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What is a swarm ?

In PokeMMO, a swarm is a wild group of Pokemon. It appears at a given place at a given time for a limited time. A swarm is composed of 4 Pokemons that appear in overworld as sprites. Sometimes, Pokemons appear outside their usual location

Official presentation of swarms by PokeMMO.

Official presentation of Swarm by PokeMMO

This is the official presentation from PokeMMO. We can see :

- Top Left : Absol swarm at Lost Cave (Kanto)

- Top Right : Vileplume swarm at Route 230 (Sinnoh)

- Bottom Left : Wailmer swarm in the sea (unknown place)

- Bottom Right : Scyther swarm at Route 14 (Kanto)

 

 

Why is a swarm useful ?

A swarm is an easy way to catch a Pokemon outside its usual location. Somtimes swarm are composed of Pokemon you can't find in the wild.

Pokemon from swarms often have good IV stats.

 

 

Where do swarm appear ?

As far as we know, a swarm can appear in many places :

grass, cave, routes (even without grass), sea, lakes, Power Plant, Pokemon Mansion

We haven't seen any swarm in cities for now.

 

 

What Pokemon ?

We haven't seen enough swarms to have an accurate list of what Pokemon can appear in swarm. But we think there is no limit as the Pokemon is available in the game.

We noticed some kinf of combinations. The pokemon that appear and its locations seem to be linked

Notable appearances : Magnezone (at Power Plant), Dusknoir (at Memorail Pillar), Lapras (in the sea), Chansey...

 

 

When does a swarm appears ?

As far as we know, a swarm can appear at any time of the day or the night.

 

 

How long does it appear ?

We don't know precisely. Between 15 and 40 minutes (IRL Time)

 

 

How to know ?

There are two ways to be aware of a swarm and its location

1/ Come across the swarm in the wild "by chance"

2/ Watch TVs in PNJ House (credits to @Minks)

A TV of a region can tell if there is a swarm and this region. If a there is a swarm in the region. An announcement will replace the advertisements and tell you the place and the Pokemon of the swarm.

 

Lapras have been spotted at Route 125 (Hoenn)

(sorry, I only have it in French. It says : "BREAKING NEWS! We heard from Yan that wild Lapras have been spotted at Route 125!)

 

 /!\ TV doesn't work in Unova. There is no way to track swarms there... /!\

 

Spoiler

Some houses with a TV that show swarms

 

This house in front of Vermilion port shows Kanto swarms.

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This house south of Slateport shipyard shows Hoenn swarms.

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This house next to the sailor in Pastoria shows Sinnoh swarms.

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Some Questions...

Do swarms appear for everyone ?

Yes.

 

Are IVs the same for everyone ?

No.

 

How many swarms a day ?

We don't know for now

 

Have swarms better shiny rate ?

No. This has been answered by official PokeMMO Facebook page.

 

 

What do we still don't know...

Many things !!! We would like to :

- write a full list of Pokemon from swarms

- write a full list of places where swarms appear

- be able to know if a moment in a day is best to see a swarm appears

 

 

 

How to answer these questions ?

We need data... to conduct some studies. If you spot a swarm and want to share this precious data with us, you can report it by following this link and answer this quick Google form :

https://forms.gle/d5ZiF9wzxer5LtpUA

 

We don't ask you for personal data and we will never ask for it. If you want, you can share you nickname so we can credit your report.

 

 

Known combinations so far

Spoiler

KANTO

Route 2

BeedrillBeedrill (report by sohamanand)

 

Route 3

BaltoyBaltoy

 

Route 4

BuizelBuizel

 

Route 13

ChanseyChansey

 

Route 17

MinunMinun

 

Route 18

MinunMinun

 

Route 24

SquirtleSquirtle (Report by Dip) - lvl 15

 

Route 25

BunearyBuneary

 

Rock Tunnel

SableyeSableye - lvl 24~25

 

Power Plant

MagnezoneMagnezone

ElectivireElectivire

 

Pokémon Mansion

NinetalesNinetales - lvl 39~40

 

Cerulean Cave

WigglytuffWigglytuff

 

Treasure Beach

PelipperPelipper

 

Mt. Ember

CharmeleonCharmeleon

 

Berry Forest

CarnivineCarnivine

 

Memorial Pillar

DusknoirDusknoir

 

Ruin Valley

YanmegaYanmega - lvl 55

 

Lost Cave

MismagiusMismagius - lvl 54

 

Tanoby Ruins

RelicanthRelicanth (in water) - lvl 55

 

Trainer Tower

MantykeMantyke (in water) - lvl 52~53

 

 

HOENN

Route 115

ClefairyClefairy

 

Route 117

DeerlingDeerling - lvl 19

 

Route 121

BellossomBellossom

 

Route 124

CloysterCloyster (report  by Mosamuel)

 

Route 125

LaprasLapras (in water)

 

Route 128

QwilfishQwilfish (in water) - lvl 38~39

 

Petalburg Woods

SpinarakSpinarak - lvl 12

 

Rusturf Tunnel

Mime Jr.Mime Jr.

 

Sootopolis City

FeebasFeebas (report by Dip) - lvl 42~44

 

Mt. Pyre

BronzongBronzong

 

Ever Grande City

AltariaAltaria (Two of them were in water)

 

Victory Road

HitmonleeHimtonlee

 

Battle Frontier

MantykeMantyke (in water) (report by Dip) - lvl 54~56

 

Artisan Cave

SmeargleSmeargle (report by @Dip)

 

Abandoned Ship

MarshtompMarshtomp (report by Dip)

 

 

SINNOH

Route 201

Nidoran♀Nidoran♀ (report by Dip)

 

Route 206

LarvitarLarvitar

 

Route 208

SmeargleSmeargle

 

Route 211

TeddiursaTeddiursa

 

Route 212

GrotleGrotle (report by @Harfa)

 

Route 213

SwellowSwellow

 

Route 214

MightyenaMightyena

 

Route 215

GliscorGliscor (Report by Dip) - lvl 27

 

Route 222

SkittySkitty

 

Route 228

SandslashSandslash


Route 230

VictreebelVictreebel

TogekissTogekiss (report by Dip) - lvl 55~57

 

Route 240

BagonBagon (report by Dip) - lvl 32~33

 

Lake Verity

WobbuffetWobbuffet

 

Great Marsh

ArbokArbok

ExeggcuteExeggcute

 

Eterna Forest

BeedrillBeedrill (report by Dip)

 

 

UNOVA

Route 10

TyrogueTyrogue

 

Dreamyard

RotomRotom (report by Wailord) - lvl 60

 

Victory Road

SkarmorySkarmory (report by Dip)

 

 

Your help is welcome ! Please pardon my english. Do not hesitate to correct if needed.

If you have questions. Feel free to ask. This will complete the guide.

 

A lucky swarm !

lucky swarm

 

 

Thanks to @Dip for typo corrections

 

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In the form, does time refer to ingame time or IRL time? And if IRL time, what time zone? Also, there are swarms that are sometimes inaccessible, maybe you could add something for that in the form?

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Thanks for a nicely formatted post. This is gonna help many new players. Few things:

 

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A swarm is composed of 2 - 4 Pokemons taht appear outside their usual location.

There is minor typo with "that" above and from my experience, when a swarm happens, there are always 4 pokemon. They're not always within the same grass patch but they're always within proximity. Idk if this is true for all swarms but if it is, then it is wrong to say 2-4.

 

Also smeargle swarm can happen in artisan cave, which is their most common location. It might be better to reword that and say something along the lines of "pokemon that appear in overworld as sprites" or something like that instead of saying they appear outside of their usual location. This is your guide after all and you can word it in any form you want.

 

Moreover, the English name of Undy is Unova. Thanks again for the guide, +1.

 

As for documenting swarms for that forums, I have poke caught in swarms so I know their locations and catch times but I dont know their start and expire times. Do you want me to skip those entries or try to add those without filling the times?

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52 minutes ago, Dip said:

There is minor typo with "that" above and from my experience, when a swarm happens, there are always 4 pokemon. They're not always within the same grass patch but they're always within proximity. Idk if this is true for all swarms but if it is, then it is wrong to say 2-4.

No in fact I've encountered a deerling swarm which had 2 deerlings and also a swarm which had one chatot.

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No in fact I've encountered a deerling swarm which had 2 deerlings and also a swarm which had one chatot.

 

Good to know, if this is the case it should be corrected to 1-4 pokemon then

 

Edit: See official response below

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1 hour ago, zapdosfangaming said:

No in fact I've encountered a deerling swarm which had 2 deerlings and also a swarm which had one chatot.

Swarms always contain 4 Pokemon. It sounds like you encountered these just as they were ending, which despawned the ones you hadn't yet fought.

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2 hours ago, Rache said:

Swarms always contain 4 Pokemon. It sounds like you encountered these just as they were ending, which despawned the ones you hadn't yet fought.

Ohhh...k.. Thanks.

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Thanks everybody for replying, correcting and debatting ! :)

 

22 hours ago, CrzPapel said:

In the form, does time refer to ingame time or IRL time? And if IRL time, what time zone? Also, there are swarms that are sometimes inaccessible, maybe you could add something for that in the form?

Mmmh... It's right. I didn't think about that.. For now we are French people reporting swarms so we report French time (UTC+2). I don't know how I can make it easier for everyone. Maybe we can think about ingame time ? 

 

EDIT. After some thoughts... your time zone doesn't really matter me, as Google gives me the time when the report is submitted. What really matters is the duraiton of the swarm reported !

 

 

18 hours ago, Dip said:

As for documenting swarms for that forums, I have poke caught in swarms so I know their locations and catch times but I dont know their start and expire times. Do you want me to skip those entries or try to add those without filling the times?

Thanks a lot ! I report swarms for 2-3 weeks and sometimes it contains only 2 or 3 Pokemons, like @zapdosfangaming ! It's quite 5% of sarms I saw.

Since I wrote this guide, I noticed there are indeed a lot of given combinations (Magnezone in Power Plant, Lapras in sea, Dusknoir in Memorial Pillar...) ! I will change this in my guide.

Feel free to share your combinations Pokemon encountered/place, I will add them :)

 

 

16 hours ago, Rache said:

Swarms always contain 4 Pokemon. It sounds like you encountered these just as they were ending, which despawned the ones you hadn't yet fought.

So, does this close the debate ?

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The form you have linked is very heavy with a LOT of required questions. I would recommend removing and making most of them optional.

 

ex. Snorlax is a common Route 11 and Route 16 (Kanto) swarm, but I don't have the data of when it last spawned. Wartortle and Slowking both spawn at Cape Brink

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4 minutes ago, foosas said:

The form you have linked is very heavy with a LOT of required questions. I would recommend removing and making most of them optional.

 

ex. Snorlax is a common Route 11 and Route 16 (Kanto) swarm, but I don't have the data of when it last spawned. Wartortle and Slowking both spawn at Cape Brink

I know. But we need some date about time to learn how swarms work.

I don"t think Snorlax is considered as a swarm. It's more a script event, I guess...
If you want to report swarms but don't know their spawning time, please feel free to report them here ! :)

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21 minutes ago, Guizmobese said:

I know. But we need some date about time to learn how swarms work.

I don"t think Snorlax is considered as a swarm. It's more a script event, I guess...
If you want to report swarms but don't know their spawning time, please feel free to report them here ! :)

Guizmobese, a person asked me about swarm locations for my PokeDex Guide, so I linked your guide. Thank you for your contribution, it is quite appreciated.

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4 hours ago, Guizmobese said:

If you want to report swarms but don't know their spawning time, please feel free to report them here ! :)

I'll post some swarms that are not located in the main post with proof.

 

Charmander:* Kanto Route 3, proof

Gliscor:* Sinnoh Route 215, proof

Togekiss:* Sinnoh Route 230 proof

Absol: Sinnoh Route 213 proof

Lunatone: Sinnoh Sendoff Spring proof

Sableye:* Kanto Route 9 proof

Feebas:* Hoenn Sootopolis City proof

Squirtle:* Kanto Route 24 proof

 

The entries with asterisk (*) mean I personally attended these swarms. Some of the images I used for proof include poke I found in GTL but they accurately display their caught location.

 

Mantyke:* Hoenn Battle Frontier proof

Bagon:* Sinnoh Route 210 proof

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18 hours ago, Dip said:

I'll post some swarms that are not located in the main post with proof.

Thank you very much ! To be as relevant as possible, I will ony select swarm you saw yourself in 2020.

We are collecting more and more data ! Keep going on reporting every swarm you see :)

 

I also uptaded last spoiler in the Guide to be easier to understand !

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49 minutes ago, Guizmobese said:

Thank you very much ! To be as relevant as possible, I will ony select swarm you saw yourself in 2020.

We are collecting more and more data ! Keep going on reporting every swarm you see :)

 

I also uptaded last spoiler in the Guide to be easier to understand !

Also, Paras can be seen at Pinwheel Forrest. If you want, I can log in a bit later to take a screenshot of my OT Paras collection (they come in a set of 4).

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