EricRasp Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I've been seeing so many comments about how broken Roserade is in NU and I haven't seen anyone counter it. Are the TC considering pushing Roserade to UU or to NUBL? I'd like to hear what they think about Roserade in NU and what plans they have for it. Link to comment
Kupokun Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, EricRasp said: I've been seeing so many comments about how broken Roserade is in NU and I haven't seen anyone counter it. Are the TC considering pushing Roserade to UU or to NUBL? I'd like to hear what they think about Roserade in NU and what plans they have for it. One mon, Giga. All im saying. Link to comment
hannahtaylor Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kupokun said: One mon, Giga. All im saying. Are you saying Gigalith can go against Roserade or what are you saying? OrangeManiac 1 Link to comment
Kupokun Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Just now, hannahtaylor said: Are you saying Gigalith can go against Roserade or what are you saying? Dependent on healthy and roserade build, yes. Sadly results in a sac but worthwhile. Link to comment
hannahtaylor Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Kupokun said: Dependent on healthy and roserade build, yes. Sadly results in a sac but worthwhile. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gigalith: 374-444 (194.7 - 231.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Life Orb Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gigalith: 328-385 (170.8 - 200.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gigalith: 299-354 (155.7 - 184.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Choice Specs Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gigalith: 342-404 (178.1 - 210.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO If you run sturdy that can easily be broken Link to comment
Kupokun Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, hannahtaylor said: 252+ SpA Choice Specs Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gigalith: 374-444 (194.7 - 231.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Life Orb Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gigalith: 328-385 (170.8 - 200.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gigalith: 299-354 (155.7 - 184.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Choice Specs Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gigalith: 342-404 (178.1 - 210.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO If you run sturdy that can easily be broken 0 Atk Gigalith Explosion vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roserade: 330-389 (126.4 - 149%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gigalith in Sand: 134-158 (35.8 - 42.2%) -- 89.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Clearly i dont calc enough to care, but you get the idea.. i would hope. Edited September 28, 2020 by Kupokun ThinkNicer 1 Link to comment
LifeStyleNORE Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 ban Roserade hannahtaylor, FighterChamp and EricRasp 3 Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Imagine using Explosion calculation as an argument of something being a counter. razimove, Kamowanthere, CristiDOX and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Kupokun Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Imagine commenting meaningless comments, when there was a answer to it. ThinkNicer 1 Link to comment
Quinn010 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Bouffalant: 74-87 (36.6 - 43%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 4 Atk Bouffalant Giga Impact vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roserade: 130-154 (96.2 - 114%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO sap sipper bouflant guys just saying you also can get atk boost if they hit with grass stonks Edited September 28, 2020 by Quinn010 Link to comment
Zigh Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kupokun said: Imagine commenting meaningless comments, when there was a answer to it. ? So you just explode, opponent switches and then what Edited September 28, 2020 by Zigh Link to comment
hannahtaylor Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I wouldn't call sacrificing a pokemon a counter or 'answer' CristiDOX 1 Link to comment
Zigh Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Here, another counter 252+ Atk Life Orb Weezing Self-Destruct vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roserade: 134-159 (99.2 - 117.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO LeJovi, OrangeManiac, razimove and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Catman16 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Zoroark: 134-158 (35.8 - 42.2%) -- 89.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 0 Atk Zoroark Memento vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roserade: 330-389 (126.4 - 149%) -- guaranteed OHKO The calcs don't lie Edited September 28, 2020 by Catman16 CristiDOX, Zymogen, DarylDixon and 3 others 6 Link to comment
razimove Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 nuke roserade @DarylDixon Link to comment
Aerun Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Someone suggested explosion lmao what am I reading Link to comment
PedroLindoUnico Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 i just want swampert on Under Used ;-; Link to comment
ThinkNicer Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 20 hours ago, gbwead said: My votes: Hydreigon - undecided (will edit later) Update pls Link to comment
Kamowanthere Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Quinn010 said: 252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Bouffalant: 74-87 (36.6 - 43%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 4 Atk Bouffalant Giga Impact vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roserade: 130-154 (96.2 - 114%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO sap sipper bouflant guys just saying you also can get atk boost if they hit with grass stonks THIS. Link to comment
Munya Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 55 minutes ago, ThinkNicer said: Update pls All Usage Winning Teams Only(Matchmaking + Tournament) Spoiler All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams 1547928 257988 Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage Scizor (212) 93075 36.08% Conkeldurr (534) 80200 31.09% Hydreigon (635) 68797 26.67% Blissey (242) 53648 20.79% Rotom Wash (658) 53358 20.68% Volcarona (637) 48816 18.92% Tyranitar (248) 46691 18.10% Skarmory (227) 45619 17.68% Ferrothorn (598) 45419 17.61% Gengar (94) 45417 17.60% Pelipper (279) 40663 15.76% Cofagrigus (563) 39619 15.36% Kingdra (230) 39350 15.25% Jolteon (135) 38545 14.94% Magnezone (462) 37516 14.54% Togekiss (468) 34690 13.45% Gyarados (130) 33209 12.87% Reuniclus (579) 32528 12.61% Dragonite (149) 31546 12.23% Breloom (286) 31220 12.10% Chansey (113) 29884 11.58% Salamence (373) 28754 11.15% Excadrill (530) 28698 11.12% Mienshao (620) 26852 10.41% Milotic (350) 25668 9.95% Hippowdon (450) 25621 9.93% Tentacruel (73) 24751 9.59% Darmanitan (555) 21903 8.49% Cloyster (91) 20596 7.98% Gliscor (472) 19909 7.72% Chandelure (609) 19633 7.61% Gastrodon (423) 19139 7.42% Infernape (392) 18307 7.10% Mandibuzz (630) 17881 6.93% Starmie (121) 15794 6.12% Swampert (260) 15642 6.06% Kabutops (141) 15571 6.04% Lucario (448) 10062 3.90% Dugtrio (51) 9537 3.70% Metagross (376) 6962 2.70% Torkoal (324) 6955 2.70% Ludicolo (272) 6819 2.64% Arcanine (59) 6815 2.64% Aerodactyl (142) 6365 2.47% Porygon2 (233) 6326 2.45% Umbreon (197) 6215 2.41% Rotom Mow (661) 6120 2.37% Electrode (101) 6045 2.34% Haxorus (612) 5943 2.30% Weavile (461) 5874 2.28% Bronzong (437) 5244 2.03% Crobat (169) 4133 1.60% Dusclops (356) 4095 1.59% Jellicent (593) 3718 1.44% Venusaur (3) 3674 1.42% Scrafty (560) 3601 1.40% Alakazam (65) 3324 1.29% Forretress (205) 3262 1.26% Flygon (330) 3262 1.26% Heracross (214) 3190 1.24% Snorlax (143) 3130 1.21% Lanturn (171) 3107 1.20% Azumarill (184) 2700 1.05% Mamoswine (473) 2696 1.05% Zoroark (571) 2685 1.04% Yanmega (469) 2425 0.94% Sigilyph (561) 2333 0.90% Wobbuffet (202) 2207 0.86% Blastoise (9) 2105 0.82% Krookodile (553) 2012 0.78% Bisharp (625) 1995 0.77% Staraptor (398) 1976 0.77% Exeggutor (103) 1966 0.76% Mantine (226) 1929 0.75% Rotom Heat (657) 1909 0.74% Whimsicott (547) 1882 0.73% Empoleon (395) 1817 0.70% Porygon-Z (474) 1812 0.70% Electivire (466) 1699 0.66% Charizard (6) 1690 0.66% Toxicroak (454) 1684 0.65% Donphan (232) 1605 0.62% Gigalith (526) 1572 0.61% Ambipom (424) 1499 0.58% Gardevoir (282) 1452 0.56% Venomoth (49) 1372 0.53% Vaporeon (134) 1358 0.53% Marowak (105) 1325 0.51% Roserade (407) 1298 0.50% Victreebel (71) 1184 0.46% Sceptile (254) 1144 0.44% Serperior (497) 1120 0.43% Medicham (308) 1119 0.43% Slowbro (80) 1111 0.43% Typhlosion (157) 1072 0.42% Gallade (475) 1066 0.41% Garchomp (445) 974 0.38% Ursaring (217) 973 0.38% Smeargle (235) 929 0.36% Lilligant (549) 914 0.35% Archeops (567) 905 0.35% Eelektross (604) 895 0.35% Seismitoad (537) 887 0.34% Swellow (277) 884 0.34% Pikachu (25) 867 0.34% Rhyperior (464) 852 0.33% Hariyama (297) 841 0.33% Machamp (68) 795 0.31% Weezing (110) 760 0.29% Spiritomb (442) 742 0.29% Honchkrow (430) 727 0.28% Gligar (207) 727 0.28% Aggron (306) 707 0.27% Stoutland (508) 692 0.27% Shuckle (213) 679 0.26% Galvantula (596) 679 0.26% Linoone (264) 667 0.26% Blaziken (257) 660 0.26% Shedinja (292) 602 0.23% Espeon (196) 593 0.23% Omastar (139) 570 0.22% Dusknoir (477) 549 0.21% Drapion (452) 545 0.21% Clefable (36) 500 0.19% Druddigon (621) 491 0.19% Ampharos (181) 490 0.19% Slaking (289) 485 0.19% Steelix (208) 469 0.18% Poliwrath (62) 441 0.17% Froslass (478) 423 0.16% Manectric (310) 403 0.16% Gorebyss (368) 402 0.16% Escavalier (589) 388 0.15% Hitmonlee (106) 380 0.15% Mismagius (429) 362 0.14% Absol (359) 362 0.14% Durant (632) 359 0.14% Golbat (42) 357 0.14% Amoonguss (591) 355 0.14% Probopass (476) 342 0.13% Nidoking (34) 341 0.13% Hitmontop (237) 340 0.13% Tangrowth (465) 320 0.12% Floatzel (419) 320 0.12% Audino (531) 313 0.12% Slowking (199) 298 0.12% Rotom Fan (660) 297 0.12% Abomasnow (460) 297 0.12% Scyther (123) 296 0.11% Sawsbuck (586) 286 0.11% Butterfree (12) 286 0.11% Sawk (539) 281 0.11% Cradily (346) 279 0.11% Kangaskhan (115) 278 0.11% Vanilluxe (584) 277 0.11% Golurk (623) 276 0.11% Magneton (82) 251 0.10% Lapras (131) 251 0.10% Houndoom (229) 248 0.10% Torterra (389) 246 0.10% Claydol (344) 237 0.09% Accelgor (617) 236 0.09% Bouffalant (626) 234 0.09% Golem (76) 226 0.09% Bastiodon (411) 225 0.09% Rhydon (112) 222 0.09% Feraligatr (160) 219 0.08% Shiftry (275) 199 0.08% Ninjask (291) 199 0.08% Mr. Mime (122) 186 0.07% Luxray (405) 184 0.07% Armaldo (348) 183 0.07% Braviary (628) 181 0.07% Vileplume (45) 172 0.07% Lopunny (428) 168 0.07% Politoed (186) 162 0.06% Miltank (241) 145 0.06% Magmortar (467) 133 0.05% Scolipede (545) 131 0.05% Nidoqueen (31) 131 0.05% Rampardos (409) 120 0.05% Muk (89) 119 0.05% Qwilfish (211) 118 0.05% Sableye (302) 114 0.04% Crustle (558) 112 0.04% Raichu (26) 101 0.04% Samurott (503) 91 0.04% Crawdaunt (342) 86 0.03% Dodrio (85) 84 0.03% Stunfisk (618) 80 0.03% Rotom (479) 79 0.03% Musharna (518) 78 0.03% Zangoose (335) 77 0.03% Tauros (128) 77 0.03% Emboar (500) 77 0.03% Walrein (365) 72 0.03% Golduck (55) 71 0.03% Leavanny (542) 69 0.03% Altaria (334) 69 0.03% Leafeon (470) 64 0.02% Ninetales (38) 63 0.02% Quagsire (195) 59 0.02% Cryogonal (615) 54 0.02% Hitmonchan (107) 53 0.02% Jynx (124) 52 0.02% Carracosta (565) 51 0.02% Cinccino (573) 49 0.02% Bibarel (400) 49 0.02% Basculin (Blue Stripe) (665) 47 0.02% Gurdurr (533) 47 0.02% Drifblim (426) 47 0.02% Klinklang (601) 43 0.02% Kecleon (352) 42 0.02% Primeape (57) 41 0.02% Alomomola (594) 41 0.02% Sharpedo (319) 39 0.02% Glaceon (471) 39 0.02% Rapidash (78) 38 0.01% Piloswine (221) 36 0.01% Flareon (136) 35 0.01% Masquerain (284) 34 0.01% Misdreavus (200) 32 0.01% Huntail (367) 32 0.01% Rotom Frost (659) 31 0.01% Relicanth (369) 29 0.01% Meganium (154) 29 0.01% Throh (538) 27 0.01% Mawile (303) 27 0.01% Skuntank (435) 25 0.01% Jumpluff (189) 23 0.01% Camerupt (323) 22 0.01% Gothitelle (576) 20 0.01% Cacturne (332) 20 0.01% Persian (53) 19 0.01% Beheeyem (606) 19 0.01% Raticate (20) 18 0.01% Lickilicky (463) 18 0.01% Seaking (119) 17 0.01% Zebstrika (523) 16 0.01% Meowth (52) 15 0.01% Banette (354) 15 0.01% Xatu (178) 14 0.01% Wailord (321) 14 0.01% Vespiquen (416) 14 0.01% Sandslash (28) 14 0.01% Trubbish (568) 12 0.00% Tropius (357) 12 0.00% Beartic (614) 12 0.00% Whiscash (340) 11 0.00% Pidgeot (18) 11 0.00% Mightyena (262) 11 0.00% Trapinch (328) 10 0.00% Tangela (114) 10 0.00% Sudowoodo (185) 10 0.00% Starly (396) 10 0.00% Pinsir (127) 10 0.00% Munchlax (446) 10 0.00% Emolga (587) 10 0.00% Bronzor (436) 10 0.00% Boldore (525) 10 0.00% Basculin (550) 10 0.00% Taillow (276) 9 0.00% Ditto (132) 9 0.00% Unfezant (521) 8 0.00% Swanna (581) 8 0.00% Kingler (99) 8 0.00% Haunter (93) 8 0.00% Bellossom (182) 8 0.00% Roselia (315) 7 0.00% Chatot (441) 7 0.00% Magmar (126) 6 0.00% Liepard (510) 6 0.00% Grumpig (326) 6 0.00% Fearow (22) 6 0.00% Cherrim (421) 6 0.00% Parasect (47) 5 0.00% Octillery (224) 5 0.00% Magcargo (219) 5 0.00% Lairon (305) 5 0.00% Ferroseed (597) 5 0.00% Farfetch'd (83) 5 0.00% Duskull (355) 5 0.00% Dunsparce (206) 5 0.00% Corsola (222) 5 0.00% Chimecho (358) 5 0.00% Aron (304) 5 0.00% Wormadam (Trash) (654) 4 0.00% Simisage (512) 4 0.00% Purugly (432) 4 0.00% Nosepass (299) 4 0.00% Swalot (317) 3 0.00% Granbull (210) 3 0.00% Beautifly (267) 3 0.00% Zweilous (634) 2 0.00% Wynaut (360) 2 0.00% Wigglytuff (40) 2 0.00% Voltorb (100) 2 0.00% Staravia (397) 2 0.00% Simipour (516) 2 0.00% Seviper (336) 2 0.00% Riolu (447) 2 0.00% Lunatone (337) 2 0.00% Hypno (97) 2 0.00% Garbodor (569) 2 0.00% Dustox (269) 2 0.00% Beedrill (15) 2 0.00% Squirtle (7) 1 0.00% Solrock (338) 1 0.00% Seadra (117) 1 0.00% Rattata (19) 1 0.00% Noctowl (164) 1 0.00% Murkrow (198) 1 0.00% Metang (375) 1 0.00% Kirlia (281) 1 0.00% Kadabra (64) 1 0.00% Gothorita (575) 1 0.00% Gastly (92) 1 0.00% Eevee (133) 1 0.00% Eelektrik (603) 1 0.00% Dragonair (148) 1 0.00% Dewgong (87) 1 0.00% Delibird (225) 1 0.00% Clefairy (35) 1 0.00% Clamperl (366) 1 0.00% Bayleef (153) 1 0.00% Arbok (24) 1 0.00% Tournament Winning Teams Only Spoiler All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams 6276 1046 Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage Scizor (212) 343 32.79% Hydreigon (635) 342 32.70% Blissey (242) 331 31.64% Conkeldurr (534) 330 31.55% Rotom Wash (658) 299 28.59% Tyranitar (248) 263 25.14% Hippowdon (450) 190 18.16% Cofagrigus (563) 183 17.50% Reuniclus (579) 173 16.54% Gengar (94) 165 15.77% Gliscor (472) 163 15.58% Skarmory (227) 151 14.44% Togekiss (468) 148 14.15% Excadrill (530) 147 14.05% Dragonite (149) 144 13.77% Ferrothorn (598) 138 13.19% Magnezone (462) 134 12.81% Pelipper (279) 126 12.05% Kingdra (230) 125 11.95% Breloom (286) 122 11.66% Tentacruel (73) 122 11.66% Gyarados (130) 108 10.33% Mienshao (620) 106 10.13% Volcarona (637) 101 9.66% Starmie (121) 99 9.46% Dugtrio (51) 94 8.99% Milotic (350) 94 8.99% Mandibuzz (630) 92 8.80% Infernape (392) 90 8.60% Swampert (260) 84 8.03% Jolteon (135) 83 7.93% Chandelure (609) 82 7.84% Gastrodon (423) 81 7.74% Salamence (373) 79 7.55% Kabutops (141) 73 6.98% Chansey (113) 66 6.31% Cloyster (91) 57 5.45% Darmanitan (555) 57 5.45% Rotom Mow (661) 56 5.35% Jellicent (593) 41 3.92% Porygon2 (233) 41 3.92% Weavile (461) 35 3.35% Lucario (448) 27 2.58% Sigilyph (561) 20 1.91% Lanturn (171) 19 1.82% Metagross (376) 19 1.82% Umbreon (197) 17 1.63% Electrode (101) 16 1.53% Ludicolo (272) 16 1.53% Mamoswine (473) 15 1.43% Heracross (214) 14 1.34% Dusclops (356) 13 1.24% Arcanine (59) 12 1.15% Aerodactyl (142) 11 1.05% Snorlax (143) 11 1.05% Alakazam (65) 10 0.96% Torkoal (324) 10 0.96% Seismitoad (537) 9 0.86% Blastoise (9) 8 0.76% Mantine (226) 8 0.76% Bronzong (437) 7 0.67% Crobat (169) 7 0.67% Empoleon (395) 7 0.67% Haxorus (612) 7 0.67% Slowbro (80) 7 0.67% Toxicroak (454) 7 0.67% Venomoth (49) 7 0.67% Charizard (6) 6 0.57% Linoone (264) 6 0.57% Nidoqueen (31) 6 0.57% Staraptor (398) 6 0.57% Venusaur (3) 6 0.57% Ambipom (424) 5 0.48% Bisharp (625) 5 0.48% Donphan (232) 5 0.48% Eelektross (604) 5 0.48% Flygon (330) 5 0.48% Gardevoir (282) 5 0.48% Gigalith (526) 5 0.48% Magneton (82) 5 0.48% Shedinja (292) 5 0.48% Vanilluxe (584) 5 0.48% Forretress (205) 4 0.38% Lilligant (549) 4 0.38% Rhyperior (464) 4 0.38% Scrafty (560) 4 0.38% Archeops (567) 3 0.29% Azumarill (184) 3 0.29% Exeggutor (103) 3 0.29% Gallade (475) 3 0.29% Gligar (207) 3 0.29% Krookodile (553) 3 0.29% Magcargo (219) 3 0.29% Marowak (105) 3 0.29% Medicham (308) 3 0.29% Pikachu (25) 3 0.29% Porygon-Z (474) 3 0.29% Roserade (407) 3 0.29% Sceptile (254) 3 0.29% Smeargle (235) 3 0.29% Torterra (389) 3 0.29% Ursaring (217) 3 0.29% Weezing (110) 3 0.29% Wobbuffet (202) 3 0.29% Yanmega (469) 3 0.29% Rotom Heat (657) 3 0.29% Accelgor (617) 2 0.19% Aggron (306) 2 0.19% Ampharos (181) 2 0.19% Butterfree (12) 2 0.19% Claydol (344) 2 0.19% Drapion (452) 2 0.19% Escavalier (589) 2 0.19% Floatzel (419) 2 0.19% Golem (76) 2 0.19% Hariyama (297) 2 0.19% Hypno (97) 2 0.19% Magmortar (467) 2 0.19% Miltank (241) 2 0.19% Mismagius (429) 2 0.19% Omastar (139) 2 0.19% Quagsire (195) 2 0.19% Rampardos (409) 2 0.19% Shuckle (213) 2 0.19% Slaking (289) 2 0.19% Amoonguss (591) 1 0.10% Cacturne (332) 1 0.10% Dusknoir (477) 1 0.10% Feraligatr (160) 1 0.10% Glaceon (471) 1 0.10% Golbat (42) 1 0.10% Hitmonchan (107) 1 0.10% Honchkrow (430) 1 0.10% Lapras (131) 1 0.10% Leafeon (470) 1 0.10% Meowth (52) 1 0.10% Purugly (432) 1 0.10% Rotom (479) 1 0.10% Sawk (539) 1 0.10% Shiftry (275) 1 0.10% Swellow (277) 1 0.10% Vaporeon (134) 1 0.10% Whimsicott (547) 1 0.10% Zoroark (571) 1 0.10% Rotom Fan (660) 1 0.10% Total Tournament Usage(Both winning and losing teams) Spoiler All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams 12576 2096 Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage Scizor (212) 676 32.25% Hydreigon (635) 658 31.39% Conkeldurr (534) 651 31.06% Blissey (242) 624 29.77% Rotom Wash (658) 549 26.19% Tyranitar (248) 490 23.38% Cofagrigus (563) 369 17.60% Gengar (94) 342 16.32% Reuniclus (579) 320 15.27% Hippowdon (450) 317 15.12% Skarmory (227) 311 14.84% Gliscor (472) 289 13.79% Dragonite (149) 275 13.12% Excadrill (530) 267 12.74% Ferrothorn (598) 266 12.69% Kingdra (230) 254 12.12% Magnezone (462) 253 12.07% Togekiss (468) 252 12.02% Volcarona (637) 248 11.83% Pelipper (279) 247 11.78% Breloom (286) 224 10.69% Tentacruel (73) 214 10.21% Mienshao (620) 212 10.11% Jolteon (135) 208 9.92% Gyarados (130) 206 9.83% Milotic (350) 195 9.30% Salamence (373) 193 9.21% Mandibuzz (630) 191 9.11% Starmie (121) 184 8.78% Infernape (392) 182 8.68% Gastrodon (423) 169 8.06% Chansey (113) 167 7.97% Chandelure (609) 160 7.63% Swampert (260) 157 7.49% Dugtrio (51) 154 7.35% Kabutops (141) 133 6.35% Darmanitan (555) 131 6.25% Cloyster (91) 119 5.68% Rotom Mow (661) 110 5.25% Porygon2 (233) 86 4.10% Jellicent (593) 70 3.34% Weavile (461) 70 3.34% Lucario (448) 68 3.24% Metagross (376) 56 2.67% Electrode (101) 43 2.05% Heracross (214) 41 1.96% Ludicolo (272) 41 1.96% Arcanine (59) 38 1.81% Umbreon (197) 37 1.77% Dusclops (356) 35 1.67% Charizard (6) 34 1.62% Lanturn (171) 34 1.62% Sigilyph (561) 33 1.57% Aerodactyl (142) 30 1.43% Haxorus (612) 29 1.38% Torkoal (324) 25 1.19% Snorlax (143) 24 1.15% Alakazam (65) 23 1.10% Mamoswine (473) 22 1.05% Bronzong (437) 21 1.00% Staraptor (398) 21 1.00% Crobat (169) 20 0.95% Blastoise (9) 19 0.91% Krookodile (553) 19 0.91% Empoleon (395) 18 0.86% Mantine (226) 17 0.81% Venusaur (3) 17 0.81% Seismitoad (537) 16 0.76% Flygon (330) 15 0.72% Forretress (205) 15 0.72% Gigalith (526) 15 0.72% Bisharp (625) 14 0.67% Scrafty (560) 14 0.67% Slowbro (80) 14 0.67% Magneton (82) 13 0.62% Sceptile (254) 13 0.62% Toxicroak (454) 13 0.62% Venomoth (49) 13 0.62% Ambipom (424) 12 0.57% Gardevoir (282) 12 0.57% Lilligant (549) 11 0.52% Medicham (308) 11 0.52% Eelektross (604) 10 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dinofish Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 192-228 (90.5 - 107.5%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO 252 SpA Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 14-17 (6.6 - 8%) -- possibly the worst move ever 0- Atk Rhydon Heat Crash (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roserade: 144-170 (106.6 - 125.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO This is my personal roserade counter. Edited September 28, 2020 by dinofish Link to comment
razimove Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, dinofish said: 252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 192-228 (90.5 - 107.5%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO 252 SpA Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 14-17 (6.6 - 8%) -- possibly the worst move ever 0- Atk Rhydon Heat Crash (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roserade: 144-170 (106.6 - 125.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO This is my personal roserade counter. How's this a counter lmao.252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 192-228 (90.5 - 107.5%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO 252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 192-228 (90.5 - 107.5%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock252 SpA Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 328-388 (154.7 - 183%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 250-296 (117.9 - 139.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 208-252 (98.1 - 118.8%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO 10/10. Edited September 28, 2020 by razimove baited Link to comment
Tawla Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 @Munya we're asking for ban roserade since it dropped NU, dont wait for some UU usage to make it UU, we're playing so much the tier and its really bad in NU, we know much more then you do and it should really get back UU. Zymogen 1 Link to comment
razimove Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Just now, Tawla said: @Munya we're asking for ban roserade since it dropped NU, dont wait for some UU usage to make it UU, we're playing so much the tier and its really bad in NU, we know much more then you do and it should really get back UU. regarding this, I'd legit like to see a TC argument defending Roserade staying in NU and how it affects/affected the meta since dropping down. @gbwead Link to comment
Tawla Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, razimove said: regarding this, I'd legit like to see a TC argument defending Roserade staying in NU and how it affects/affected the meta since dropping down. @gbwead They will just spam a calc roserade vs bronzor, i dont wanna spam bronzor in every match just to counter roserade. Link to comment
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