passionfruit69 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) it's just absolutely ridiculous and absurd how a standard pokéball will fail more times than it will succeed at catching a 1hp asleep <20 level pokémon now, this is a rant about how the devs really do an awful job at informing the players about basic stuff in this game, the ingame FAQ is useful for the first 5 minutes of playing for the first time ever, yes sure it's a pokemon game after all no? everyone has played and knows the basics + bulbapedia can get you a long way except not really, remember that most of this game's inner workings are heavily modified and there's little to no accessible information, I get it, it's a MMO, sure, but that's no excuse for it to become just a tedious braindead grind with inflated artificial difficulty and unexplained mechanics (like how you have to steal fossils and other items from wild geodudes/gravellers that spawn when you use rock smash, otherwise there's no way to find fossils since the underground will never be implemented and it's literally explained or mentioned nowhere unless you look for it) this is pokémon, not Warframe. I haven't yet found a thread or page listing the current pokeball catch rates and condition multipliers, all I do find are spam posts unrelated to the thing I'm actually searching for, there's no information about it, I don't know if this game is using Gen 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 catch rate system. Reading the official bulbapedia article about catch rates and other game mechanisms is pretty much useless as everything is modified, the closest thing I have found to a proper pokeMMO wiki is this, and it's still lacking heavily http://www.en.pokemmo.shoutwiki.com/wiki/PokeMMO_Wiki:Main_page for how long this project has been alive i'm really disappointed at the lack of basic information Edited September 6, 2021 by passionfruit69 Link to comment
Mint2B Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) That numbers are not public, but I got something from experience ----- For catch rate 255, pokeball is good enough For catch rate ~235, pokeball may fail depend on Hp left maybe For catch rate 190, greatball or pokeball+any status condition For catch rate 100, greatball+sleep Edited September 6, 2021 by Mint2B Link to comment
passionfruit69 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 31 minutes ago, DomenicoVnzla said: Maybe as you say the capture rates are absurd, but this is an MMO game (Massively Multiplayer Online) Every day more users enter PokeMMO, therefore the Capture Rates must be high, if not the trade of breeds in the game it would be absurd, greetings. as I already pointed out, I am aware that this is a MMO, but there's literally 0 reason for the developers to keep numbers and information in secret and away from the players, is just stupid and caters to the ideas and theories that I have heard previously like how "odds are better for particular people" and etc, things just don't add up Link to comment
Desu Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 There has been no modifications from vanilla with the exclusion of certain special balls having their rates tweaked. These tweaks to ball rates are publicly documented in the item descriptions. The formula is gen 3/4, and monster capture rates should be unmodified gen 5. DomenicoVnzla, Pecaeme, Mint2B and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Minks Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 these people should be way more embarrassed about threads like this FighterChamp, TheBloo, razimove and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Crueldad Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 37 minutes ago, Minks said: these people should be way more embarrassed about threads like this Obviously it is basic information that the players need, so we could improve many aspects of the farm mode with the poke balls, I do not think they will do a '' terrible job '' if pokemmo is still here, and we are discussing about this, it is because their work going fine, they just missed something like this, that's all. Obviously in the future it is necessary for them to add it, or depending on the citation not, but saying things like that will not give an answer to the problem. passionfruit69 1 Link to comment
passionfruit69 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 58 minutes ago, Minks said: these people should be way more embarrassed about threads like this i really don't care about what olduguu like you have to say, new people join every day and basic information is required for new players to stick around, not everyone is unemployed or unschooled and can sit their asses and play all day for days, deal with it 16 minutes ago, Crueldad said: Obviously it is basic information that the players need, so we could improve many aspects of the farm mode with the poke balls, I do not think they will do a '' terrible job '' if pokemmo is still here, and we are discussing about this, it is because their work going fine, they just missed something like this, that's all. Obviously in the future it is necessary for them to add it, or depending on the citation not, but saying things like that will not give an answer to the problem. I wrote the rant while heated, as I was really frustrated with how inconsistent and nonsensical catch rates feel; that + finding nothing about the catch rates on the internet or forum got me mad, I agree that the devs aren't doing a terrible job, they are doing pretty well, but in +10 years that this project has been around I'm still disappointed that they didn't grab a bunch of contributors and wrote a proper wiki going over everything added, old, new, etc. instead leaving users to come up with guides for other uses themselves via trial & error and experimentation, i hope the dev team didn't feel offended or attacked and I hope there are improvements regarding this topic Link to comment
Desu Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 53 minutes ago, Crueldad said: Obviously it is basic information that the players need, so we could improve many aspects of the farm mode with the poke balls, I do not think they will do a '' terrible job '' if pokemmo is still here, and we are discussing about this, it is because their work going fine, they just missed something like this, that's all. Obviously in the future it is necessary for them to add it, or depending on the citation not, but saying things like that will not give an answer to the problem. There's nothing to add or document, it's the standard gen3/4 catch rate, which is almost identical to gen5's as well. The few changes we made to ball rates are already documented. kuplion and Crueldad 2 Link to comment
passionfruit69 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, Desu said: There's nothing to add or document, it's the standard gen3/4 catch rate, which is almost identical to gen5's as well. The few changes we made to ball rates are already documented. 3 hours ago, Mint2B said: That numbers are not public, but I got something from experience 4 hours ago, passionfruit69 said: I haven't yet found a thread or page listing the current pokeball catch rates Link to comment
hannahtaylor Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 With just a very quick look: Updated ball formulas for: Dive Ball: Underwater ball bonus is now 2.5x Net Ball: Bug/Water ball bonus is now 2.5x Timer Ball ball bonus is now (1/1.66/2.33/3) for turns (<6, <9, <13, 13+) Quick Ball ball bonus is now 2.25x There might be more, but I'm not going looking for them passionfruit69, Crueldad, dorybo and 2 others 5 Link to comment
MrMalz Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, passionfruit69 said: i really don't care about what olduguu like you have to say, new people join every day and basic information is required for new players to stick around, not everyone is unemployed or unschooled and can sit their asses and play all day for days, deal with it I wrote the rant while heated, as I was really frustrated with how inconsistent and nonsensical catch rates feel; that + finding nothing about the catch rates on the internet or forum got me mad, I agree that the devs aren't doing a terrible job, they are doing pretty well, but in +10 years that this project has been around I'm still disappointed that they didn't grab a bunch of contributors and wrote a proper wiki going over everything added, old, new, etc. instead leaving users to come up with guides for other uses themselves via trial & error and experimentation, i hope the dev team didn't feel offended or attacked and I hope there are improvements regarding this topic Hi new dude ? Saw you were frustrated. Follow my link and ask me if you still have any generic questions ? Edited September 7, 2021 by MrMalz passionfruit69, Bertolfoso and kuplion 3 Link to comment
BlueNose Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 i studied the capture rate in pokemmo for some while and make a website to calc it automatically,most ducoments of balls explain their capture mods and cases,but there still were two balls i didnt know all about their capture mods which were timer ball and nest ball,so i decieded to test them and got results which are: timer ball (1-5):x1;(6-9):x1.5;(10-12):x2.25;(>12):x3 nest ball (Lv.1-10)x3 (Lv.11-20)x2 (Lv>=21)x1 I didn't see the Changelog: 13/08/2018 until today ,now i need to correct it,but its quite close lol.so the left one is nest ball which ducoments that the capture rate is depended on the weakness of pokemon,so how is the weakness defined,my testing result shows its about pokemons' level. and my last question is even we calc it as 100% capture rate in theoretical,but atucally we cant catch it some times,like sleeping Hoppip with great ball and angry magikarp in safari. welcome to use my website to calc the pokemon capture rate(timer ball correct will be some later) Spoiler https://www.noseblue.cn/#/CaptureRate_en MrMalz, passionfruit69, Eferinte and 5 others 8 Link to comment
Minks Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 11 hours ago, passionfruit69 said: i really don't care about what olduguu like you have to say, new people join every day and basic information is required for new players to stick around, not everyone is unemployed or unschooled and can sit their asses and play all day for days, deal with it but u have the information, both in changelogs and in the item description. if ur unschooled to the point of being illiterate, then maybe u should work on that instead of playing videogames! Link to comment
razimove Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 this is why forum > game Link to comment
passionfruit69 Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 11 hours ago, BlueNose said: i studied the capture rate in pokemmo for some while and make a website to calc it automatically,most ducoments of balls explain their capture mods and cases,but there still were two balls i didnt know all about their capture mods which were timer ball and nest ball,so i decieded to test them and got results which are: timer ball (1-5):x1;(6-9):x1.5;(10-12):x2.25;(>12):x3 nest ball (Lv.1-10)x3 (Lv.11-20)x2 (Lv>=21)x1 I didn't see the Changelog: 13/08/2018 until today ,now i need to correct it,but its quite close lol.so the left one is nest ball which ducoments that the capture rate is depended on the weakness of pokemon,so how is the weakness defined,my testing result shows its about pokemons' level. and my last question is even we calc it as 100% capture rate in theoretical,but atucally we cant catch it some times,like sleeping Hoppip with great ball and angry magikarp in safari. welcome to use my website to calc the pokemon capture rate(timer ball correct will be some later) Hide contents https://www.noseblue.cn/#/CaptureRate_en this is fantastic, love it man will defo use it 7 hours ago, Minks said: but u have the information, both in changelogs and in the item description. if ur unschooled to the point of being illiterate, then maybe u should work on that instead of playing videogames! unfortunately 99% of people can't and won't sit through +10 years of changelogs just to get one bit of information that should be on a wiki or pinned general thread, if you do however, maybe you are the one who should work on doing something at all, cheers! Link to comment
Desu Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Alright, this thread's been answered. Going to leave it outside of trash so people can find it if they need it, but locking it. Crueldad 1 Link to comment
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