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As stated before, we will be using the old 4.36% cutoff points for the first 2 months of the new mons to let things settle in a bit.

 

I'm going to keep it short and just list everything this month.

 

Moving Down from OU to UU:

Arcanine, Wobbuffet, Porygon2, Torterra, Empoleon, Staraptor, Luxray, Rampardos, Bastiodon, Wormadam(Trash), Wormadam(Sandy), Wormadam(Plant) Mothim, Lopunny, Purugly, Skuntank, Chatot, Spiritomb, Drapion, Toxicroak, Gastrodon, Abomasnow, Rotom, Rotom(Heat), Rotom(Mow), Rotom(Frost), Rotom(Fan)

 

Additionally in BL these 2 mons are below the cutoff if we wished to move them down if the new mons make it acceptable.

Porygon-Z, Haxorus

 

Moving Down from UU to NU:

Magneton, Gligar, Mantine, Manectric, Zoroark, Galvantula

 

Below the cutoff but in BL2:

Honchkrow

 

Moving Up from NU to UU:

Blastoise, Druddigon

 

OU:

Spoiler
All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams
  359868 59978
Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage
Scizor 18064 30.12%
Garchomp 17361 28.95%
Conkeldurr 15071 25.13%
Gengar 13825 23.05%
Ferrothorn 12193 20.33%
Magnezone 10618 17.70%
Hydreigon 10214 17.03%
Skarmory 10137 16.90%
Volcarona 8965 14.95%
Kingdra 8537 14.23%
Pelipper 8534 14.23%
Milotic 8285 13.81%
Tyranitar 8023 13.38%
Dragonite 7731 12.89%
Gyarados 7310 12.19%
Jolteon 7230 12.05%
Excadrill 6984 11.64%
Rotom(Wash) 6930 11.55%
Salamence 6624 11.04%
Blissey 6610 11.02%
Togekiss 6514 10.86%
Cofagrigus 6382 10.64%
Reuniclus 5902 9.84%
Cloyster 5307 8.85%
Chansey 5280 8.80%
Mienshao 5258 8.77%
Infernape 5162 8.61%
Gliscor 5043 8.41%
Chandelure 4802 8.01%
Tentacruel 4571 7.62%
Starmie 4369 7.28%
Hippowdon 4347 7.25%
Darmanitan 4141 6.90%
Breloom 3733 6.22%
Swampert 3558 5.93%
Lucario 2904 4.84%
Kabutops 2809 4.68%
Metagross 2670 4.45%
Arcanine 2524 4.21%
Ludicolo 2252 3.75%
Gastrodon 2202 3.67%
Dugtrio 2128 3.55%
Torkoal 2082 3.47%
Umbreon 1994 3.32%
Porygon2 1863 3.11%
Mandibuzz 1828 3.05%
Haxorus 1718 2.86%
Crobat 1617 2.70%
Bronzong 1609 2.68%
Aerodactyl 1543 2.57%
Zoroark 1541 2.57%
Weavile 1538 2.56%
Jellicent 1411 2.35%
Wobbuffet 1410 2.35%
Alakazam 1324 2.21%
Mamoswine 1185 1.98%
Dusclops 1183 1.97%
Whimsicott 1129 1.88%
Toxicroak 1027 1.71%
Staraptor 1002 1.67%
Empoleon 997 1.66%
Venusaur 987 1.65%
Ambipom 960 1.60%
Scrafty 945 1.58%
Snorlax 936 1.56%
Krookodile 881 1.47%
Electrode 876 1.46%
Bisharp 817 1.36%
Charizard 779 1.30%
Mantine 768 1.28%
Marowak 740 1.23%
Gigalith 731 1.22%
Forretress 730 1.22%
Porygon-Z 711 1.19%
Swellow 666 1.11%
Azumarill 658 1.10%
Eelektross 643 1.07%
Sigilyph 619 1.03%

UU:

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All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams
  2592 432
Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage
Crobat 200 46.30%
Eelektross 138 31.94%
Forretress 114 26.39%
Snorlax 113 26.16%
Mamoswine 109 25.23%
Mandibuzz 97 22.45%
Lanturn 91 21.06%
Jellicent 78 18.06%
Venomoth 74 17.13%
Donphan 70 16.20%
Heracross 68 15.74%
Typhlosion 65 15.05%
Scrafty 60 13.89%
Bronzong 55 12.73%
Flygon 53 12.27%
Krookodile 50 11.57%
Electrode 47 10.88%
Linoone 47 10.88%
Yanmega 46 10.65%
Medicham 46 10.65%
Weavile 45 10.42%
Azumarill 43 9.95%
Durant 38 8.80%
Dusclops 36 8.33%
Rhyperior 35 8.10%
Absol 34 7.87%
Slowbro 31 7.18%
Torkoal 28 6.48%
Dugtrio 26 6.02%
Machamp 26 6.02%
Umbreon 25 5.79%
Vaporeon 24 5.56%
Blastoise 23 5.32%
Bisharp 22 5.09%
Alakazam 21 4.86%
Sigilyph 21 4.86%
Druddigon 21 4.86%
Magneton 18 4.17%
Honchkrow 17 3.94%
Victreebel 17 3.94%
Electivire 16 3.70%
Galvantula 15 3.47%
Gigalith 14 3.24%
Steelix 14 3.24%
Zoroark 13 3.01%
Mantine 13 3.01%
Swellow 13 3.01%
Roserade 13 3.01%
Whimsicott 12 2.78%
Lilligant 12 2.78%
Manectric 12 2.78%
Nidoqueen 12 2.78%
Mismagius 11 2.55%
Archeops 9 2.08%
Gligar 9 2.08%
Ludicolo 8 1.85%
Venusaur 8 1.85%
Espeon 8 1.85%
Clefable 8 1.85%
Gardevoir 7 1.62%
Audino 7 1.62%
Aerodactyl 6 1.39%
Gallade 6 1.39%
Froslass 6 1.39%
Ambipom 5 1.16%
Charizard 5 1.16%
Exeggutor 5 1.16%
Pikachu 5 1.16%
Dusknoir 5 1.16%
Hariyama 5 1.16%
Smeargle 5 1.16%
Houndoom 5 1.16%
Musharna 5 1.16%
Hitmonchan 5 1.16%

NU:

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All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams
  6888 1148
Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage
Blastoise 545 47.47%
Roserade 298 25.96%
Golbat 253 22.04%
Druddigon 248 21.60%
Gigalith 239 20.82%
Stoutland 214 18.64%
Mismagius 195 16.99%
Gallade 192 16.72%
Steelix 188 16.38%
Houndoom 174 15.16%
Espeon 172 14.98%
Sableye 149 12.98%
Swellow 140 12.20%
Hitmonchan 130 11.32%
Primeape 127 11.06%
Charizard 126 10.98%
Omastar 120 10.45%
Musharna 100 8.71%
Gardevoir 99 8.62%
Sceptile 98 8.54%
Rhydon 91 7.93%
Electivire 88 7.67%
Clefable 85 7.40%
Ambipom 84 7.32%
Lilligant 80 6.97%
Bronzor 78 6.79%
Aerodactyl 76 6.62%
Vanilluxe 72 6.27%
Braviary 71 6.18%
Venusaur 70 6.10%
Kangaskhan 69 6.01%
Golurk 69 6.01%
Hitmontop 64 5.57%
Scyther 60 5.23%
Slowking 60 5.23%
Dusknoir 58 5.05%
Archeops 56 4.88%
Bibarel 56 4.88%
Cryogonal 56 4.88%
Ludicolo 53 4.62%
Klinklang 50 4.36%
Altaria 49 4.27%
Golem 48 4.18%
Froslass 46 4.01%
Escavalier 43 3.75%
Nidoqueen 42 3.66%
Accelgor 40 3.48%
Feraligatr 40 3.48%
Claydol 40 3.48%
Probopass 39 3.40%
Raichu 39 3.40%
Weezing 36 3.14%
Sneasel 35 3.05%
Nidoking 32 2.79%
Whimsicott 31 2.70%
Lapras 31 2.70%
Tauros 31 2.70%
Serperior 30 2.61%
Throh 29 2.53%
Magmortar 29 2.53%
Pikachu 28 2.44%
Poliwrath 26 2.26%
Samurott 26 2.26%
Aggron 25 2.18%
Miltank 25 2.18%
Sawk 24 2.09%
Hariyama 22 1.92%
Munchlax 22 1.92%
Ferroseed 21 1.83%
Blaziken 20 1.74%
Lickilicky 20 1.74%
Ursaring 19 1.66%
Ampharos 19 1.66%
Hitmonlee 19 1.66%
Quagsire 19 1.66%
Exeggutor 14 1.22%
Roselia 14 1.22%
Dodrio 14 1.22%
Scolipede 13 1.13%
Carracosta 13 1.13%
Muk 12 1.05%
Floatzel 12 1.05%
Slaking 12 1.05%
Metang 12 1.05%

Doubles:

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All Teams Total Pokemon Total Teams
  3132 522
Pokemon Raw Usage Percentage
Hitmontop 178 34.10%
Togekiss 168 32.18%
Tyranitar 110 21.07%
Metagross 107 20.50%
Hydreigon 100 19.16%
Kingdra 97 18.58%
Salamence 96 18.39%
Garchomp 93 17.82%
Ferrothorn 88 16.86%
Pelipper 87 16.67%
Gengar 83 15.90%
Reuniclus 70 13.41%
Conkeldurr 69 13.22%
Milotic 69 13.22%
Gyarados 68 13.03%
Chandelure 66 12.64%
Excadrill 63 12.07%
Scizor 58 11.11%
Gastrodon 57 10.92%
Volcarona 55 10.54%
Porygon2 54 10.34%
Rotom(Wash) 50 9.58%
Amoonguss 48 9.20%
Arcanine 43 8.24%
Hariyama 41 7.85%
Jolteon 41 7.85%
Ludicolo 39 7.47%
Blastoise 37 7.09%
Manectric 32 6.13%
Whimsicott 29 5.56%
Snorlax 28 5.36%
Torkoal 28 5.36%
Rotom(Heat) 24 4.60%
Swampert 22 4.21%
Bronzong 20 3.83%
Gallade 20 3.83%
Blissey 19 3.64%
Staraptor 19 3.64%
Dragonite 18 3.45%
Mienshao 18 3.45%
Alakazam 17 3.26%
Cofagrigus 17 3.26%
Krookodile 17 3.26%
Abomasnow 16 3.07%
Gigalith 16 3.07%
Jellicent 16 3.07%
Magnezone 16 3.07%
Tentacruel 16 3.07%
Breloom 15 2.87%
Eelektross 15 2.87%
Gliscor 15 2.87%
Haxorus 15 2.87%
Kabutops 14 2.68%
Bisharp 13 2.49%
Golduck 13 2.49%
Rampardos 13 2.49%
Dusclops 12 2.30%
Lilligant 12 2.30%
Lucario 12 2.30%
Zoroark 11 2.11%
Aerodactyl 10 1.92%
Electabuzz 10 1.92%
Spiritomb 10 1.92%
Toxicroak 10 1.92%
Azumarill 9 1.72%
Clefable 9 1.72%
Cloyster 9 1.72%
Infernape 9 1.72%
Skarmory 9 1.72%
Ampharos 8 1.53%
Crobat 8 1.53%
Lanturn 8 1.53%
Marowak 8 1.53%
Swellow 8 1.53%
Vaporeon 8 1.53%
Chansey 7 1.34%
Darmanitan 7 1.34%
Hippowdon 7 1.34%
Mamoswine 7 1.34%
Mandibuzz 7 1.34%
Raichu 7 1.34%
Slowking 7 1.34%
Typhlosion 7 1.34%
Dugtrio 6 1.15%
Kangaskhan 6 1.15%
Rhyperior 6 1.15%
Starmie 6 1.15%

 

With this many movements its very possible I missed something, please let me know if you find something.

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7 minutes ago, Tawla said:

First of all, roserade UU or OU or delete it, it was the most stupid UU-->NU ever

It will probably take months till it happens. Right now only a few use people use it and it isnt used it OU at all.

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3 minutes ago, Kaitha said:

Nice to see castform is still OU

Its not though, it never was, thats a visual dex bug only.

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Bronzor was cool against Roserade too, but are we forced to play Mantine or bronzor in every game just to counter roserade ? Roserade should be ban and its a shame to see People trying to defend it. 

5 minutes ago, gbwead said:

Mantine looks pretty cool against Roserade.

 

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7 minutes ago, gbwead said:

Mantine looks pretty cool against Roserade.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mantine: 70-84 (36.4 - 43.7%) -- 37.5% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

 

meh. Roserade is really annoying tbh, having to run like Mantine+Bronzor to deal with that shit is not ok

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15 minutes ago, DemonBone said:

It will probably take months till it happens. Right now only a few use people use it and it isnt used it OU at all.

i've seen some guys using it in OU cuz it's the best counter for the Uber milotic

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This looks insane. I don't think the new mons make Haxorus acceptable tho. Spiritomb kinda helps with P-Z I guess but I still think the powerlevel of P-Z is too high for UU. Keep BLs to BLs

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UU now has 3 viable ice shard users (Abomasnow, Weavile, Mamoswine), Forretress, Mandibuzz, CB Dugtrio, Sucker Punchers, etc. Think Haxorus is fine, weak to every form of hazards too.

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Maybe not important I was just curious given Garchomps addition to the game, but Sandstream ability users saw an overall 2.92% drop in usage from pre-chomp to now.  Most of that loss coming from TTar, the other two rose, very very slightly.

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I want Roserade gone too lmao, but nothing can be done until the NU reset. I'm just trying to be optimistic while we are waiting...

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1 minute ago, Leviatharian said:

Will the next big tier change Happen next month already?

I will be looking to deploy the changes Friday or Saturday depending on various things.

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Just now, Munya said:

I will be looking to deploy the changes Friday or Saturday depending on various things.

I meant uu to nu for wormadame, etc.

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1. Encore was banned for a good period of the month and i think wobbu should stay to OU because of it.

2. Arguments can be made for BL pokemons but since there is like 10/15 pokemons dropping i believe we should let those settle first and then open the discussion about them.

3. I will never understand how blastoise ended up in UU were eelektross took over the meta while Zoro which is such an offensive threat ended all the way down

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3 minutes ago, Munya said:

I will be looking to deploy the changes Friday or Saturday depending on various things.

So right before TT?

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