JorgeFirebolt Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I dont feel like droping dugtrio and electrode to NU is a good idea with the big variety of screen abusers/set up sweepers there is inside NU itself, it would completly ruin what NU used to be.. MendeeZ, Zymogen and DiosSlurpuff 3 Link to comment
MendeeZ Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, JorgeFirebolt said: I dont feel like droping dugtrio and electrode to NU is a good idea with the big variety of screen abusers/set up sweepers there is inside NU itself, it would completly ruin what NU used to be.. I agree, just imagine screens, memento and gg Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) I agree, Dugtrio seems quite uncompetitive for the NU tier with the majority of its common mons susceptible to either a trapped RK (Blaziken, Manectric, Magneton, Houndoom), or an outright kill to break down opposing walls (Steelix, Drapion, Gigalith, Rhydon). It can even pressure Mismagius with Pursuit. Add that it needs very little moveset variability to be effective (Jolly with Focus Sash and EQ, Stealth Rock, Memento, Pursuit/Stone Edge) and you have a potent killing machine that can also provide a remarkable amount of support. It's a great Pokemon, but also one that probably shouldn't be in our Neverused tier. I'd support an instant ban from NU. Edited December 29, 2020 by DoubleJ Gigalith UU, whooooops Deadwind, NOREButler, Makarovs and 8 others 11 Link to comment
Akaruyo Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Agree with the Dugtrio quick ban. Offers too much with little to no drawback, not healthy at all. Machamp might be also suspect material but If Gligar drops with him I'm not very sure anymore. It'll at least be centralizing kind of like Conkeldurr in OU (which isn't really healthy lol). I can't think of many switch ins besides Spiritomb? (Fuck that mon but if Machamp does come back then it'd be a good mon again I guess). Electrode is the least dangerous but at the same time still quite toxic in NU. I mean we have a screener already in Serperior, but main difference is Electrode has Explosion and can give insta moméntum, + the speed it has allows it to outspeed even the likes of Blaziken Scarf. I don't really like these guys coming to NU but I can't say either they all don't have a place in the tier. Let's see how they do after a while. Moi, NOREButler and NikhilR 3 Link to comment
NOREButler Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Akaruyo said: I can't think of many switch ins besides Spiritomb? Musharna, Weezing, Golbat, Duosion, Nidoqueen, Venu, Slowking, Egg, Tangela/Tangrowth (sands gone, whoop whoop), bulky Croak, Rotom, bulky Gurdurr might all be worth looking into; probably even more. Guts/BU doesnt play much different than Hariyama, which is in a healthy spot and while SubChamp is annoying the mons above should handle it. More screens seems annoying, but dont think trode can be put to BL for being fast and setting them up. Fuck duggy in NU... JJ summed it up nicely and im really glad theres tc members that dont want to see NU burn. I really am. Altough nobody can really influence that, i really hope Gligar is gonna drop. Would be cool to see a good mon for balance. Sand gone is great too, so thank you UU people. pachima, HermitG, Stelian and 1 other 4 Link to comment
DarylDixon Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 hours ago, NOREButler said: Musharna, Weezing, Golbat, Duosion, Nidoqueen, Venu, Slowking, Egg, Tangela/Tangrowth (sands gone, whoop whoop), bulky Croak, Rotom, bulky Gurdurr might all be worth looking into; probably even more. Guts/BU doesnt play much different than Hariyama, which is in a healthy spot and while SubChamp is annoying the mons above should handle it. More screens seems annoying, but dont think trode can be put to BL for being fast and setting them up. Fuck duggy in NU... JJ summed it up nicely and im really glad theres tc members that dont want to see NU burn. I really am. Altough nobody can really influence that, i really hope Gligar is gonna drop. Would be cool to see a good mon for balance. Sand gone is great too, so thank you UU people. what does mean balance for nu players? i dont have idea to Link to comment
NOREButler Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, DarylDixon said: what does mean balance for nu players? i dont have idea to You mean how to play balance? Link to comment
DarylDixon Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, NOREButler said: You mean how to play balance? even that, how to play balance in nu now Link to comment
NOREButler Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, DarylDixon said: even that, how to play balance in nu now Depends on what drops i guess. Who knows if its even viable, but cant be in a worse spot with gligar avilable and giga gone. Edited December 29, 2020 by NOREButler Link to comment
DarylDixon Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, NOREButler said: @Aerun why tag too, we both know nu isnt anymore a balanced tier jaja Link to comment
NOREButler Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, DarylDixon said: why tag too, we both know nu isnt anymore a balanced tier jaja Cause you´re in the same team and he plays balance. Welp, nvm. Edited December 30, 2020 by NOREButler Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 give us dugtrioooo dont give us gligar Suneet 1 Link to comment
Munya Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 Not looking good for Gligar, cutoff is tonight. Link to comment
JvPhoenix Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Jellicent deserves to go to OU. Zymogen 1 Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 vaporeon deserves to go ou Zymogen 1 Link to comment
Quinn010 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) ambipom deserves to go to OU Edited December 29, 2020 by Quinn010 #freelc Zymogen 1 Link to comment
xMago Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 @Munya why changes just updated when have a NU tournament today and tomorrow? Link to comment
Munya Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 Because they are not automated and require certain people to be around to make the changes. Link to comment
NOREButler Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Are the changes in the announcement the finals ones; is Dugtrio NU now or is there still time for a quick ban if tc wanted to? Link to comment
Munya Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 They can later but doing it before even seeing if it is an issue is something i would advise against. Link to comment
xMago Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, NOREButler said: Are the changes in the announcement the finals ones; is Dugtrio NU now or is there still time for a quick ban if tc wanted to? surprise, linoone and manectric UT. DiosSlurpuff and Munya 1 1 Link to comment
NOREButler Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, xMago said: surprise, linoone and manectric UT. So? How is Mane being untiered a surprise? And linoones gonna peak now with trode NU, dont worry. Time to get into other tiers. Duggy NU is a huge step backwards, but whatever. Link to comment
xMago Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, NOREButler said: So? How is Mane being untiered a surprise? And linoones gonna peak now with trode NU, dont worry. Time to get into other tiers. Duggy NU is a huge step backwards, but whatever. without nidoqueen, manectric can give many nu teams a lot of trouble. now with dugtrio if u trapp nidoqueen, manectric can play good too. Link to comment
NOREButler Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, xMago said: without nidoqueen, manectric can give many nu teams a lot of trouble. now with dugtrio if u trapp nidoqueen, manectric can play good too. Theres way better mons/strats dugtrio can enable, its not like Queen was the only reason nobody uses Manectric. Link to comment
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