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1.7 to go down, 6.7 to go up, nothing changes this month. 

OU:

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All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams
  558840 93140
Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage
Scizor 31871 34.22%
Garchomp 23711 25.46%
Conkeldurr 22147 23.78%
Gengar 21366 22.94%
Ferrothorn 17375 18.65%
Skarmory 15675 16.83%
Kingdra 15189 16.31%
Pelipper 15155 16.27%
Tyranitar 14700 15.78%
Hydreigon 14568 15.64%
Rotom (Wash) 14494 15.56%
Volcarona 14284 15.34%
Blissey 13417 14.41%
Milotic 12923 13.87%
Magnezone 12579 13.51%
Togekiss 11945 12.82%
Cofagrigus 11462 12.31%
Jolteon 10705 11.49%
Dragonite 10695 11.48%
Excadrill 9334 10.02%
Gyarados 9317 10.00%
Chansey 8908 9.56%
Reuniclus 8818 9.47%
Mienshao 8480 9.10%
Wobbuffet 7577 8.14%
Infernape 7335 7.88%
Hippowdon 7138 7.66%
Cloyster 7059 7.58%
Salamence 6956 7.47%
Breloom 6680 7.17%
Tentacruel 6581 7.07%
Chandelure 6463 6.94%
Gliscor 6272 6.73%
Dugtrio 6046 6.49%
Starmie 5934 6.37%
Ludicolo 5564 5.97%
Darmanitan 5496 5.90%
Swampert 4778 5.13%
Kabutops 4461 4.79%
Umbreon 3806 4.09%
Gastrodon 3783 4.06%
Torkoal 3743 4.02%
Mandibuzz 3578 3.84%
Lucario 3464 3.72%
Metagross 3428 3.68%
Arcanine 3032 3.26%
Bronzong 2834 3.04%
Whimsicott 2615 2.81%
Haxorus 2468 2.65%
Porygon2 2258 2.42%
Zoroark 2181 2.34%
Jellicent 1992 2.14%
Scrafty 1933 2.08%
Crobat 1892 2.03%
Aerodactyl 1857 1.99%
Snorlax 1785 1.92%
Dusclops 1761 1.89%
Weavile 1744 1.87%
Charizard 1586 1.70%
Forretress 1567 1.68%
Alakazam 1444 1.55%
Ambipom 1345 1.44%
Mantine 1305 1.40%
Exeggutor 1234 1.32%
Mamoswine 1230 1.32%
Heracross 1199 1.29%
Electrode 1198 1.29%
Vaporeon 1191 1.28%
Venusaur 1180 1.27%
Krookodile 1167 1.25%
Azumarill 1164 1.25%
Rotom (Heat) 1124 1.21%
Bisharp 1123 1.21%
Swellow 1092 1.17%
Gigalith 1064 1.14%
Slowbro 1054 1.13%
Staraptor 1052 1.13%
Gardevoir 974 1.05%
Gallade 965 1.04%
Electivire 937 1.01%

UU:

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All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams
  8628 1438
Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage
Rotom (Heat) 398 27.68%
Mandibuzz 373 25.94%
Crobat 336 23.37%
Snorlax 287 19.96%
Lanturn 281 19.54%
Mamoswine 263 18.29%
Arcanine 262 18.22%
Heracross 247 17.18%
Forretress 235 16.34%
Jellicent 228 15.86%
Bronzong 226 15.72%
Flygon 219 15.23%
Eelektross 194 13.49%
Krookodile 193 13.42%
Metagross 192 13.35%
Scrafty 178 12.38%
Yanmega 153 10.64%
Medicham 153 10.64%
Empoleon 150 10.43%
Torkoal 132 9.18%
Venomoth 131 9.11%
Rotom (Mow) 130 9.04%
Donphan 129 8.97%
Porygon2 127 8.83%
Dusclops 113 7.86%
Staraptor 109 7.58%
Druddigon 109 7.58%
Electrode 108 7.51%
Sigilyph 107 7.44%
Gastrodon 101 7.02%
Azumarill 100 6.95%
Typhlosion 100 6.95%
Rhyperior 95 6.61%
Slowbro 93 6.47%
Bisharp 91 6.33%
Linoone 87 6.05%
Umbreon 82 5.70%
Machamp 78 5.42%
Alakazam 75 5.22%
Exeggutor 73 5.08%
Vaporeon 64 4.45%
Weavile 59 4.10%
Mismagius 59 4.10%
Absol 58 4.03%
Durant 47 3.27%
Gligar 45 3.13%
Mantine 43 2.99%
Roserade 42 2.92%
Gigalith 39 2.71%
Honchkrow 38 2.64%
Blastoise 38 2.64%
Spiritomb 37 2.57%
Manectric 36 2.50%
Zoroark 35 2.43%
Galvantula 34 2.36%
Whimsicott 33 2.29%
Venusaur 31 2.16%
Gardevoir 30 2.09%
Toxicroak 29 2.02%
Victreebel 29 2.02%
Kabutops 28 1.95%
Charizard 25 1.74%
Ambipom 25 1.74%
Nidoqueen 24 1.67%
Blaziken 23 1.60%
Aerodactyl 21 1.46%
Gallade 21 1.46%
Sceptile 21 1.46%
Archeops 21 1.46%
Lilligant 20 1.39%
Magneton 20 1.39%
Slowking 18 1.25%
Electivire 17 1.18%
Serperior 17 1.18%
Audino 17 1.18%
Ampharos 17 1.18%
Steelix 17 1.18%
Houndoom 17 1.18%
Swellow 16 1.11%
Dusknoir 16 1.11%
Omastar 16 1.11%
Ursaring 15 1.04%
Hariyama 15 1.04%
Espeon 15 1.04%

NU:

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All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams
  7644 1274
Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage
Blastoise 329 25.82%
Steelix 306 24.02%
Roserade 262 20.57%
Golbat 226 17.74%
Spiritomb 180 14.13%
Manectric 175 13.74%
Mismagius 171 13.42%
Gigalith 170 13.34%
Gallade 169 13.27%
Mantine 148 11.62%
Honchkrow 148 11.62%
Gligar 144 11.30%
Galvantula 144 11.30%
Hitmonchan 143 11.22%
Swellow 135 10.60%
Nidoqueen 119 9.34%
Venusaur 118 9.26%
Zoroark 116 9.11%
Espeon 116 9.11%
Primeape 115 9.03%
Braviary 114 8.95%
Toxicroak 111 8.71%
Vaporeon 110 8.63%
Charizard 108 8.48%
Stoutland 108 8.48%
Bronzor 107 8.40%
Clefable 106 8.32%
Ambipom 102 8.01%
Houndoom 101 7.93%
Hitmontop 86 6.75%
Omastar 83 6.51%
Drapion 82 6.44%
Kangaskhan 80 6.28%
Sceptile 78 6.12%
Sableye 77 6.04%
Whimsicott 71 5.57%
Gardevoir 70 5.49%
Musharna 68 5.34%
Golem 67 5.26%
Rhydon 65 5.10%
Vanilluxe 64 5.02%
Slowking 63 4.95%
Magmortar 63 4.95%
Aerodactyl 62 4.87%
Weezing 60 4.71%
Electivire 59 4.63%
Bibarel 59 4.63%
Lilligant 55 4.32%
Scyther 53 4.16%
Golurk 53 4.16%
Froslass 51 4.00%
Archeops 48 3.77%
Dusknoir 48 3.77%
Cryogonal 48 3.77%
Magneton 46 3.61%
Miltank 45 3.53%
Klinklang 43 3.38%
Altaria 41 3.22%
Nidoking 36 2.83%
Claydol 36 2.83%
Abomasnow 36 2.83%
Rampardos 35 2.75%
Skuntank 34 2.67%
Throh 33 2.59%
Serperior 31 2.43%
Sharpedo 31 2.43%
Feraligatr 30 2.35%
Munchlax 30 2.35%
Aggron 29 2.28%
Samurott 28 2.20%
Probopass 28 2.20%
Lapras 28 2.20%
Stunfisk 28 2.20%
Ursaring 25 1.96%
Hariyama 25 1.96%
Pikachu 24 1.88%
Accelgor 24 1.88%
Poliwrath 24 1.88%
Sawk 24 1.88%
Lickilicky 24 1.88%
Tauros 24 1.88%
Smeargle 22 1.73%
Rotom (Fan) 22 1.73%
Escavalier 21 1.65%
Blaziken 20 1.57%
Ampharos 19 1.49%
Emboar 18 1.41%
Exeggutor 16 1.26%
Muk 16 1.26%
Crustle 15 1.18%
Audino 14 1.10%
Hitmonlee 14 1.10%
Quagsire 14 1.10%
Luxray 14 1.10%
Rotom (Frost) 14 1.10%
Piloswine 13 1.02%

Doubles:

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All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams
  3012 502
Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage
Hitmontop 165 32.87%
Togekiss 160 31.87%
Tyranitar 117 23.31%
Garchomp 97 19.32%
Gengar 90 17.93%
Kingdra 90 17.93%
Salamence 79 15.74%
Reuniclus 77 15.34%
Hydreigon 76 15.14%
Rotom (Wash) 76 15.14%
Metagross 73 14.54%
Excadrill 65 12.95%
Gastrodon 62 12.35%
Conkeldurr 60 11.95%
Pelipper 56 11.16%
Blastoise 55 10.96%
Gyarados 55 10.96%
Amoonguss 55 10.96%
Scizor 53 10.56%
Porygon2 52 10.36%
Volcarona 52 10.36%
Arcanine 48 9.56%
Milotic 46 9.16%
Ferrothorn 46 9.16%
Chandelure 43 8.57%
Dragonite 38 7.57%
Torkoal 38 7.57%
Rhyperior 38 7.57%
Mienshao 37 7.37%
Snorlax 36 7.17%
Hariyama 36 7.17%
Ludicolo 34 6.77%
Jolteon 29 5.78%
Bronzong 25 4.98%
Whimsicott 25 4.98%
Blissey 22 4.38%
Darmanitan 22 4.38%
Wobbuffet 21 4.18%
Dusclops 21 4.18%
Rotom (Heat) 21 4.18%
Cofagrigus 20 3.98%
Swampert 18 3.59%
Lilligant 18 3.59%
Alakazam 16 3.19%
Skarmory 16 3.19%
Eelektross 16 3.19%
Aerodactyl 15 2.99%
Gliscor 15 2.99%
Gothitelle 15 2.99%
Bisharp 15 2.99%
Charizard 14 2.79%
Gigalith 14 2.79%
Rotom (Mow) 14 2.79%
Staraptor 13 2.59%
Magnezone 13 2.59%
Jellicent 13 2.59%
Breloom 12 2.39%
Slowbro 11 2.19%
Typhlosion 11 2.19%
Porygon-Z 11 2.19%
Raichu 10 1.99%
Marowak 10 1.99%
Crobat 10 1.99%
Infernape 10 1.99%
Spiritomb 10 1.99%
Abomasnow 10 1.99%
Serperior 9 1.79%
Dugtrio 8 1.59%
Smeargle 8 1.59%
Lucario 8 1.59%
Hippowdon 8 1.59%
Zoroark 8 1.59%
Haxorus 8 1.59%
Venusaur 7 1.39%
Manectric 7 1.39%
Dusknoir 7 1.39%
Sawsbuck 7 1.39%
Druddigon 7 1.39%
Golduck 6 1.20%
Slowking 6 1.20%
Gardevoir 6 1.20%
Toxicroak 6 1.20%
Gallade 6 1.20%
Scolipede 6 1.20%
Accelgor 6 1.20%
Mandibuzz 6 1.20%
Tentacruel 5 1.00%
Starmie 5 1.00%
Vaporeon 5 1.00%
Ampharos 5 1.00%
Electivire 5 1.00%
Krookodile 5 1.00%
Sigilyph 5 1.00%
Vanilluxe 5 1.00%

LC:

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All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams
  2784 464
Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage
Mienfoo 358 77.16%
Vullaby 257 55.39%
Ferroseed 174 37.50%
Porygon 158 34.05%
Gastly 152 32.76%
Chinchou 122 26.29%
Frillish 111 23.92%
Onix 100 21.55%
Clamperl 94 20.26%
Bronzor 93 20.04%
Grimer 83 17.89%
Timburr 71 15.30%
Staryu 70 15.09%
Dwebble 68 14.66%
Elekid 66 14.22%
Magnemite 62 13.36%
Stunky 41 8.84%
Munchlax 39 8.41%
Yamask 34 7.33%
Tentacool 33 7.11%
Ponyta 31 6.68%
Drifloon 30 6.47%
Cranidos 28 6.03%
Hippopotas 28 6.03%
Drilbur 28 6.03%
Pawniard 26 5.60%
Croagunk 23 4.96%
Cottonee 22 4.74%
Abra 22 4.74%
Larvesta 19 4.09%
Magby 17 3.66%
Rufflet 17 3.66%
Voltorb 16 3.45%
Shellos 15 3.23%
Taillow 13 2.80%
Zubat 12 2.59%
Zigzagoon 12 2.59%
Archen 12 2.59%
Tirtouga 11 2.37%
Meowth 10 2.16%
Diglett 10 2.16%
Trubbish 10 2.16%
Dratini 9 1.94%
Larvitar 9 1.94%
Nosepass 8 1.72%
Snover 8 1.72%
Koffing 7 1.51%
Growlithe 7 1.51%
Axew 7 1.51%
Budew 6 1.29%
Shellder 5 1.08%
Omanyte 5 1.08%
Buneary 5 1.08%
Snivy 5 1.08%

We have also gone ahead and updated the NU/Untiered lists already live in game as neither of those are actual tier changes that would effect play as nothing changes in play-ability.

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25 minutes ago, richardbenzina said:

What changed specifically?

I didn't write it down, everything is still useable in NU though.  And Untiered isn't actually a tier so

11 minutes ago, MiraiZura said:

RU tier when

We have no interest in adding another tier

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7 hours ago, gbwead said:

My votes:
Garchomp banned from OU because it fits offensive uber characteristics imo.

Wobbuffet banned from OU because it fits supportive uber characteristics imo.

Drapion banned from NU because it fits offensive uber characteristics imo.

I second everything except Wobbuffet

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18 hours ago, richardbenzina said:

What changed specifically?

For example Roselia was listed as NU and is now listed as Untiered. In fact it doesn't change anything since NU/Untiered separation is simply visual (Untiered isn't an official tier) 

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2 hours ago, TohnR said:

For example Roselia was listed as NU and is now listed as Untiered. In fact it doesn't change anything since NU/Untiered separation is simply visual (Untiered isn't an official tier) 

Poll to make untiered an official tier kek

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On 4/26/2020 at 4:59 PM, TohnR said:

For example Roselia was listed as NU and is now listed as Untiered. In fact it doesn't change anything since NU/Untiered separation is simply visual (Untiered isn't an official tier) 

I know nothing changed in practice, i was just curious to know what changed in theory

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On 4/26/2020 at 1:24 AM, gbwead said:

My votes:
Garchomp banned from OU because it fits offensive uber characteristics imo.

Wobbuffet banned from OU because it fits supportive uber characteristics imo.

Drapion banned from NU because it fits offensive uber characteristics imo.

I agree only in drapion

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10 hours ago, richardbenzina said:

I know nothing changed in practice, i was just curious to know what changed in theory

Untiered is a dumping ground for anything that doesn't get significant usage in NU. Moving things from NU to untiered when they drop below a certain usage % is just removing clutter from the tier, making it easier to tell what's considered viable.

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9 hours ago, Rache said:

Untiered is a dumping ground for anything that doesn't get significant usage in NU. Moving things from NU to untiered when they drop below a certain usage % is just removing clutter from the tier, making it easier to tell what's considered viable.

since there is no tier like ru or pu, the community plays untiered as other tier more (Profe tourneys) so a regularization of nu could be gratifying for us and help us to enjoy more possibilities in the game

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