more thoughts. just pick 1 player from the c and d tier Edited November 15, 2021 by Quinn010 i dont want to be manager xd Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, RysPicz said: I'm super curious about my score but I know it would be a fucking huge pain in the ass to research through all PSL seasons, still if you'd be willing to do it just for the sake of it, I'd appreciate it GB That would kill me. RysPicz 1 Link to comment
LeJovi Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, gbwead said: D tier Candidate lmaoooooooo Edited November 15, 2021 by LeJovi JorgeFirebolt, xSparkie, MendeeZ and 7 others 10 Link to comment
Spaintakula Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 IGN: SpaintakulaMotivation: Winning psl as a manager really, that, and wanna see gb calc my tier. And also sick of getting either managers who quit halfway through the season(greck), or are just plain daryl tier(daryl).PSL seasons in which you participated as a player: Uhh, 2 many 2 count. Psl 2, 3, 4, 6 or 7, 8 or 9, psl teamsPSL seasons in which you participated as a manager: 0 Sashaolin, JorgeFirebolt, Tear and 4 others 7 Link to comment
MaatthewMLG Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) IGN: iMat/MaatthewMLGMotivation: for my ego and PSL seasons in which you participated as a player: PSL IX - Tenacious Tentacruels (overToasted) PSL X - Transformers, Assemble! (pachima) PSL XIII - The Trashtalking Taillows (YettoDie) PSL seasons in which you participated as a manager: PSL XI - Spared No Expense PSL XII - No Shaymin Losing i'm a sig maker main UwU Edited November 15, 2021 by MaatthewMLG to exert my dominance ofc #flexxxxxxxxx AwaXGoku, Quinn010, Gabriel20 and 15 others 18 Link to comment
Kamimiii Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 IGN: Kamimiii Motivation: Know my WR on previous seasons, trashtalk PSL seasons in which you participated as a player: 8,9,10,11,12 I think (7 maybe ?) PSL seasons in which you participated as a manager: NOPE DoubleJ, AurumPegasus, JorgeFirebolt and 4 others 7 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Spaintakula said: IGN: SpaintakulaMotivation: Winning psl as a manager really, that, and wanna see gb calc my tier. And also sick of getting either managers who quit halfway through the season(greck), or are just plain daryl tier(daryl).PSL seasons in which you participated as a player: Uhh, 2 many 2 count. Psl 2, 3, 4, 6 or 7, 8 or 9, psl teamsPSL seasons in which you participated as a manager: 0 Could not find any HoF entries for "Spaintakula". PSL 2 --> out of the remaining 4 threads I could find of PSL 2, I did not find you in the lineups PSL 3 --> (0 wins - 4 loses)/17 = -0.235 PSL 4 --> (7 wins - 0 loses)/16 = 0.438 PSL 6 --> (2 wins - 5 loses)/14 = -0.2 PSL 7 --> (0 wins - 4 loses)/13 = -0.286 PSL 8 --> I did not find you in the lineups. PSL 9 --> (2 wins - 6 loses)/11 = -0.364 Banned/Released: No (x1) (-0.235+0.438-0.2-0.286-0.364)x1 = -0.647 = Rejected Kanzo, razimove, Axelgor and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 7 hours ago, MaatthewMLG said: IGN: iMat/MaatthewMLGMotivation: for my ego and PSL seasons in which you participated as a player: PSL IX - Tenacious Tentacruels (overToasted) PSL X - Transformers, Assemble! (pachima) PSL XIII - The Trashtalking Taillows (YettoDie) PSL seasons in which you participated as a manager: PSL XI - Spared No Expense PSL XII - No Shaymin Losing 2021 --> (2 wins + 2 second place) x1= 3 2020 --> (3 wins + 3 second place) x0.9= 4.05 2019 --> (3 wins + 1 second place) x0.8= 2.8 2018 --> (2 wins + 3 second place) x0.7= 2.45 PSL 9 --> (5 wins - 4 loses)/11 = 0.091 PSL 10 --> (3 wins - 1 lose)/10 = 0.2 PSL 12 --> (0 wins - 5 loses)/9 = -0.556 PSL 13 --> (2 wins - 1 lose)/8 = 0.125 Banned/Released: No (x1)Won a season as manager: No (x1) Regular season performance: 5th in PSL 11 (x0.75) Regular seson performance: 6th in PSL 12 (x0.75) (3+4.05+2.8+2.45+0.091+0.2-0.556+0.125)x1x1x0.75x0.75 = 5.46 = C tier Candidate MendeeZ, DoubleJ and JorgeFirebolt 3 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Kamimiii said: IGN: Kamimiii Motivation: Know my WR on previous seasons, trashtalk PSL seasons in which you participated as a player: 8,9,10,11,12 I think (7 maybe ?) PSL seasons in which you participated as a manager: NOPE PSL 7 --> (2 wins - 1 lose)/13 = 0.077 PSL 8 --> (2 wins - 0 loses)/12 = 0.167 PSL 9 --> (5 wins - 3 loses)/11 = 0.182 PSL 10 --> (4 wins - 4 loses)/10 = 0 PSL 11 --> (1 win - 3 loses)/9 = -0.222 PSL 12 --> (4 wins - 4 loses)/8 = 0 Banned/Released: No (x1) (0.077+0.167+0.182+0-0.222+0)x1 = 0.204 = D tier Candidate Kamimiii and Gunthug 1 1 Link to comment
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