Rate my team please

[Apojuice]

I'm new to competitive and I am mainly wondering about movesets and natures for my pokes (modest or timid for 
hydreigon and magnezone, jolly or adamant for excadrill etc). 

Any help is greatly appreciated :)

Hydreigon @ Choice Specs  
Ability: Levitate  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Modest Nature  
- Dragon Pulse  
- Flamethrower  
- U-turn  
- Focus Blast  

Reuniclus but i have no idea with what set-up

 

Tyranitar @ Smooth Rock

Ability: Sand Stream

EVs: 248 HP / 76 Atk / 32 Def / 116 SpD / 36 Spe

Nature ???

- Stealth Rock

- Fire Blast

- Crunch

- Stone Edge

 

Magnezone @ Choice Scarf

Ability: Magnet Pull

EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Modest or Timid Nature?

 - Hidden Power [Fire]

- Thunderbolt

- Volt Switch

- Flash Cannon

 

Excadrill @ Chople Berry

Ability: Sand Rush

EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Adamant Nature

- Swords Dance

- Earthquake

- Iron Head

- Rock Slide

 

Salamence @ Leftovers

Ability: Intimidate

EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Jolly Nature

- Roost

- Dragon Dance

- Dragon Claw

- Earthquake

Edited March 10, 2020 by Apojuice

[Apojuice]

I really want to keep Hydreigon, I'm willing to swap out the rest for things like Ferrothorn I just don't know what stats/moves and natures to put on other mons.

[K4iser]

1 - Hydreigon prefers Draco Meteor over Dragon Pulse. It outright OHKOes any unsuspecting sweepers and switch-ins who didn't invest in SPDEF, and even some invested ones. For example:

252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Dragon Pulse vs. 236 HP / 176+ SpD Breloom: 208-246 (65 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Poison Heal
vs.
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. 236 HP / 176+ SpD Breloom: 341-402 (106.5 - 125.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Furthermore, U-Turn mitigates the single downside of this move through a switch-core, maximizing the value of both.

2 - Your team suffers from a glaring weakness to fighting types, being specially vulnerable to the common offensive coverage of fighting-ice (which is often achieved through the common splashing of Ice Punch in most fighting type sweepers). Part of this is aggravated by Salamence, who is a particularly bad choice due to its nature of being a fodder-punishing sweeper (as a setup focused unit due to dragon dance) that requires intensive support, to which your team offers none. You already have a far more effective and powerful sweeper in Excadrill, that properly sinergizes with the rest of this composition. I'd recommend swapping Salamence for Jellicent, who should be capable of properly covering for both Fighting and Ice weaknesses, serving as a check and counter for the likes of Conkeldurr, Azumarill and many defensive threats such as Ferrothorn and Forretress who Jellicent can reliably outrun and cripple through taunt. It also imposes a more well-rounded threat to ground types, further solidifying your core by providing a safe switch should Excadrill and Magnezone fall into a check.

3 - Chople Berry should provide more consistency for Tyranitar, allowing Ttar a chance to survive and revenge kill the likes of Gengar and Alakazam (bc focus blast). A careful nature is therefore preferred.

 

[Lin]

56 minutes ago, K4iser said:

1 - Hydreigon prefers Draco Meteor over Dragon Pulse. It outright OHKOes any unsuspecting sweepers and switch-ins who didn't invest in SPDEF, and even some invested ones.

Hydreigon cannot learn Draco Meteor in PokeMMO for balance reasons. Thus, Dragon Pulse is the STAB dragon move of choice.

[Apojuice]

4 hours ago, K4iser said:

1 - Hydreigon prefers Draco Meteor over Dragon Pulse. It outright OHKOes any unsuspecting sweepers and switch-ins who didn't invest in SPDEF, and even some invested ones. For example:

252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Dragon Pulse vs. 236 HP / 176+ SpD Breloom: 208-246 (65 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Poison Heal
vs.
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. 236 HP / 176+ SpD Breloom: 341-402 (106.5 - 125.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Furthermore, U-Turn mitigates the single downside of this move through a switch-core, maximizing the value of both.

2 - Your team suffers from a glaring weakness to fighting types, being specially vulnerable to the common offensive coverage of fighting-ice (which is often achieved through the common splashing of Ice Punch in most fighting type sweepers). Part of this is aggravated by Salamence, who is a particularly bad choice due to its nature of being a fodder-punishing sweeper (as a setup focused unit due to dragon dance) that requires intensive support, to which your team offers none. You already have a far more effective and powerful sweeper in Excadrill, that properly sinergizes with the rest of this composition. I'd recommend swapping Salamence for Jellicent, who should be capable of properly covering for both Fighting and Ice weaknesses, serving as a check and counter for the likes of Conkeldurr, Azumarill and many defensive threats such as Ferrothorn and Forretress who Jellicent can reliably outrun and cripple through taunt. It also imposes a more well-rounded threat to ground types, further solidifying your core by providing a safe switch should Excadrill and Magnezone fall into a check.

3 - Chople Berry should provide more consistency for Tyranitar, allowing Ttar a chance to survive and revenge kill the likes of Gengar and Alakazam (bc focus blast). A careful nature is therefore preferred.

 

Thanks for the reply, I managed to pick up a Sassy TTar for cheap which is probably not much different to the careful nature since its speed is already dreadful. I'm just wondering do you think Reuniclus isn't enough to counter fighting types? If so I can certtainly sub in jellicent for salamence. 

[Risadex]

-your hydreigon's nature is about your preference, but keep in mind modest reachs 150 speed while timid reachs 165.

 

For that you should make some calcs to see if the modest nature can score some KOs from your interest that with timid wouldn't be possible. Also you need to check which pokes are being used and check their speed tiers.

 

There's a list with the most popular mons of last month (based on usage)

 

Pokemon        Percentage  avg. Speed 50
Scizor        30.12%       (85-117)
Garchomp        28.95%       (154-169)
Conkeldurr        25.13%        (65-97)
    Gengar.     23.05%       (162-178)
Ferrothorn        20.33%       (22)
Magnezone        17.70%       (112-123)
Hydreigon        17.03%       (150-165)
Skarmory        16.90%       (90-134)
Volcarona        14.95%       (152-167)
Kingdra        14.23%       (137-150)
Pelipper        14.23%       (85-128)
Milotic        13.81%       (101-146)
Tyranitar        13.38%       (113-124)
Dragonite        12.89%        (132-145)
Gyarados        12.19%       (133-146)
Jolteon        12.05%       (182-200)
Excadrill        11.64%       (140-154)
Rotom(Wash)        11.55%        (107-151)
Salamence        11.04%        (152-167)
Blissey        11.02%              75
Togekiss        10.86%        (100-145)
Cofagrigus        10.64%        30

 

 

As you can see, there aren't many matchups which timid takes advantage, since mostly mons use a speed nature, the 2 interesting matchups would be offensive rotoms and opponent's hydreigon.

 

Nothing (non-gimmick) can outspeed adamant excadrill in sand. Jolly excadrill would be useful mostly for countering other excadrills.

 

Most people use bold reuniclus

252 hp/def

@leftovers or life orb

Calm mind

Recover

Focus blast

Psychic

 

This set can break through passive walls like blissey, and have much opportunities to setup. If your opponent doesn't have a phazer/powerful dark/ghost/bug STAB or trick, it can wreck havoc mostly teams. Can also be used as a check for mostly conkeldurr sets (be aware of flame orb facade on switch)

 

With this spread and moveset, would be interesting a sassy nature for tyranitar. So it can check volcarona better, or a brave nature if you want to hit harder. If you have something specific to outspeed, just put a -def nature instead. 

 

Magnezone is mostly used timid, so you can outspeed up to base 115 pokemon. It means you wlil outspeed stuff like Gengar, starmie, modest Magnezone, etc.

 

[Apojuice]

31 minutes ago, Risadex said:

-your hydreigon's nature is about your preference, but keep in mind modest reachs 150 speed while timid reachs 165.

 

For that you should make some calcs to see if the modest nature can score some KOs from your interest that with timid wouldn't be possible. Also you need to check which pokes are being used and check their speed tiers.

 

There's a list with the most popular mons of last month (based on usage)

 

Pokemon        Percentage  avg. Speed 50
Scizor        30.12%       (85-117)
Garchomp        28.95%       (154-169)
Conkeldurr        25.13%        (65-97)
    Gengar.     23.05%       (162-178)
Ferrothorn        20.33%       (22)
Magnezone        17.70%       (112-123)
Hydreigon        17.03%       (150-165)
Skarmory        16.90%       (90-134)
Volcarona        14.95%       (152-167)
Kingdra        14.23%       (137-150)
Pelipper        14.23%       (85-128)
Milotic        13.81%       (101-146)
Tyranitar        13.38%       (113-124)
Dragonite        12.89%        (132-145)
Gyarados        12.19%       (133-146)
Jolteon        12.05%       (182-200)
Excadrill        11.64%       (140-154)
Rotom(Wash)        11.55%        (107-151)
Salamence        11.04%        (152-167)
Blissey        11.02%              75
Togekiss        10.86%        (100-145)
Cofagrigus        10.64%        30

 

 

As you can see, there aren't many matchups which timid takes advantage, since mostly mons use a speed nature, the 2 interesting matchups would be offensive rotoms and opponent's hydreigon.

 

Nothing (non-gimmick) can outspeed adamant excadrill in sand. Jolly excadrill would be useful mostly for countering other excadrills.

 

Most people use bold reuniclus

252 hp/def

@leftovers or life orb

Calm mind

Recover

Focus blast

Psychic

 

This set can break through passive walls like blissey, and have much opportunities to setup. If your opponent doesn't have a phazer/powerful dark/ghost/bug STAB or trick, it can wreck havoc mostly teams. Can also be used as a check for mostly conkeldurr sets (be aware of flame orb facade on switch)

 

With this spread and moveset, would be interesting a sassy nature for tyranitar. So it can check volcarona better, or a brave nature if you want to hit harder. If you have something specific to outspeed, just put a -def nature instead. 

 

Magnezone is mostly used timid, so you can outspeed up to base 115 pokemon. It means you wlil outspeed stuff like Gengar, starmie, modest Magnezone, etc.

 

Wow, what a great and informative reply. Thank you so much! Do you see any obvious weaknesses in this team? 

[Risadex]

29 minutes ago, Apojuice said:

Wow, what a great and informative reply. Thank you so much! Do you see any obvious weaknesses in this team? 

As pointed above, there are 4 pokemons weak to fighting moves, and tough reuniclus can check mostly fighting mons, but struggle in some cases, like u-turn users. once he's down you might have issues. Cofragigus is the prime fighting counter, and can answer threats like conkeldur and mienshao.

 

Your team doesn't have some answer to rain teams (at average ELO, you probably will face much rain teams in ladder) , and your team doesn't have a good answer to them.

 

You might focus on your main team first, then focus on covering if you start to face much rain teams.

 

There are some Pokemons common seen in rain teams:

 

Peliper

Specs kingdra

Fetrothorn

Wobbufet

Dugtrio

Scizor

Kabutops

Ludicolo

Cloyster

 

Good luck.

[Apojuice]

26 minutes ago, Risadex said:

As pointed above, there are 4 pokemons weak to fighting moves, and tough reuniclus can check mostly fighting mons, but struggle in some cases, like u-turn users. once he's down you might have issues. Cofragigus is the prime fighting counter, and can answer threats like conkeldur and mienshao.

Awesome, some things to think about. Thanks a lot!