gbwead Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, NOREButler said: If you dont know how Magneton interacts with other steel types you should consider quitting tc. Magneton traps Bronzor and then? Link to comment
NOREButler Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, gbwead said: Magneton traps Bronzor and then? Im not gonna play this stupid game with you again. You know what i mean, so either gimme something constructive or fuck off. Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, NOREButler said: Im not gonna play this stupid game with you again. You know what i mean, so either gimme something constructive or fuck off. No, I don't know what you mean. If Bronzor is a sitting duck against Magneton like you claim, please tell me what Magneton is going to do that you apparently deem threatening. Link to comment
DarylDixon Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Rigox507 said: No suban a machamp plis Ban roserade machamp no fue baneado por ser op, fue para el usage :v Edited September 30, 2020 by DarylDixon Link to comment
NOREButler Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, gbwead said: No, I don't know what you mean. If Bronzor is a sitting duck against Magneton like you claim, please tell me what Magneton is going to do that you apparently deem threatening. Kill it? Link to comment
DarylDixon Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, NOREButler said: Im not gonna play this stupid game with you again. You know what i mean, so either gimme something constructive or fuck off. btw i dont see magnetons walking around it's kinda extremly rare finding one, but with roserade, you are kinda forced to play that trash of bronzor Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, NOREButler said: Kill it? What's your Magneton set? Link to comment
RLotus Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 252+ SpA Choice Specs Magneton Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Bronzor: 64-76 (39 - 46.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO unless bronzor has a 2 turn rest i dont know about.. Link to comment
NOREButler Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, gbwead said: What's your Magneton set? Who says i got one? How would me having one be relevant? 252 SpA Choice Specs Magneton Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Bronzor: 58-70 (35.3 - 42.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, NOREButler said: Who says i got one? How would me having one be relevant? 252 SpA Choice Specs Magneton Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Bronzor: 58-70 (35.3 - 42.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO That's a 3HKO. Bronzor can 2-3HKO Magneton with Psywave, so it's not a sitting duck. Link to comment
RLotus Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, gbwead said: That's a 3HKO. Bronzor can 2-3HKO Magneton with Psywave, so it's not a sitting duck. force it to rest then trap it, its rlly not that complicated idk why youre playing dumb NOREButler and HermitG 1 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, RLotus said: force it to rest then trap it, its rlly not that complicated idk why youre playing dumb 1. Magneton is hardly played. 2. When Magneton is played, it is rarely played Choice Spec (20%). 3. When Magneton is played, Timid is the most common nature (not modest like your calcs). So really, I'm not playing dumb, I'm just challenging these weird assumptions that somehow would invalidate Bronzor as a Roserade Counter. Link to comment
RLotus Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, gbwead said: 1. Magneton is hardly played. 2. When Magneton is played, it is rarely played Choice Spec (20%). 3. When Magneton is played, Timid is the most common nature (not modest like your calcs). So really, I'm not playing dumb, I'm just challenging these weird assumptions that somehow would invalidate Bronzor as a Roserade Counter. same can be said about vullaby, driftblim, and the rest of the trashmons you suggest as rose checks, but its irrelevant now that rose is banned anyway HermitG 1 Link to comment
NOREButler Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, gbwead said: 1. Magneton is hardly played. 2. When Magneton is played, it is rarely played Choice Spec (20%). 3. When Magneton is played, Timid is the most common nature (not modest like your calcs). So really, I'm not playing dumb, I'm just challenging these weird assumptions that somehow would invalidate Bronzor as a Roserade Counter. 1. Might change soon, because Slowbro further strenghtens Ferro/Escava/Bronzor cores. 2. So because most people dont use the set necessary to even kill bronzor i cant play it either? 3. My calc is Timid Specs. What you are challenging is other peoples patience, nothing else. HermitG 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, RLotus said: same can be said about vullaby, driftblim, and the rest of the trashmons you suggest as rose checks, but its irrelevant now that rose is banned anyway That's the difference. I named several mons, not just one that represent less than 0.5% of what is commonly played. Link to comment
DarylDixon Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Banned to BL2:Roserade - Voted out(Barely) b Makarovs, RysPicz, LeJovi and 4 others 7 Link to comment
RLotus Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, gbwead said: That's the difference. I named several mons, not just one that represent less than 0.5% of what is commonly played. very cool Link to comment
LifeStyleNORE Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Finally TC did something useful Link to comment
PedroLindoUnico Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 best counter for roserade and is still wish passer H Y P N O 85HP/115 SP DEF '-----' 252 SpA Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hypno: 94-112 (25.1 - 29.9%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hypno: 78-93 (20.8 - 24.8%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery wish/psychic/toxic/protect ez tank '-' Link to comment
DarylDixon Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, PedroLindoUnico said: best counter for roserade and is still wish passer H Y P N O 85HP/115 SP DEF '-----' 252 SpA Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hypno: 94-112 (25.1 - 29.9%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hypno: 78-93 (20.8 - 24.8%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery wish/psychic/toxic/protect ez tank '-' STILL SAYONARA ROSERADE Link to comment
ThinkNicer Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Why is hydreigon still in OU when it does the same thing Roserade does in NU Link to comment
Zerooo Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 because we can only have one wish fulfilled per month Huargensy, senzui, Torinnnnn and 5 others 8 Link to comment
Kamowanthere Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 hours ago, ThinkNicer said: Why is hydreigon still in OU when it does the same thing Roserade does in NU my dragon pulse hydreigon did nothing wrong Link to comment
IHateEverything Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Ban blissey wish+teleport Link to comment
LifeStyleNORE Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 hours ago, IHateEverything said: Ban blissey wish+teleport run Taunt and/or Roar Link to comment
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