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1 minute ago, NOREButler said:

If you dont know how Magneton interacts with other steel types you should consider quitting tc.

Magneton traps Bronzor and then?

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Just now, gbwead said:

Magneton traps Bronzor and then?

Im not gonna play this stupid game with you again. You know what i mean, so either gimme something constructive or fuck off.

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1 minute ago, NOREButler said:

Im not gonna play this stupid game with you again. You know what i mean, so either gimme something constructive or fuck off.

No, I don't know what you mean. If Bronzor is a sitting duck against Magneton like you claim, please tell me what Magneton is going to do that you apparently deem threatening.

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15 minutes ago, Rigox507 said:

No suban a machamp plis

Ban roserade

machamp no fue baneado por ser op, fue para el usage :v

Edited by DarylDixon

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3 minutes ago, gbwead said:

No, I don't know what you mean. If Bronzor is a sitting duck against Magneton like you claim, please tell me what Magneton is going to do that you apparently deem threatening.

Kill it?

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7 minutes ago, NOREButler said:

Im not gonna play this stupid game with you again. You know what i mean, so either gimme something constructive or fuck off.

btw i dont see magnetons walking around it's kinda extremly rare finding one, but with roserade, you are kinda forced to play that trash of bronzor

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252+ SpA Choice Specs Magneton Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Bronzor: 64-76 (39 - 46.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
unless bronzor has a 2 turn rest i dont know about..

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Just now, gbwead said:

What's your Magneton set?

Who says i got one? How would me having one be relevant?
 
252 SpA Choice Specs Magneton Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Bronzor: 58-70 (35.3 - 42.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
 

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Just now, NOREButler said:
Who says i got one? How would me having one be relevant?
 
252 SpA Choice Specs Magneton Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Bronzor: 58-70 (35.3 - 42.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
 

That's a 3HKO. Bronzor can 2-3HKO Magneton with Psywave, so it's not a sitting duck.

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Just now, gbwead said:

That's a 3HKO. Bronzor can 2-3HKO Magneton with Psywave, so it's not a sitting duck.

force it to rest then trap it, its rlly not that complicated idk why youre playing dumb

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1 minute ago, RLotus said:

force it to rest then trap it, its rlly not that complicated idk why youre playing dumb

1. Magneton is hardly played.

2. When Magneton is played,  it is rarely played Choice Spec (20%).

3. When Magneton is played, Timid is the most common nature (not modest like your calcs).

 

So really, I'm not playing dumb, I'm just challenging these weird assumptions that somehow would invalidate Bronzor as a Roserade Counter.

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Just now, gbwead said:

1. Magneton is hardly played.

2. When Magneton is played,  it is rarely played Choice Spec (20%).

3. When Magneton is played, Timid is the most common nature (not modest like your calcs).

 

So really, I'm not playing dumb, I'm just challenging these weird assumptions that somehow would invalidate Bronzor as a Roserade Counter.

same can be said about vullaby, driftblim, and the rest of the trashmons you suggest as rose checks, but its irrelevant now that rose is banned anyway

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Just now, gbwead said:

1. Magneton is hardly played.

2. When Magneton is played,  it is rarely played Choice Spec (20%).

3. When Magneton is played, Timid is the most common nature (not modest like your calcs).

 

So really, I'm not playing dumb, I'm just challenging these weird assumptions that somehow would invalidate Bronzor as a Roserade Counter.

1. Might change soon, because Slowbro further strenghtens Ferro/Escava/Bronzor cores.

2. So because most people dont use the set necessary to even kill bronzor i cant play it either?

3. My calc is Timid Specs.

 

What you are challenging is other peoples patience, nothing else.

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1 minute ago, RLotus said:

same can be said about vullaby, driftblim, and the rest of the trashmons you suggest as rose checks, but its irrelevant now that rose is banned anyway

That's the difference. I named several mons, not just one that represent less than 0.5% of what is commonly played.

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1 minute ago, gbwead said:

That's the difference. I named several mons, not just one that represent less than 0.5% of what is commonly played.

very cool

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best counter for roserade and is still wish passer H Y P N O    85HP/115 SP DEF '-----'

252 SpA Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hypno: 94-112 (25.1 - 29.9%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hypno: 78-93 (20.8 - 24.8%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery

wish/psychic/toxic/protect ez tank '-'

 

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16 minutes ago, PedroLindoUnico said:

 

best counter for roserade and is still wish passer H Y P N O    85HP/115 SP DEF '-----'

252 SpA Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hypno: 94-112 (25.1 - 29.9%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hypno: 78-93 (20.8 - 24.8%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery

wish/psychic/toxic/protect ez tank '-'

 

STILL SAYONARA ROSERADE  

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, ThinkNicer said:

Why is hydreigon still in OU when it does the same thing Roserade does in NU

my dragon pulse hydreigon did nothing wrong

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