RIchardZheng Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Hydreigon w/life orb (252 special attack, 252 speed) Focus blast Fire blast Dragon pulse Taunt Lucario w/life orb (252 attack, 252 speed) Swords dance Extreme speed Close combat Shadow claw Pelipper w/ damp rock (252 HP, 212 defense and 40 special defense) Hurricane Roost U-Turn Scald Tentacruel w/black sludge (252 HP, 252 special defense) Scald Toxic spikes Protect Rapid Spin Kingdra w/life orb (252 special attack, 252 speed) Draco meteor Hydro pump Surf Ice beam Magnezone w/light clay (252 special attack, 48 speed, 208 HP) Thunder Hidden power fire Light screen Reflect Let me know if you see any potential problems! Thanks in advance! Link to comment
Etozuri Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Your teams offense looks nice and solid and the Magnezone set looks really cool with dual screens. But a problem I have with your team is that you have nothing to Phaze with encase a setup mon gets out of hand. The best bet you have is to taunt with Hydreigon but by that point it could already be too late so if you could sneak a move like roar or whirlwind on that could be cool. RIchardZheng 1 Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Etozuri said: Your teams offense looks nice and solid and the Magnezone set looks really cool with dual screens. But a problem I have with your team is that you have nothing to Phaze with encase a setup mon gets out of hand. The best bet you have is to taunt with Hydreigon but by that point it could already be too late so if you could sneak a move like roar or whirlwind on that could be cool. Nice catch! I've never had a crazy boost stacked pokemon fight me before (like triple swords dance scizor or something) but I thought I would be fine with toxic spikes or maybe the move toxic and just stall until they are forced to swap away. If I have trouble with boosts, I might consider roar. Thanks for the advice! Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Etozuri said: Your teams offense looks nice and solid and the Magnezone set looks really cool with dual screens. But a problem I have with your team is that you have nothing to Phaze with encase a setup mon gets out of hand. The best bet you have is to taunt with Hydreigon but by that point it could already be too late so if you could sneak a move like roar or whirlwind on that could be cool. So, funny story. I literally just came upon the situation that you described. Their team: Volcarona, Torkoal, Gengar, Tyranitar, Ferrothorn and some other pokemon that I can't remember Turn 1 I lose my Pelipper to a Gengar as I forgot that some carry thunderbolt so my best fire counters were dead. Then out comes volcarona onto my Lucario and it sets up not 1, not 2, but 3 quiver dances as swap into tentacruel and burn it, then it kills my tentacruel. So I have a 3x quiver danced Volcarona at half health and my water pokemon are all toast (did I mention the sun was up?) with no boosted water moves and no rocks at all. So I thought I was all dead and gone, but a combination of me swapping in and out of attacks that I could resist, I sacrificed then used priority extreme speed on Lucario to knock it out. Still terrifying to have a boosted sweeper. Had it been anything with even a bit of bulk (like say dragon dance Salamance), I would have lost. So looks like your advice was good and I might swap skarmory for tentacruel so I have a sturdy roar phazer just in case, also stealth rocks Etozuri 1 Link to comment
Etozuri Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, RIchardZheng said: So, funny story. I literally just came upon the situation that you described. Their team: Volcarona, Torkoal, Gengar, Tyranitar, Ferrothorn and some other pokemon that I can't remember Turn 1 I lose my Pelipper to a Gengar as I forgot that some carry thunderbolt so my best fire counters were dead. Then out comes volcarona onto my Lucario and it sets up not 1, not 2, but 3 quiver dances as swap into tentacruel and burn it, then it kills my tentacruel. So I have a 3x quiver danced Volcarona at half health and my water pokemon are all toast (did I mention the sun was up?) with no boosted water moves and no rocks at all. So I thought I was all dead and gone, but a combination of me swapping in and out of attacks that I could resist, I sacrificed then used priority extreme speed on Lucario to knock it out. Still terrifying to have a boosted sweeper. Had it been anything with even a bit of bulk (like say dragon dance Salamance), I would have lost. So looks like your advice was good and I might swap skarmory for tentacruel so I have a sturdy roar phazer just in case, also stealth rocks Ahh yes, Volcarona is a nasty threat! Good thing you had priority on Lucario (; ^ω^). You should do some testing but, you could fit haze onto Tentacruel (replace protect maybe) and that would work if you wanted keep T spikes and a spinner. Also I don't recommend but Lucario can learn roar :D RIchardZheng 1 Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Etozuri said: Ahh yes, Volcarona is a nasty threat! Good thing you had priority on Lucario (; ^ω^). You should do some testing but, you could fit haze onto Tentacruel (replace protect maybe) and that would work if you wanted keep T spikes and a spinner. Also I don't recommend but Lucario can learn roar :D I am having problems with Lucario at the moment. he is just soooo fragile that I can never swap it into a move then get a kill with it. The only times I found it to work are to swords dance on a swap out then either use the raw power to deal with slower targets, or shadow claw to deal with ghosts that people will swap in. Or use priority to deal with anything too fast but should be fragile. But Lucario is just soooo weak that I will swap out for conkeldurr as soon as I can afford it. I also think my EVs can use a little bit of tweaking as Tentacruel gets rekt by so many physical moves and scald never seems to burn (like 1/8 in a row will burn) Link to comment
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