Gothitelle v. Persian

[BoltBlades12]

I've felt this question falls within the grey area between Comp and General Discussion. But since we're talking about levels/Nature/IVs/EVs, I figured it'd be more suitable here.

 

So here's the deal:

For Amulet Coin hunting, I use a Gothitelle:

- lvl 43

- Timid Nature

- 31 IVs in Speed and HP

- 252 EVs in Speed and HP

 

However, the problem is, even with that set, I am not guaranteed to be able to run from every Persian horde, notably the ones w/o Amulet Coin Meowths(even if it were lvl 35 Persians with 31 IV in Speed and Speed-benefiting nature)

To put it simple, even with level and speed advantage, I'm not guaranteed a successful escape.

 

So my question is this, what level must my Gothitelle be in order for the escapes to be 100% guaranteed? Because at the same time, I don't want its already minuscule Attack stat to barely be high enough to start OHKO'ing Meowths, because we all know how Thief works.

[xRdZiiiN]

u just need to check the highest lvl persian there , then put the most possible outcome for him to have max speed possible,  like speed+ nature + 31 iv , then use a site , i usually use psypoke to calculate this things, then u gonna need ur Gothitelle to be faster than that.

 

i hope this help u , a bit.

Edited August 16, 2019 by xRdZiiiN

[Matoka]

I recommend Banette instead, it has 100% chance to flee at any level due to being ghost type and can learn Thief.
For lower levels you can also use Shuppet, ofc. I don't think it's attack stat is so high you are guaranteed to OHKO meowth either.


Edit: This would definitely belong in General discussion, Competitive Assistance is for PvP related things, farming items is 100% PvE and should have been posted in general discussion. If you wish I can move your thread there for you.

[hannahtaylor]

16 minutes ago, Matoka said:

I recommend Banette instead, it has 100% chance to flee at any level due to being ghost type and can learn Thief.
For lower levels you can also use Shuppet, ofc. I don't think it's attack stat is so high you are guaranteed to OHKO meowth either.


Edit: This would definitely belong in General discussion, Competitive Assistance is for PvP related things, farming items is 100% PvE and should have been posted in general discussion. If you wish I can move your thread there for you.

Bannette also has the ability frisk, so you can tell if the Mewoth is holding an item or not

[BoltBlades12]

17 minutes ago, Matoka said:

I recommend Banette instead, it has 100% chance to flee at any level due to being ghost type and can learn Thief.
For lower levels you can also use Shuppet, ofc. I don't think it's attack stat is so high you are guaranteed to OHKO meowth either.

Though from my experience, I found that gothitelle’s attack is so low, not even a crit would ko. And shuppet’s attack is actually higher than gothitelle’s. Because you also have to account the possibility of crits.

 

17 minutes ago, Matoka said:

Edit: This would definitely belong in General discussion, Competitive Assistance is for PvP related things, farming items is 100% PvE and should have been posted in general discussion. If you wish I can move your thread there for you.

Go ahead. I didn’t know where to put this thread on. It was 50/50 imo.

Edited August 16, 2019 by BoltBlades12

[ThePrettyPetard]

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