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Here's the thing.  We have  the HeartGold Files in the game because of the Following pokemon in Pokemmo. Implementing  the 1999 version  just ruins what PokeMMO offers ( Custom sprites and Avatar, Following Pokemon)

 

 

Plus, You realise that Johto will arrive in most likely 5 years from now? 

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1 hour ago, RealMak said:

Here's the thing.  We have  the HeartGold Files in the game because of the Following pokemon in Pokemmo. Implementing  the 1999 version  just ruins what PokeMMO offers ( Custom sprites and Avatar, Following Pokemon)

 

 

Plus, You realise that Johto will arrive in most likely 5 years from now? 

So you have plenty of time to transform to the 1999 version. If you want

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4 minutes ago, RealMak said:

Why do you want the 1999 one when you can have the Remakes? Seriously..

Because many people entered the world of pokemon from that generation, that is the work that best represents pokemon.

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3 minutes ago, Shawn3K said:

Because many people entered the world of pokemon from that generation, that is the work that best represents pokemon.

But if you think that the Original Johto should be implemented, then they will have to add the original Kanto with the original 151 but we do have their remakes FireRed and LeafGreen. Adding HeartHold in PokeMMO instead of Gold can allow us to use our own pokemon to follow us around the map while its once again Johto but enchanced with improved models and sprites

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4 minutes ago, RealMak said:

But if you think that the Original Johto should be implemented, then they will have to add the original Kanto with the original 151 but we do have their remakes FireRed and LeafGreen. Adding HeartHold in PokeMMO instead of Gold can allow us to use our own pokemon to follow us around the map while its once again Johto but enchanced with improved models and sprites

If you can’t integrate the original Johto into PokeMMO due to technical issues, it’s ok.

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On 1/17/2021 at 11:31 PM, RealMak said:

Here's the thing.  We have  the HeartGold Files in the game because of the Following pokemon in Pokemmo. Implementing  the 1999 version  just ruins what PokeMMO offers ( Custom sprites and Avatar, Following Pokemon)

 

 

Plus, You realise that Johto will arrive in most likely 5 years from now? 

while I agree we should have the HeartGold Johto version first it would still be cool to play the older versions of the regions. they could cool customization options to make our characters look like they are from the 1999 Pokemon games. entering and exiting the older versions of the regions could be done by talking to a old person near the ship telling you about their old trainer days. we could catch the older versions of the Pokemon and take them back with us when we leave. 

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59 minutes ago, Negumiko said:

while I agree we should have the HeartGold Johto version first it would still be cool to play the older versions of the regions. they could cool customization options to make our characters look like they are from the 1999 Pokemon games. entering and exiting the older versions of the regions could be done by talking to a old person near the ship telling you about their old trainer days. we could catch the older versions of the Pokemon and take them back with us when we leave. 

I like you.

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5 hours ago, Kryuko said:

#johtomorrow

I would like to implement the region by myself, but they don't want new developers in the team, i've already asked.

They think they're much better then you while they're not even close to be good

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On 1/18/2021 at 2:20 AM, Shawn3K said:

can it be the 1999 version? That's the real Johto.

If they add Johto it is almost 100% certain they will use the HG/SS remakes for a couple reasons.

 

1) The data structure for the Pokemon in the original G/S/C is entirely different from what we have now.

Back in Gen 1 and Gen 2 Pokemon didn't have EVs and IVs, they have DVs. They used a different means of calculating stats. This is the big reason why you couldn't trade from G/S/C to R/S/E or FR/LG. This is also why FR/LG exist in Gen 3, to give you access to the Gen 1 & 2 Pokemon that don't spawn in Hoenn.

2) The NDS sprites already pull from HG/SS for those graphic styles in Hoenn. Why would they try to reconcile the difference in sprites between GBA, NDS, and GB/GBC?

3) Everything that already exists in Gen 2 also exists in HG/SS with some changes. HG/SS also adds more potential endgame content, Pokeathlon anyone? It doesn't make sense to go all the way back to 1999 and add less content when you can use what you already have.

4) They already know how to read and render from an NDS file. In order to use GB/GBC files they would need to write different code to handle it, and then reconcile issues with point 1. At that point it'd be much better to cut their losses and work from the NDS remakes.

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17 minutes ago, XelaKebert said:

If they add Johto it is almost 100% certain they will use the HG/SS remakes for a couple reasons.

 

1) The data structure for the Pokemon in the original G/S/C is entirely different from what we have now.

Back in Gen 1 and Gen 2 Pokemon didn't have EVs and IVs, they have DVs. They used a different means of calculating stats. This is the big reason why you couldn't trade from G/S/C to R/S/E or FR/LG. This is also why FR/LG exist in Gen 3, to give you access to the Gen 1 & 2 Pokemon that don't spawn in Hoenn.

2) The NDS sprites already pull from HG/SS for those graphic styles in Hoenn. Why would they try to reconcile the difference in sprites between GBA, NDS, and GB/GBC?

3) Everything that already exists in Gen 2 also exists in HG/SS with some changes. HG/SS also adds more potential endgame content, Pokeathlon anyone? It doesn't make sense to go all the way back to 1999 and add less content when you can use what you already have.

4) They already know how to read and render from an NDS file. In order to use GB/GBC files they would need to write different code to handle it, and then reconcile issues with point 1. At that point it'd be much better to cut their losses and work from the NDS remakes.

Totally agree, it doesnt make any sense to include the original game from 1999.

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