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1 hour ago, allankhold said:

hiii @Sethsen
I have a cruel doubt this sentence is in fact correct ??? can i know before hatching the egg if it will come shiny ???
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egg(s) are determined to be shiny or not when you receive the egg from the Old man."

Hello. No, you cannot. The egg is just determined to be shiny or not when you receive the egg. That's why people use shiny charms when receiving their eggs during a hunt, and not while hatching them.

 

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On 6/10/2021 at 7:27 PM, Lukitsu said:

Thanks for the guide, it's really helpful and soon will be tried out. 

 

Do you still need translations? Could provide German if needed.

Hello! Thank you for the interest in providing a German translation. However, I have decided to stick to the current languages, but this will perhaps change in future. Thanks again, though!

 

Have a nice day. 

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On 6/13/2020 at 11:00 AM, Seth said:

 

PORTUGUESE VERSION / VERSÃO PORTUGUESA

(Thank you, @HerickJS !!! )    :
 

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1) Shiny Hunting em Hordas(Metodo mais fácil e rápido)

Como já foi dito antes, Caçar shinies em Hordas é o jeito mais efetivo, como já foi mencionado antes:

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O melhor(E mais rápido) jeito de aumentar suas chances de encontrar um shiny em relação a Shiny Hunting é usando o golpe Doce Aroma (1791728986_ScreenShot2020-05-31at23_16_42.png.8ba97567164d4a2ea463a7b0aba8bb46.png) para Invocar Hordas. Doce Aroma pode ser usado quase que em todo lugar(Grama, Água, Chão e etc.) Para invocar uma horda de Pokémon(2,3 e até 5 Pokémon ao mesmo tempo). De fato, quando você encontra uma horda, cada um dos(2, 3 ou 5) Pokémons encontrados tem uma chance única de serem shinies (1/30000 por Pokémon). Em teoria, Isso significa que quando você encontra uma horda de 2, 3 ou 5 Pokémons, suas chances seriam aumentadas de 2/30000 para 1/15000 (2 Pokémon), 3/30000 para 1/10000 (3 Pokémon) ou aproximadamente 5/30000 para 1/6000 (5 Pokémon) de que um dos pokémons seja shiny.

"Quais são os pokémon mais comum que tem Sweet Scent?" Você pode perguntar.

Os mais comuns são smeargle.gif[Smeargle] ou teddiursa.gif[Teddiursa] , mas qualquer pokémon que possa aprender como  oddish.gif [Oddish], bulbasaur.gif[Bulbasaur] , etc. São úteis também. Fato bônus: Você pode obter 2 usos de Sweet Scent adicionais se você usar PP Max no Sweet Scent do seu Pokémon.

Lembre-Se! Você NÃO pode acumular Sweet Scents tendo vários pokémons com o golpe na sua Equipe, Isso significa que você só pode utilizar até no máximo 6 Sweet Scents(Com PP Max) antes que você tenha que curar os PPs em um Centro Pokémon, Mesmo que você tenha, digamos 5-6 Pokémons com Sweet scent em sua Equipe.

 

Como Fazer um atalho para o Sweet Scent:

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1) Abra O sumário de seu Pokémon na lista de golpes:

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2 ) Pressione o icone da estrela perto do Sweet Scent:

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3 ) Você agora pode escolher em qual Slot você quer reservar o Sweet Scent

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4 ) Você agora pode ver que o Sweet Scent faz parte Dos seus slots de Atalhos (Eu Escolhi o segundo slot como você pode ver na imagem) Então, Você poderá facilmente usa-lo daqui em diante quando você tiver um pokémon em sua equipe que tenha esse golpe.

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Bonus: Você pode também mudar qual botão do teclado ativa o Sweet Scent pelas Configurações do jogo caso você não goste de ficar clicando nele toda hora.

 

Isso é baseado no fato que você pode ter muito mais encontros por hora comparado a um metodo como Caçar de maneira Singular. Se você for dedicado, Tenha seu Sweet scent e Bag_Leppa_Berry_Sprite.png.deb9e7ef1f0e8fbef9493e98f8005afe.png Leppa Berries registrados nos Atalhos. Desse jeito eu tenho certeza que um Caçador consegue obter aproximadamente 900-1000 Encontros (180-200 hordas de 5 Pokémon) por Hora, já que 1 Bag_Leppa_Berry_Sprite.png.deb9e7ef1f0e8fbef9493e98f8005afe.png Leppa Berry é igual a encontrar duas Hordas (Que iguala 10 Encontros em Hordas de 5 Pokémon.)

 

Bag_Leppa_Berry_Sprite.png.deb9e7ef1f0e8fbef9493e98f8005afe.png Leppa Berry: O melhor conselho para caçar em hordas é usar Bag_Leppa_Berry_Sprite.png.deb9e7ef1f0e8fbef9493e98f8005afe.png Leppa berries para restaurar o PP do Sweet Scent em vez de curar no centro toda vez que você ficar sem PP. Se você pensa em salvar dinheiro, eu sugiro que você plante as Berries você mesmo, (Elas precisam de 1 Semente muito apimentada, 1 Semente Amarga e 1 Semente Doce).

Ilustração: Exemplo em video será postado em breve.

 

2) Shiny Hunting por encontros Singulares (Para Raros)

O titulo diz tudo. Você basicamente caça em Encontros individuais e torce para que ganhe na loteria do shiny:

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Pessoas usam esse método quando estão procurando Shinies Raros que não podem ser encontrados por meio de hordas; Por exemplo, Pokémons Iniciais, Pokémons Pseudo-Lendários e outros tipos de Raros. (Por exemplo  qlCg9Sz.gif[Rotom] o  WSg0dA2.gif[Lapras]). A unica desvantagem desse método é que você corre o risco de encontrar um pokémon comum no lugar do raro caso ele também seja encontrado no lugar em que o raro está.

 

Você pode também usar um pokémon com a habilidade Illuminate em sua equipe para aumentar a chance de encontrar Pokémon Selvagens, que proporcionalmente devem aumentar suas chances de um shiny.

 

É um método mais rápido e barato, porém muito mais perigoso que Rachar Ovos. Nenhuma ilustração é necessária.

 

Caça com Fósseis:

Esse método também pode ser visto como uma Caça Singular. Você basicamente Farma fósseis (Pode ser um complemento de Rachar Ovos ou não) e os traz de volta a vida. A chance de achar um shiny assim é a mesma que caçar em Encontros Individuais. Você pode farmar fósseis usando o HM Rock Smash e sumonando pokémons dessa maneira, após isso use Thief para roubar o item que eles podem possivelmente estar segurando. Você obtem os seguintes fósseis dependendo da região em que está:

 

  • Kanto: Dome Fossil (Kabuto), Helix Fossil (Omanyte) e Old Amber (Aerodactyl)
  • Hoenn: Root Fossil (Lileep) e Claw Fossil (Anorith)
  • Unova: Plume Fossil (Archen) e Cover Fossil (Tirtouga)
  • Sinnoh: Skull Fossil (Cranidos) e Armor Fossil (Shieldon)

 

 

3) Shiny hunting Por Egg Hunting(Rachar Ovos) - Para raros e eliminando a possibilidade de encontrar um shiny comum

Rachar ovos é o melhor jeito caso você queira caçar Shinies raros como Iniciais, Pokémon de Fósseis ou outros raros sem ter a possibilidade de encontrar um Shiny comum no lugar:

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Aqui, você focará completamente no pokémon que você está Caçando. É um método muito caro porque você tem que comprar muitos Breeders (Na maior parte Dittos) Para continuar gerando mais ovos. Você pode reduzir o preço um pouco usando Breeders machos do mesmo Egg Group do seu alvo, sempre que seu ovo conter uma fêmea. De fato, existem diversas maneiras de se caçar shinies com Ovos:

 

1. 1-3 Caixas no total: Talvez o jeito mais comum seja coletar 1-3 Caixas do seu pokémon alvo para cruzar todos eles em Ovos (Com ou sem a utilização de um 1415472051_ScreenShot2020-05-31at22_41_24.png.2004af1078acf8d35df5c48c685b8ce2.png Encantamento de Shiny(+10%)) Antes que você comece a breedar todos eles. Lembre-se que os ovos vão ser determinados Shinies ou não a partir do momento que você os recebe do Velho do Daycare.

 

2. Cinco pokémons no total: Outro metodo (O método que eu usei para meu Totodile) foi capturar apenas 5 Pokémons da espécie de seu alvo e cruza-lo várias e várias vezes. Eu escolhi esse método porque eu não quis caçar mais de 120 Totodiles na zona do Safari porque isso consome muito tempo. No lugar disso, Eu preferi usar apenas 5 pokémons, o que também me deixou fácilmente botar 2069900101_ScreenShot2020-06-01at19_25_49.png.9624eacbbfcfc034531b30465635a7b7.png particulas do Pumpkid nos meus alvos antes de iniciar a Caçada. Eu fiz isso porque eu sabia que seria basicamente impossível botar a partícula no meu alvo assim que ele Nascesse shiny.

  • Particulas são apenas um jeito extra de se exibir - Especialmente as limitadas. Elas podem ser passadas dos pais para os Ovos.

 

Perguntas Frequentes Sobre Egg Hunting:

 

"O shiny sempre terá minha OT?"

Sim, se você breedar seu Alvo Macho com um CuCW9nx.gif Ditto não OT, Seu shiny sempre irá nascer com sua OT. Também, Se seu alvo nascer Fêmea e tiver sua OT, e você breedar com um macho do mesmo egg group ou com um Ditto, O resultado sempre terá sua OT.

 

"Como eu evito o OT*?"

Você simplesmente deve capturar os Alvos você mesmo. Você deve fazer isso caso planeje Breedar novamente seu Alvo Shiny, Já que Breedar ele novamente com uma OT* Causará o Unknown OT.

 

"Posso Breedar Egg Moves(Golpes de Ovo) ou Partículas no meu Alvo sem estragar minha RNG?"

Sim, Absolutamente. Eu breedei ambos Golpes de Ovo e Partículas no meu Totodile antes de iniciar a Hunt, E consegui o shiny do mesmo jeito.

 

"Quanto me custará breedar um Shiny?"

Pode ser o melhor investindo da sua vida, ou você gastará MILHÕES. Na média, Um CuCW9nx.gif ditto custa 3,000 cada (180k por uma box) e se arredondarmos isso para 30,000 Ovos (A chance de Shiny Padrão) Vai te custar 90,000,000 Pokéyen - E não é nem uma garantia que você irá conseguir o shiny. Você também deve considerar o preço das pokébolas dos 30,000 Ovos, Que iguala um investimento de 6,000,000 Pokéyen.

 

"Tem alguma maneira de reduzir o custo de uma Egg Hunt?"16468485_ScreenShot2020-06-01at13_03_31.png.636f051bd3de5e437630f147eedccee3.png

Você pode fazer isso usando Breeders Machos da Mesma 16468485_ScreenShot2020-06-01at13_03_31.png.636f051bd3de5e437630f147eedccee3.png egg group de seu alvo. (Claro que você não pode fazer isso caso esteja procurando um Shiny Sem Gênero). Inclusive, Se você for atrás de um Pokémon Inicial, Você vai estatisticamente Obter um pokémon Femea em Um a cada Sete Breeds (1/7), Significando que você gastaria "Apenas" aproximadamente 82,285,714 Pokéyen em vez de 90,000,000 quando você Rachar 30000 Ovos:
Equação: (30000*(7/8)*3000) + (30000*(1/8)*1200) = 83,250,000 
onde 7/8 é a chance de um macho e 1/8 é a chance de uma fêmea. Também, 3000 É o preço padrão de um Ditto enquanto 1200 é o Preço padrão de um breeder Macho.

 

"Como eu conto a quantidade de Ovos que eu tenho?"

Quando for rachar ovos, Eu sugiro meu próprio método que é quando você compra 1,000 Pokébolas por ciclo. Desse jeito, Eu fui capaz de acompanhar meu progresso, que foi 26,502 Ovos antes que meu Totodile decidisse brilhar. Eu só fui capaz de fazer isso contando as pokébolas que eu usei.

 

"Posso transformar meu Shiny Breedado em um pokémon Competitivo?"

Sim, Definitivamente. De fato, É mais fácil(Não barato) breedar Shinies Competitivos que Breeds normais já que a maneira que os Ivs de uma Criança Shiny age de maneira diferente:
4 Ivs Aleatórios são passados diretamente dos parentes para a Criança. Desses 4, 2 sempre serão o maior valor possível e 2 poderão ser escolhidos por Braces.
Os 2 Ivs que sobram são Arredondados entre ambos os parentes.

 

Dica Extra para sua hunt: O Ticket de Doador e as habilidades Flame Body/Magma Armor (Slugma,Volcarona,Magmar etc.) São muito importantes para essa Caça já que você poderá rachar muito mais ovos por hora comparado a não incluir essas coisas na sua Hunt. Também, Eu recomendo fortemente que o Egg Hunting aconteça em Unova (!!!) Já que você Conseguirá fazer mais ovos por dia devido a distância do Pc com o Velho do Daycare.

 

 

4) Shiny hunting Na Zona do Safari

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não faça

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am only reacting to the translation of the guide in Portuguese, I believe that no translation to English will be necessary. Anyone who is in the EN/ES/CN chat, and is reading this, help by posting the information I can put, in their respective language, if no one has done it yet.

Eu quero comentar sobre algumas dicas em relação aos topicos:

Single Hunt:
Horde Hunt:
Egg Hunt:

Hunt por Encontros Singulares
 

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Para single hunt, dependerá muito do tipo de procura que fará.

Para procuras aonde o nivel do pokémon que deseja, é maior que o nivel dos demais que apareçem, pode usar o Repel Trick(Pokemon com o Level desejado + Repel)
(exemplo: Você quer procurar num local X um pokemon que costuma apareçer no nivel 50, mas podem apareçer outros pokemons de nivel 42-45 no maximo. Então use o Repel e deixe em primeiro na Equipe o pokemon com nivel entre 46 e 49, que será o bastante para repelir todos os outros pokemons, e manter o que você deseja apareçer, ainda com chances.)

Para Hunt de Pescas, é recomendado que no Primeiro Slot da sua Equipe tenha um pokemon com Suction Cups.
Caso seja Feebas, sempre fique perto do rio e espere acharem um Spot, lembra que eles mudam a cada 45 minutos mais ou menos. E caso queira avoidar outros shinys, repel, vá ao Spot e use o truque do Suction Cups.

Hunt por Encontros em Horda
 

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O recomendado aqui é usar Pokémons com Pickup + Algum move em Area, preferencialmente com 100% accuracy. Porque? Bem, esse tipo de hunt é muito cara por consumir bastante Leppa Berry. Então, você pode usar esse pokemon pra ir matando as hordas e ir upando outros pokemons, seja upando um pokemon de outra pessoa ou upando um seu para vender, ou coletando itens com pickup, para ir vender no PokéMart. É uma hunt mais lenta? é. Porem, dificilmente você vai precisar parar para Farmar dinheiro e comprar mais leppa berrys, visto que terá a grana dos Pokémons que você upou e a Grana dos itens coletados(Apos vender no Pokémart) para comprar mais.

Hunt por Ovos.
 

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Aqui, a dica é olhar a Bulbapedia, e conferir o Gender Rate do pokemon que deseja huntar, antes de começar. Porque? Alguns pokemons são Gender-Locked, ou Generos Fixos, eles sempre nascerão no mesmo genero. Se a especie for Gender Locked Femea(Todos os ovos gerarão descendentes femeas), Como Chansey e Kangaskhan, então não faça a burrada de comprar ditto para essas hunts, afinal você pode comprar pokémons Machos do mesmo Egg Group, para fazer os breeds.

Vale Ressaltar que com os updates recentes, caso você tenha a especie do filho na Dex como Capturado OT, o filho vem com a OT(Exemplo: Se você breedar uma Blissey sem sua OT, com um Macho do mesmo Egg Group, com ou sem sua OT, e assumindo que a blissey não terá o incenso que gera uma Happiny, o Ovo virá de Chansey. Se você, antes de breedar, já tiver uma chansey com sua OT na pokédex, vira a Chansey com OT. Caso contrario, vira a chansey com a OT* .)

 

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  • Seth changed the title to PokeMMO Shiny Hunting Guide (2022) (EN/CN/ES/PT) + New Secret Shiny section

Hello everyone! Information about the new secret shiny feature has been added. Thanks to @DamianTe for already writing a nice summary of the whole thing, so all credits to him. I will add illustrations of the new animation as soon as it is completed. 

 

As always, if you have any feedback please do not hesitate to let me know. 

 

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secret_shiny_particle.png.11a9039aa8014d4afbd7e50a542b631c.png Secret Shiny Pokémon has been introduced to PokeMMO! secret_shiny_particle.png.11a9039aa8014d4afbd7e50a542b631c.png

 

In the update Changelog: 08/06/2022: PokeMMO's 10th Anniversary, Part 1 (link), a new species of Shiny Pokémon was introduced: Secret Shiny Pokémon secret_shiny_particle.png.11a9039aa8014d4afbd7e50a542b631c.png 

@DamianTe has already written a nice summary of the new feature, which I have decided to include in this guide: 

 

- What is a Secret Shiny?
A Secret Shiny is a rare shiny particle variant. Secret Shinies appear the same as normal shinies but with a different particle effect. This particle effect replaces the normal shiny particle; you can't have a pokemon with both the Secret and normal Shiny particle.

 

- How do I get a Secret Shiny?
Secret Shinies only appear in single encounters or naturally-occurring hordes (not in hordes summoned by Sweet Scent and not via breeding). When you encounter a shiny pokemon, there is a 1/16 chance that it is a Secret Shiny instead of a normal shiny.

 

- Does Donator Status/Shiny Charm affect the chance of a Secret Shiny?
No.

 

- What happens if I breed a Secret Shiny?
You can breed Secret Shinies with normal Shinies and the Secret Shiny particle will be passed on to the baby. Remember though that you cannot have both the normal and Secret Shiny particle on the same pokemon.

 

Illustrations of animation will be added as soon as possible. 

 

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11 minutes ago, MirkoPC said:

Hola, cuantas cajas me recomiendan que haga al día y muy buena guía gracias ^^

 

Primero, para publicar algo en el foro debes agregar una traducción al ingles. Creo que 10 cajas al día están bien. Eso serían 4,700 huevos por semana, yo personalmente no te recomendaría buscar shiny de esta manera si no tienes minimo 100m para invertirlos, sin más, suerte en tu búsqueda!!!

 

First, to post something on the forum you must add an English translation. I think 10 boxes a day is fine. That would be 4,700 eggs per week, I personally would not recommend looking for shiny this way if you don't have a minimum of 100m to invest, without further ado, good luck in your search!!!

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  • Seth changed the title to PokeMMO Shiny Hunting Guide (2023) (EN/CN/ES/PT)
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Hi Seth, 

 

First, Thanks for the guide, it's very helpful to everone. 

 

Second, this calculation is not accurate. Assume, the chance to shiny is 1/2. Therefore, according this calculation, the chance to shiny for 5 hord is 5/2.

5/2 is bigger than 1 and it is not possible.

The calculation should be based on Binomial theory. 

Exmaple - 5 hord - (5nCr1)*(1/30000)*(1-1/30000)^4

 

The link at the end is broken/unaccesible.

 

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In theory, this means that when you encounter a horde of either 2x Pokémon, 3x Pokémon or 5x Pokémon, your chances would be increased to 2/30000 equal to 1/15000 (2x horde), 3/30000 equal to 1/10000 (3x horde) or approximately 5/30000 equal to 1/6000 (5x horde) that one of the Pokémon will be shiny. You can see Desu (PokeMMO Developer) comment about it here.


 

I tried to send you private message but your inbox is full 😞

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I have to disprove the Binomial Theory of shunting

 

 

 

as technically you can have 2 or more shinies in a horde and so the repetition of results is always there.

 

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for that, basic permutation with repetition: If you encountered one shiny, the basic formula is [number of probabiities] raised to [number of results]: n^r = 30000^1

 

for two: 30000^2 = 9 x 10^8

 

 

and if 5 shinies, which is virtually impossible but technically possible: 30000^5 = 2.43E22

 

 

 

 

"but why the common shinies are hordes?" because we got 5 x 1 result of 30000-faced dice to roll. 

 

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  • Seth changed the title to PokeMMO Shiny Hunting Guide (2024) (EN/CN/ES/PT) (Released in 2020)
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On 6/13/2020 at 8:59 AM, Seth said:

This guide is written in English

CLICK HERE (<- Español y/o Portugues).

中文翻译 (Chinese translation)

 

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Hello PokeMMO Shiny Hunter \o/

I have been considering writing a shiny hunting guide for a while as there is no detailed one out there.

In addition, I thought it would be the perfect time to create a shiny hunting guide due to my blessed RNG in 2020 (link).

 

 

 

What will you gain and learn from reading this guide?

Firstly, this guide will contain a shiny hunt introduction that will provide you with basic knowledge about the PokeMMO shiny rates and possible modifications that can increase your odds of finding a shiny. In addition, I will also introduce you to the use of Sweet Scent and the nerdy aspect of binomial distribution calculation of shiny hunting.

Secondly, I have added a short section about the most common methods  in the aspect of PokeMMO shiny hunting (horde hunting, single encounters, egg hatching and hunting in the Safari Zone).

Furthermore, I have added a short section about helpful shiny hunting tools that can benefit you throughout your hunt, including an Encounter Counter and a HD Sprite shiny mod.

Lastly (for now), a section with useful website links and guides that are useful or interesting for your shiny hunting.

In summary, I will humbly teach you all about shiny hunting in PokeMMO. 

 

Are you looking for inspiration about what to hunt?

If you are looking for ideas about what to hunt, I recommend looking in one of my best Pokébud's detailed 2020 All Horde Locations - EV and Shiny guide. You can find every horde location in that guide - and it can provide you with interesting and alternative EV training spots if you feel like avoiding that shiny Tentacruel. 

 

 


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As an introduction, Shiny Pokémon can be met anywhere in the wild (or from eggs). Known methods from the original games such as Mesuda and chain fishing are NOT implemented in PokeMMO, and thus you will have to settle with the set shiny rate in PokeMMO. 

 

In fact, we all know that the shiny rate in PokeMMO is 1/30000, which can be modified to 1/27000 with Donator Status or approximately 1/24300 with Donator Status + 1415472051_ScreenShot2020-05-31at22_41_24.png.2004af1078acf8d35df5c48c685b8ce2.png Shiny Charm (+10%) and so on:

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Standard PokeMMO Shiny Rate: 1/30000

 

With Donator Status (+10%): 1/27000

With Donator status (+10%) + Shiny Charm (+10%): Approximately 1/24300

With Donator status (+10%) + Linking up Shiny Charm (+5%): Approximately 1/25650

 

Without Donator status (+0%) + Shiny Charm (+10%): 1/27000

Without Donator status (+0%) + Linking up Shiny Charm (+5%): 1/28500

 

1415472051_ScreenShot2020-05-31at22_41_24.png.2004af1078acf8d35df5c48c685b8ce2.png   SHINY CHARMS DO NOT STACK TOGETHER   1415472051_ScreenShot2020-05-31at22_41_24.png.2004af1078acf8d35df5c48c685b8ce2.png 

So if you were to use a 1415472051_ScreenShot2020-05-31at22_41_24.png.2004af1078acf8d35df5c48c685b8ce2.png Shiny Charm (+10%) while linking up with a friend that is already using a 1415472051_ScreenShot2020-05-31at22_41_24.png.2004af1078acf8d35df5c48c685b8ce2.png Shiny Charm (+10%), you both only get 10% boost. 

In summary, this means that you, for each encounter/hatch of one Pokémon, will have a chance of either 1/30000, 1/28500, 1/27000, 1/25650 or 1/24300 to encounter/hatch a shiny depending on the active modification of your account (see above-shown Spoiler section). This includes all sort of encounters, including wild encounters, 16468485_ScreenShot2020-06-01at13_03_31.png.636f051bd3de5e437630f147eedccee3.png egg hatching, swarm encounter and fossil reviving etc.

 

In addition, it is NOT possible to breed non shiny Pokémon with a Shiny Pokémon:

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The Old man breeder will tell you one of your Pokémon seem special and that you should hold onto it IF you try to breed a shiny with a non-shiny Pokémon. This is implemented as it wouldn't be balanced if people would try to get a rare shiny such as Charmander by breeding that with a common shiny from the same egg group. It could potentially cause an inflation and ruin the market. Thus, it is ONLY possible to breed a Shiny Pokémon with a Shiny Pokémon in PokeMMO - If both parents are Shiny, the child will now always be Shiny (and hatch as the same species as the female parent).

 

Important to remember: There is no stacking of encounters in PokeMMO

The system doesn't track your encounters. This means that even if you are at your FIRST encounter or your 123456th encounter, the chance is still either 1/30000, 1/27000 etc. If you want your shiny, you have to be dedicated and patient. Whenever a shiny Pokémon appears it will appear with its alternative color, a sparkle and with "Shiny" in front of its name:

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Horde encounter

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Single encounter

 

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Illustration of shiny encounter (thanks to @Fixedgaming)
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Interested in more nerdiness about shiny hunting?

If we are looking at the above-mentioned in addition to considering a binomial distribution, you can roughly estimate your shiny percentage chance (X = %) based on your encounter amount (Y): 

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Binomial distribution of shiny hunting in PokeMMO.

In summary, this shows the odds of finding a shiny (in percentage) based on the amount of encounters you have (based on a binomial distribution (X = 1-(1-(shiny_rate_in_numbers))(amount_of_encounters))).For instance, you will have a 67.08% (with donator) or 63.21% (without donator) to encounter/hatch a shiny within 30000 encounters based on this estimation. In addition, a binomial distribution estimates that 50% of the player base should find their shiny by 20979 encounters (in a population sample with 1/30000 shiny rate) or 18712 encounters (in a population sample with 1/27000 shiny rate).
Another interesting read into the table shows that even at 300,000 encounters, there is no guarantee that you meet a shiny (99.995% that you should have met a shiny by 300,000 encounters with a 1/30000 rate) - but that is in the extreme coincidences.

 

 

The best way to increase your chances of finding a Shiny Pokémon:

The best (and fastest) way to increase your chances in regards of shiny hunting is using the Sweet Scent move (1791728986_ScreenShot2020-05-31at23_16_42.png.8ba97567164d4a2ea463a7b0aba8bb46.png) to encounter hordes. Sweet Scent can be used almost anywhere (grass, water, ground etc.) to bring forward a horde of Pokémon (2x, 3x or even 5x Pokémon at the same time). In fact, when you encounter a Pokémon horde, each of the (2x, 3x or 5x) encountered Pokémon will have their own chance to be shiny (1/30000 per Pokémon). In theory (based on a binomial considerations), this means that when you encounter a horde of either 2x Pokémon, 3x Pokémon or 5x Pokémon, your chances would be increased to approximately (~) 2/30000 equal to ~1/15000 (2x horde), ~3/30000 equal to 1/10000 (3x horde) or approximately ~5/30000 equal to ~1/6000 (5x horde) that one of the Pokémon will be shiny. You can see Desu (PokeMMO Developer) comment about it here. Another fact in the aspect of Pokémon hordes is the fact that there are no limitations as to the amount of shinies per horde (example).

 

In 2016, Desu also stated some interesting facts (in a post) in regards of shiny hunting that are interesting to know for any shiny hunter:

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Shinies and you: An informative PSA

 

While there's nothing to say that hasn't already been said in some form or another, here's a few important facts that keep being distorted.

  • Aside from Donator Status, there are no significant ways in which players can boost their shiny rates.
  • New players do not have a better chance than older.
  • Most importantly RNG is RNG, there is no guarantee to get a shiny in 100,000,000,000 encounters. Each encounter is a new RNG roll, independent of any previous.
  • Statistical outliers will exist in both extremes.
  • For every new player who gets a shiny, many thousand more do not.
  • Encountering lots of things, like using Hordes, is still the most effective way to encounter a shiny.

 

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In the update Changelog: 08/06/2022: PokeMMO's 10th Anniversary, Part 1 (link), a new species of Shiny Pokémon was introduced: Secret Shiny Pokémon secret_shiny_particle.png.11a9039aa8014d4afbd7e50a542b631c.png 

@DamianTe has already written a nice summary of the new feature, which I have decided to include in this guide (open spoiler section): 

 

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- What is a Secret Shiny?
A Secret Shiny is a rare shiny particle variant. Secret Shinies appear the same as normal shinies but with a different particle effect. This particle effect replaces the normal shiny particle; you can't have a pokemon with both the Secret and normal Shiny particle.

 

- How do I get a Secret Shiny?
Secret Shinies only appear in single encounters or naturally-occurring hordes (not in hordes summoned by Sweet Scent and not via breeding). When you encounter a shiny pokemon, there is a 1/16 chance that it is a Secret Shiny instead of a normal shiny.

 

- Does Donator Status/Shiny Charm affect the chance of a Secret Shiny?
No.

 

- What happens if I breed a Secret Shiny?
You can breed Secret Shinies with normal Shinies and the Secret Shiny particle will be passed on to the baby. Remember though that you cannot have both the normal and Secret Shiny particle on the same pokemon.

 

Illustrations of animation will be added as soon as possible. 

 

 

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When it comes to shiny hunting, there are a number of methods that you can use, including 1) encountering Pokémon hordes using Sweet Scent (move), 2) single encounters3) 16468485_ScreenShot2020-06-01at13_03_31.png.636f051bd3de5e437630f147eedccee3.png egg hatching and 4) in the Safari Zone:

 

1) Shiny Hunting via hordes (best and fastest method)

As a matter of fact, hunting shiny Pokémon via hordes is the best and fastest method as mentioned before:

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The best (and fastest) way to increase your chances in regards of shiny hunting is using the Sweet Scent move (1791728986_ScreenShot2020-05-31at23_16_42.png.8ba97567164d4a2ea463a7b0aba8bb46.png). Sweet Scent can be used almost anywhere (grass, water, ground etc.) to bring forward a horde of Pokémon (2x, 3x or even 5x Pokémon at the same time). In fact, when you encounter a Pokémon horde, each of the (2x, 3x or 5x) encountered Pokémon will have their own chance to be shiny (1/30000 per Pokémon). In theory, this means that when you encounter a horde of either 2x Pokémon, 3x Pokémon or 5x Pokémon, your chances would be increased to 1/15000 (2x horde), 1/10000 (3x horde) or approximately 1/6000 (5x horde) that one of the Pokémon will be shiny.

"What are the most common Sweet Scent Pokémon?" you might ask:

The most common Sweet Scent Pokémon are smeargle.gif[Smeargle] or teddiursa.gif[Teddiursa] - but any Pokémon that can learn it like oddish.gif [Oddish], bulbasaur.gif[Bulbasaur] etc. are also useful. Bonus fact: You get an additional 2 Sweet Scent uses if you decide to use PP Max on your Sweet Scent Pokémon.

Remember! You CANNOT stack Sweet Scent Pokémon in your party, meaning that you can only use Sweet Scent 6 times (PP Max'ed) before you have to heal up again - even though, you have let's say 5-6 Pokémon knowing Sweet Scent in your party. 

 

How to hotkey Sweet Scent:

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1) Open the Pokémon Summary page for your particular Sweet Scent Pokémon and click on the move tab:

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2) Press the star icon next to Sweet Scent:

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3) You can now pick which hotkey slot you want reserved for Sweet Scent

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4) You can now see Sweet Scent as part of your hotkey tab (I chose second slot as you can see in the picture). Thus, you will be able to use it easily whenever you have a Pokémon in your party that knows Sweet Scent.

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Bonus tip: Also, you can change what keyboard button that activates Sweet Scent via your settings if you don't feel like mouse clicking for every horde (PC use).

 

This is based on the fact that you get many more encounters per hour compared to a method like single encounter hunting. If you are dedicated, have your Sweet Scent (move) and Bag_Leppa_Berry_Sprite.png.deb9e7ef1f0e8fbef9493e98f8005afe.png Leppa berries hotkey'ed (2134439641_ScreenShot2020-05-31at23_19_04.png.4216bc6ec5c035641a42aee7c0461ba6.png), then I am certain a hunter can get approximately 900-1000 encounters (180-200 5x hordes) an hour, as 1 Bag_Leppa_Berry_Sprite.png.deb9e7ef1f0e8fbef9493e98f8005afe.png Leppa Berry equals encountering two hordes (which equals to 10 encounters in 5x Pokémon hordes). 

 

  • Bag_Leppa_Berry_Sprite.png.deb9e7ef1f0e8fbef9493e98f8005afe.png Leppa Berry: The best advice for horde hunting is using Bag_Leppa_Berry_Sprite.png.deb9e7ef1f0e8fbef9493e98f8005afe.png Leppa berries to restore the PP of Sweet Scent instead of running back and forth to the PC to heal up. If you ever plan to save money, I suggest that you plant the berries yourself (they require 1x Very Spicy Seed, 1x Plain Bitter Seed and 1x Plain Sweet Seed). 

 

Illustration:

Video example will be posted shortly.

 

2) Shiny Hunting via single encounters (for rares)

Title says it. You basically hunt single encounters and hope you hit jackpot with the set shiny rate:

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People use this method when they are hunting rare Pokémon that you cannot find via hordes; for example, Starter Pokémon, Pseudo-legendary Pokémon or other rares (for example  qlCg9Sz.gif[Rotom] and  WSg0dA2.gif[Lapras]). The only disadvantage about this method is the fact that you risk encountering a common Shiny Pokémon in the progress if this Pokémon shares the spot with your target. 

You could also hold a Pokémon with the Illuminate ability in your party to increase the number of wild encounters - which (proportionally) should boost your chances.

 

It's a faster, cheaper but a lot riskier method than egg hatching. Really no illustration is required.

 

Fossil hunting: This one can also be seen as a single encounter hunt. You basically farm fossils (could be in addition to egg hatching or not) and you bring them to life. The chance of getting a shiny is the same rate as in single encounters. You can farm the fossils from Rock Smash by using Thief (or other methods) on encountered rock Pokémon. You get the particular fossils in the respective regions they were discovered:

  • Kanto: Dome Fossil (Kabuto), Helix Fossil (Omanyte) and Old Amber (Aerodactyl)
  • Hoenn: Root Fossil (Lileep) and Claw Fossil (Anorith)
  • Unova: Plume Fossil (Archen) and Cover Fossil (Tirtouga) 
  • Sinnoh: Skull Fossil (Cranidos) and Armor Fossil (Shieldon)

 

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Egg hatching is the go-to method if you want to hunt rare Starter Pokémon, Fossil Pokémon or other rares without risking the possibility of encountering a common Shiny Pokémon in the progress of your hunt:

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Here, you are completely focusing on the Pokémon(s) you are hunting. It is a money consuming method as you have to continuously buy breeders (mainly CuCW9nx.gifDitto(s)) in order to keep your egg hatching train running. You can reduce the cost a bit by using male breeders from the same 16468485_ScreenShot2020-06-01at13_03_31.png.636f051bd3de5e437630f147eedccee3.png egg group (as your target) whenever your egg hatched as a female. In fact, there are different ways to shiny hunt by egg hatching:

 

  1. 1-3 boxes in total: Maybe the most common method is to gather 1-3 boxes of your target Pokémon and breed all these into eggs (with or without  1415472051_ScreenShot2020-05-31at22_41_24.png.2004af1078acf8d35df5c48c685b8ce2.png Shiny Charm (+10%)) before you start hatching them all. Remember that the 16468485_ScreenShot2020-06-01at13_03_31.png.636f051bd3de5e437630f147eedccee3.png egg(s) are determined to be shiny or not when you receive the egg from the Old man.
     
  2. Five Pokémon in total: Another method (the one I used for my Totodile) was only catching five of your target Pokémon and continuously breed and hatch these. I chose this method as I didn't want to hunt 120+ Totodile(s) in the Safari Zone as that itself was very time consuming. Instead, I settled with the 5 Pokémon, which also allowed me to easily breed egg moves and the 2069900101_ScreenShot2020-06-01at19_25_49.png.9624eacbbfcfc034531b30465635a7b7.png Pumpkid's Treat Particle into my targets before initiating the hunt. I did this as I knew it would be nearly impossible to get the particle into my target once it hatched as a shiny. 
  • Particles are just an extra flex on your shiny - especially time limited particles. These can be bred from parents into the eggs. 

 

 

FAQs about shiny hunt egg hatching:

 

"Will the shiny hatch have my OT?"

Yes, if you breed your target male OT with a non-OT CuCW9nx.gifDitto, your shiny will hatch with your OT. In addition, if your target is female and have your OT, and you breed it with a male or a Ditto, the hatch will also have your OT.

 

"How do I avoid that OT*?"

You simply avoid OT* by catching the targets to get that OT. You should do this if you plan to rebreed your shiny hatch, as rebreeding a OT* will cause Unknown OT.

 

"Can I breed egg moves and/or particles into my targets without messing with my RNG?"

Yes, absolutely no worries about that. I bred both egg moves and the Pumpkid's Treat Particle into my Totodile(s) before I initiated my hunt, and I got the shiny.

 

"How much will it cost me to hatch a shiny?"

It can the best investment of your life or you will spend MILLIONS. In average, a CuCW9nx.gif Ditto cost 3000 a piece (180k per box) and if we round this up to 30000 eggs (the shiny rate), it will cost you 90,000,000 Pokéyen - and it is not even a guarantee that you hatch the egg. You also gotta consider expense of the Poké Ball(s) as 30000 eggs equal an expense of 6,000,000 Pokéyen.

 

"Is there any way to reduce the expense of an egg hunt?"

You can do that by also using male breeders from the same 16468485_ScreenShot2020-06-01at13_03_31.png.636f051bd3de5e437630f147eedccee3.png egg group as your target (you can of course not do this if you go for genderless targets). In fact, if you go for a starter Pokémon, you will (statistically) get female hatches in 1/8 of the time, meaning you would "only" spend approximately 82,285,714 Pokéyen instead of 90,000,000 when you have hatched 30000 eggs:

Equation: (30000*(7/8)*3000)+(30000*(1/8)*1200) = 83,250,000 

where 7/8 is the male ratio and 1/8 is the female ratio. In addition, 3000 equals the average Ditto price while 1200 equals the average male breeder price.

 

"How do I count the amount of eggs that I have?"

When hatching eggs, I suggest my own method where you buy 1,000 Poké Ball(s) per cycle. That way, I was able to keep track of my hatched egg amount, which was 26,502 eggs before it decided to shine. I was only able to do this by counting the Poké Balls I used. 

"Can I breed my shiny hatch into a comp?"

Yes, definitely. In fact, it is easier (of course not cheaper) to breed shiny comps than regular breeds as the shiny child's IV inheritance behaves differently:
4 random IVs are passed directly from the parents to the child. Of these 4, 2 will always be the highest possible value and 2 may be chosen by Braces.
Remaining 2 IVs are averaged.

 

Extra tip to your egg hunt: Donator status and Flame Body/Magma Armor ability (Slugma, Volcarona, Magmar etc.) are very important for this hunt as you will hatch many more eggs per hour compared in comparison to not including these during your hunt. In addition, I highly recommend that egg hatching takes place in Unova (!!!) as you will get more eggs done per day due to the shorter distance between PC and the Old man breeder.

 

 

 

4) Shiny Hunting in Safari Zone

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This section will contain legal shiny hunting tools that can be of use to you for your hunts. Anything posted here are in compliance with PokeMMO's Code of Conduct


1) The best way to keep track of your number of encounters:

@Fixedgaming is one of our very best tool developer. He has developed a very solid Encounter Counter that keeps track of your hunt. I am sharing this, as I believe that knowing your encounter amount is what is the most important motivational factor when shiny hunting. As an alternative to this tool, you can just count your Bag_Leppa_Berry_Sprite.png.deb9e7ef1f0e8fbef9493e98f8005afe.png Leppa berries.

 

@Gilan is also one of our very best tool developer, and he has created the newest encounter counter, which I believe most of the community is currently using for their shiny hunts: [TOOL] Gilan's Encounter Counter

 

2) HD Battle Sprites to distinguish shinies from nonshinies:

@Verdep posted a very nice HD Battle Sprite mod that can be very important to use whenever hunting shiny Pokémon that looks a lot like their normal form. Installing the shiny package will help you not mistakenly fleeing from a horde containing a shiny. See an example of the visual here:

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This section will contain information about other useful guides or links. If you ever have any suggestions regarding additions, please feel free to let me know. 

 

1) Shiny Existence Threadhttps://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/55862-unofficial-shiny-existence-thread-5th-life 

 

2) Find inspiration for your next shiny Pokémonhttps://pokemondb.net/pokedex/shiny

 

3) 2020 All Hordes Locations - EV and Shinyhttps://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/108705-2020-all-horde-locations-ev-and-shiny/

 


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Note: I might edit this guide from time to time dependent on feedback from the community!

So if you have any suggestions, changes or other interesting things to add - let me know! 

BEST OF LUCK, POKEMMO SHINY HUNTERS!

May RNGesus be with you


TLDR;

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PokeMMO rate is 1/30k. 1/27k with donator. Encounters don't stack, and this means that the chance is 1/30k or 1/27k (with donator) for each encounter. It is ALL RNG. Be patient and dedicated. Good luck, fam o/ >>>>>>SRIF<<<<<<<

 

 

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