Rakhmaninov Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) Doubles Speed Tiers I'm gonna keep this guide simple and just paste the table lol Total Speed Pokemon Speed Modifiers (EVs, Stat Boosts) 284 Lilligant 252, *2 280 Excadrill 252, *2 274 Kingdra 252, *2 264 Venusaur 252, *2 264 Kabutops 252, *2 250 Volcarona 252+, *1.5 250 Staraptor 252+, *1.5 247 Hydreigon 252+, *1.5 244 Ludicolo 252, *2 222 Electrode 252+ 219 Gyarados 252+, *1.5 217 Togekiss 252+, *1.5 217 Dragonite 252+, *1.5 214 Blastoise 252+, *1.5 200 Jolteon 252+ 200 Aerodactyl 252+ 200 Crobat 252+ 194 Weavile 252+ 192 Pelipper 252+, *1.5 189 Alakazam 252+ 186 Tyranitar 252+, *1.5 184 Whimsicott 252+ 184 Jellicent 252+, *1.5 184 Abomasnow 252+, *1.5 183 Ambipom 252+ 183 Starmie 252+ 182 Jolteon 252 182 Crobat 252 182 Aerodactyl 252 181 Serperior 252+ 178 Gengar 252+ 178 Raichu 252+ 172 Manectric 252+ 172 Mienshao 252+ 169 Garchomp 252+ 167 Salamence 252+ 167 Volcarona 252+ 167 Linoone 252+ 167 Staraptor 252+ 165 Hydreigon 252+ 161 Arcanine 252+ 161 Gliscor 252+ 161 Lucario 252+ 161 Kangaskhan 252+ 154 Garchomp 252 152 Salamence 252 152 Volcarona 252 152 Linoone 252 152 Staraptor 252 151 Rotom-Wash/Mow/Heat 252+ 150 Hydreigon 252 150 Kingdra 252+ 147 Arcanine 252 146 Gyarados 252+ 145 Chandelure 252+ 145 Dragonite 252+ 145 Kabutops 252+ 145 Mamoswine 252+ 145 Togekiss 252+ 144 Vanilluxe 252+ 142 Lilligant 252 140 Excadrill 252 139 Smeargle 252+ 138 Rotom-Wash/Mow/Heat 252 137 Kingdra 252 134 Hitmontop 252+ 134 Breloom 252+ 134 Ludicolo 252+ 134 Metagross 252+ 134 Bisharp 252+ 134 Poliwrath 252+ 133 Gyarados 252 132 Chandelure 252 132 Dragonite 252 132 Kabutops 252 132 Mamoswine 252 128 Scizor 252+ 128 Pelipper 252+ 126 Arcanine 0 124 Tyranitar 252+ 122 Hitmontop 252 122 Breloom 252 122 Ludicolo 252 122 Metagross 252 122 Bisharp 252 122 Poliwrath 252 117 Scizor 252 117 Pelipper 252 113 Tyranitar 252 110 Mr. Mime 0 106 Rotom-Wash/Mow/Heat 0 101 Gyarados 0 101 Milotic 0 100 Mandibuzz 0 100 Mamoswine 0 100 Chandelure 0 100 Togekiss 0 98 Blastoise 0 90 Metagross 0 85 Scizor 0 85 Pelipper 0 81 Tyranitar 0 80 Jellicent 0 80 Abomasnow 0 80 Swampert 0 80 Porygon2 0 76 Chandelure 0-, 0 IVs 63 Scizor 0-, 0 IVs 63 Pelipper 0-, 0 IVs 59 Tyranitar 0-, 0 IVs 58 Jellicent 0-, 0 IVs 58 Abomasnow 0-, 0 IVs 58 Porygon2 0-, 0 IVs 54 Machamp 0-, 0 IVs 49 Hariyama 0-, 0 IVs 45 Conkeldurr 0-, 0 IVs 40 Beheeyem 0-, 0 IVs 40 Rhyperior 0-, 0 IVs 39 Gastrodon 0-, 0 IVs 34 Bronzong 0-, 0 IVs 31 Amoonguss 0-, 0 IVs 31 Cofagrigus 0-, 0 IVs 31 Reuniclus 0-, 0 IVs 31 Slowbro 0-, 0 IVs 31 Slowking 0-, 0 IVs 31 Snorlax 0-, 0 IVs 27 Dusclops 0-, 0 IVs 27 Gigalith 0-, 0 IVs 22 Ferrothorn 0-, 0 IVs 22 Escavalier 0-, 0 IVs 22 Torkoal 0-, 0 IVs 22 Torkoal 0-, 0 IVs Let me know if you have any suggestions/criticisms! I've tried to keep this stripped down to relevant speed tiers, so let me know if I've missed anything important! N.B: I haven't taken tailwind boosts into consideration. - Rakhmaninov Edited August 17, 2022 by Rakhmaninov Sashaolin, SuperiorHolmes, MikasaA and 13 others 14 1 1 Link to comment
noomuch Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 another table for their natures would be helpful, thanks. Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, noomuch said: another table for their natures would be helpful, thanks. 252+ is a speed boosting nature, 252 is non speed boosting nature, 0 is non speed hindering nature 31 IV and 0- 0 IV is speed hindering nature. Every reasonable speed scenario has been listed in this table, in my opinion. Kamowanthere, noomuch, Rakhmaninov and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
Rakhmaninov Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 hours ago, OrangeManiac said: 252+ is a speed boosting nature, 252 is non speed boosting nature, 0 is non speed hindering nature 31 IV and 0- 0 IV is speed hindering nature. Every reasonable speed scenario has been listed in this table, in my opinion. Yes that's correct, the table is written in shorthand. I might add some niche picks later on, like shell smash blastoise... Link to comment
TohnR Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Very nice, might get inspired from this for UU. From this list I learn Arcanine is the fastest "wall" that may run with no/little speed investment ? So tank Mence like it exists in OU isn't a thing? Rakhmaninov 1 Link to comment
Rakhmaninov Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TohnR said: Very nice, might get inspired from this for UU. From this list I learn Arcanine is the fastest "wall" that may run with no/little speed investment ? So tank Mence like it exists in OU isn't a thing? Thank you! The overwhelming majority of Salamence in doubles are offensively oriented, so no, tank mence doesn't exist in doubles. Edited May 22, 2021 by Rakhmaninov Link to comment
Unnefable Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 217 Dragonite 252+, *1.5 so this is a 252 Speed + Speed Nature....what about the 1.5? Rakhmaninov 1 Link to comment
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